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> {quote:title=HarryLong wrote:}{quote} > I wish I knew. > I, too saw it on TV back in the 1990s sometime. > As I'm an Ulmer completeist, I'd love to get my hands on it. > TCM didn't show it a few years back when they did their Ulmer salute & I don't know of any gray market dealers who have it. > If you find it anywhere, let the rest of us (well, me, anywaw) know. I have heard of this film but never seen it. I figured all if not most of Ulmer's work was easy to find because it was produced under PRC and probably even slipped into public domain. I do remember reading a blog some years ago that said that the film's music might be behind it's being rare to find but the blogger wasn't too sure and had some amusing tales at his efforts in trying to get his hands on this film. I guess it's time to start a campaign to get TCM to air it again!

I think Fred MacMurray was a major star, he just didn't really have the "ego" with him to negotatiate top billing vs. negotiating pay. From what I read of him, he was a shrewd businessman that was pretty well off while he was still acting. It is my belief that there are some actors who were happy to make the picture, whether they were first, second or third billed and Fred was one of them. I mentioned Dan Dailey earlier in this thread. I think this guy is so forgotten and it's sad. I love watching the film CHICKEN EVERY SUNDAY. This talk about Fred MacMurray reminds me that Dan Dailey could have starred in a show based off of that movie.

Herbert Marshall was in THE RAZOR'S EDGE with Clifton Webb

Lavenderblue, that was not it. The show I was talking about was "The Golden Girls" and Debbie Reynolda guest starred as a new roommate when Dorothy was supposed to be getting remarried to Stan and moving out in one of the last seasons.

> {quote:title=lzcutter wrote:}{quote} > It's called *Murder, He Says* with Fred MacMurray and Marjorie Main. > > It's on TCM Thursday evening at 10 pm (EST) > > http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title.jsp?stid=84159 Now Lz, how amazing is that??? I can't wait to see this film and see what all the enthusiasm is about both on this site and many others!

I'd be all for a Linda Darnell birthday tribute! I wish Fox Movie Channel did this. Maybe I'll email them this suggestion. I'd also be for an Angela Lansbury birthday tribute. Love that gal!

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > Yesterday, I was at my gym (where they still DO have FMC), and Rex Harrison was competing with himself. He was in STAIRCASE on FMC, and THE HONEY POT on TCM, at the same time. First time I can recall something like this. Isn't STAIRCASE such a "what the $%@&?" film? Burton and Harrison are a hoot. I missed THE HONEY POT but I did want to say that I have seen Richard Widmark competing with himself one Sunday. TCM had him in a western and FMC had him running from Commies and then trying to seduce a nutty Marilyn Monroe.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > I don't believe Cyd was in any noirs other than TENSION. TWO WEEKS IN ANOTHER TOWN had some noirish elements. Nicholas Ray's *Party Girl* is definitely a noir. Albeit late in the classic noir period, and shot in Technicolor and Cinemascope, it is a noir. Misswonderly, they last showed it when Rob Taylor was SOTM. Good film. Cyd dances two numbers and is stunning as always. Lee J. Cobb plays a mobster...but who's surprised?

> {quote:title=ValentineXavier wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=markbeckuaf wrote:}{quote} > > Both of these series scream BOX SET to me! > > I've seen the Falcon films so many times, and they play regularly, so I hadn't planned on recording them. But, then I guess I heard that scream... I will put the 8 films on 4 DVDs, and put those DVDs in a case that holds 4 DVDs, so I'll have my own boxed set! Good idea! I'm recording them all and thought I should probably create my own box set. They are short enough to maybe even fit 3 films to a DVD without altering the picture or sound quality. I

Misswonderly, I am jealous of your gifts! Okay, such a dork I am but a film noir box set or book is tops for me. Bless my significant other's heart, he purchased my entire Fox Film Noir collection, two Tyrone Power box sets and several others joking that regular women like diamonds and other shiny trinkets. I am waiting for that set to go down in price a bit before I buy but thanks to TCM, I have recorded 4 of those films but watched maybe six. I don't know why, but I deleted *Armored Car Robbery* and *Dial 1119* from my DVR prematurely. Both deserved a second viewing. At this point, I am so biased that all of those film noir box sets are worth it. I should also mention that TCM played a majority of them right before that set came out and when the set was getting advertised heavily between movies. It's almost like they give you a sneak preview before you buy them. