LoveFilmNoir
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This thread is so amusing.
I am proud of this board. People being able to agree to disagree without any personal attacks! I remember when I was accused of "baiting" when I started an "unpopular opinions" thread but a year plus later this thread has several pages of unpopular, popular, and hilarious opinions.
I keeked every time I saw June Allyson mentioned. That voice is something else, isn't it?
Peter Sellers still doesn't do it for me. I don't know what it is about that guy but I am never amused. One movie I can stomach him in is "After The Fox" and that's only because Victor Mature (whom I love, and many others loathe LOL) and Marty Balsam are in it. I guess his humor goes over my head. Lolita and the Pink Panther films I can sit through because of their supporting casts - but sitting through them even then is RARE.
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Gordon Jackson was in SCROOGE with Albert Finney
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Farley Granger
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Voranis, I think that does have a major part to do with it and it is unfortunate if a 1:08 memorial clip can't be made because of the cost of about 5-15 seconds of a half dozen films.
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Well said lz. I don't understand why Alec isn't allowed to have an opinion without being labeled as jealous, unknowledgeable, or his opinion being related to his views on politics.
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clore is right, they did, but it felt like they did for no more than 3 days, whereas I saw Liz's for more than 7 days. While sad, I actually enjoy seeing the TCM Remembers spots. I think applaud whoever puts them together so quickly, and the clips they use, how they use them and the editing. The only thing I hate about them is knowing the person in them is no longer with us. Seeing the Sidney Lumet one, I saw a few actors in the clips who are still with us, I don't look forward to seeing one dedicated to them.
Off topic, but I am still curious to know what the rules are in determining what recently deceased actor/director etc gets a TCM Remembers spot. I ask this because I was surprised Gloria Stuart didn't get one and she lived to be 100.
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fxreyman, very well said. I don't think I could have said it any better. I completely agree with your theory regarding the marketing of films via DVD sales. I remember in 2007 I saw a whole front aisle case of Al Pacino films in a store and sometime that month his AFI tribute was taped/shown on TV.
I could imagine several actors of the "golden era" on your list (that list blew me away, btw) even refusing to be apart of the tribute if asked sometime in the 80s. By then they were "older", not themselves, and not necessarily wanting to be bothered. When I think of someone honoring an actor of the golden era today, most of the audience has never worked with them and is hardly familiar with their work.
I also think that there is a possibility that some were approached by the AFI and for the reasons you listed refused to do the tribute. I don't think some people genuinely would approve of being some marketing/ratings pawn by the AFI even if their career is celebrated for the night.
Topics like this make me happy that I have TCM and these message boards. Many actors and actresses I admired never won Academy Awards or were recognized by their body of work but on these boards they are recognized and praised regularly. At the end of the day, I think this is what they would have wanted rather than have a statue in a museum somewhere.
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I agree MissWonderly. At the end of the day it all comes down to people subconsciously refusing to accept a person having an opinion other than their own. I see it all the time on these boards. A thread can be started asking people to name actors or films they don't like and the first few replies will be a person writing a dissertation to the OP on why the films or actors listed are great, instead of contributing names and titles who they don't really care for.
I didn't see AB's comments but I can't imagine him being disgusting or trashing Natalie Wood. I have seen him disagree with RO and even not care for a movie and maturely express why. I think a fellow actor has the right not to like, admire or gush over the work of a fellow actor whether living or dead. I don't even believe that most of the stars we see in new releases are familiar with many of the actors and actresses we casually discuss here and are so familiar with. If AB is going to be replaced with a puppet that goes to Wikipedia and reads about the films, watches it, and then gushes about the film on camera then I want no parts.
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> {quote:title=myidolspencer wrote:}{quote}
> Again, 0'Toole gets "SNUBBED!?" Freeman's a powerful actor, but others are still around that deserve it before him, most notably Peter 0'Toole, S. MacLaine, Hopkins, Duvall,etc
Ridiculous.
I am really hoping that this is only because Mr. O'Toole has declined to be a recipient. AFI will only salute an actor that agrees to be present. Tributes and award shows have gone down significantly over the years. Thank goodness for clips on Youtube! Sad because with each year you see people pass on who have worked with O'Toole in his earlier years in Hollywood - I don't think Anne Hathaway would have any business speaking at his ceremony (eye roll). I never seen a strong actor so openly snubbed by Hollywood in the history of Hollywood! My comments aren't meant to snub the work of Morgan Freeman AT ALL, I believe he is a great actor.
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Well a few things. One, if AB did say that then I could understand RO having that reaction since I remember he had very fond memories of getting an interview with Natalie very early in his career when he wasn't the polished RO we love today. Two, I don't expect AB and RO to gush over every film, every performance and every actor when they discuss the essentials. I actually have heard both AB and RO not be too enthusiastic about a film or performance but not enough to make a first time viewer change the channel. I think this is what makes their chemistry genuine and why he has done the Essentials back to back. Thirds, AB is entitled to his opinion like all of us.
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Angela Lansbury, Peter O'Toole, and Lauren Bacall
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> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote}
> That's what TCM is all about! (Dead People) LOL. Thanks to celluloid, they dont stay dead (to us)....
Very good point. And I understand your frustration when they don't show a TCM Remembers for some stars. I still wonder why one for Gloria Stuart was never shown. Just seeing the dates of her death and her birth would have been worth it. I don't know who makes the final call to not create one. I know it has something to do with rights, but clips from trailers can't even be used?
I know Liz Taylor's used a clip from Cleopatra, a Fox film one that they ran for 24 hours this past Sunday.
The good thing is that at least these actors who have passed will most likely get SUTS days.
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I have been so busy the last few days that I for the first time was able to sit down and catch up with what's on my DVR. While I do like the melancholy music that plays for the TCM Remembers piece, it always makes me sad. When I finished watching my recording of "Crime Doctor's Manhunt" just now I thought they were showing the one for Liz Taylor. Lo and behold I see that boyish good looking face of Farley's and I screamed! I had no idea he passed....and I was just watching an episode he guest starred in from the "Ellery Queen" box set (highly recommended by the way). Ugh, I am so sad. One of the joys I would get from watching TCM sometimes would be being able to say that someone who starred or costarred in a great film from many decades ago was still alive. I guess my own selfishness as a fan makes me never want to see a TCM Remembers for some actors and actresses (and in good taste I won't even say names. RIP Farley Granger.
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> {quote:title=vallo13 wrote:}{quote}
> "Headlights" Written & Performed by Sofie Hunger was the 2010 remembrance.
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> or this :http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/index.jsp?cid=378708
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> vallo
Vallo, he means the song that plays in the clip. I have always wondered where that tune originated, I have never seen an explanation for it on these boards. It has a melancholy feel to it, but I do like it nonetheless.
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Well Kinokima, considering that she is in charge of her father's estate and for the most part has been quite involved and helpful with any documentaries, books, etc of her father's work, I think it would be interesting to see her in an interview on TCM.
Often times on these boards whenever we talk about a film we haven't seen in a long time there are legal issues and sometimes those legal issues can go back to the estate of one of the lead actors. I like hearing that the family of actors are just as involved in keeping their relative's work appreciated by the public as a station like TCM. I remember in the film noir short in between films, Eddie Mueller revealed that the Film Noir Foundation restored the film "Cry Danger" from Dick Powell's personal 16 mm copy.
I think an interview with Pat will be very insightful.....maybe Fred Astaire's last wife may learn a thing or two.
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Mark, I am groovin over here too! I look forward to your breakdown of the schedule vs the normal "the new schedule has been posted" threads. You really highlight just how awesome the programming is on this channel!
Don't forget that I credit you with helping me to fully jump in to precodes with both feet! Before that, I was only really interested in early Stanwyck and Loy!
I am glad Jean Harlow is star of the month so I can really get into her films to fully understand what the fuss is about. In the few I have seen her in, I liked her so I look forward to it.
Claire Trevor is a noir dame, so of course I'll be enjoying her day.
I am working on becoming a Bogie completist so I'm happy to see some of his rare earlier flicks on the schedule!
Anyway, like usual, my DVR will be working in overtime. Keep these threads up Mark, with all of the TCM criticism, it's good to see someone pointing out the abundance of goodies!
(this month has quite a bit of films made before 1940 and I hope it can be referenced in the future when people join the boards to complain!)
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> {quote:title=cee wrote:}{quote}
> i watched strangers on a train last night on the free tcm on demand channel & was once again delighted by her rare presence in the movies. a well-played character, great lines, fun. in checking imdb, i see she was also in stage fright, which i still haven't seen. of course, there's her amusing turn in psycho. i also admire her role in supporting her father's legacy. she's an author, too. i just am glad to know she's out there.
Have you watched her in the episodes of "Alfred Hitchcock Presents"? She is quite enjoyable. Seasons 1-4 are available to watch on hulu.com. I believe you can look them up under her imdb credits and a link to the video will be on the page of the episode, if available.
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sounds like he had a normal accent to me.
And the actors you mentioned spoke better than the actors of today. Some had voice/diction lessons, while others just had a decent enough public or private education to learn how to speak normal English. Having heard quite a few of them in interviews - Bogart, Price, Davis, Cagney - I think the young stars of today could learn a thing or two!
I think Cary Grant has the most unique accent of all time. I absolutely love it. I find his cockney accent to be hilarious too.
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I think I am still confused with the general idea of what an "epic" film is.
Honestly, I always thought they were about 2.5 hours or more and were based on historical events. Most epics seem to be biblical, but I thought Gone With The Wind may have been the exception because of how much it is celebrated (to be such a lengthy film).
If Cinemascope and the screens like it and the film covering a long period of time are part of the definition, then I guess that will change things.
What is a biblical film vs a biblical epic. Is The Robe simply just a biblical film?
And what do we call films like *The Inn of the Sixth Happiness*, *The Best Years of Our Lives*, *All This, And Heaven Too,* *Mutiny on the Bounty* (1962), *Ryan's Daughter* and other films I have seen on TCM that have run times over 2 hours?
Anyway, this is a good topic.
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I'm a sucker for the Biblical epics and find myself watching them Christmas Day when I go home to my folks' house for the holidays.
I don't know if it is the story, the visual experience or Peter O'Toole that makes "Lawrence or Arabia" so interesting to me.
I do know the chariot race is what interests me the most in "Ben Hur"
I can watch "Gone With the Wind" at least once a year, and usually in inclement weather. Just an overall entertaining film.
Some films are longer than 2.5 hours but not really considered "epics" and I have watched them. One being Brando's "Mutiny on the Bounty" I actually like this film.
I admit I can't seem to sit still and get into "Dr Zhivago" the same goes for "Ghandi". Maybe one day....
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Well tell us how you really feel! LOL
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Tom Brady and Ralph Meeker.
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He probably just misspoke. When some of these classic stars do interviews with him they sometimes misspeak dates, titles or people and he has a great way of correcting them without steering the interview or causing them to lose their train of thought. I know I have seen this in a Private Screenings or two. The guy isn't 17 years old, it's life.
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> {quote:title=PrinceSaliano wrote:}{quote}
> How is everyone missing the irony?
I'm slapping my knee as I hee-haw at the irony in this thread. By all means everyone, please do carry on!
Back from TCM The Birds with Tippi!
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Thanks for sharing. Wow, she looks great. Almost like she could be sisters with her daughter Melanie!
I don't care how many times I hear Alfred Hitchcock explain the special effects used to get those birds on the screen with the people, those scenes absolutely freak me out. Anytime I see a flock of birds of 20 or more I go in the other direction, they always seem suspicious - particularly near elementary schools!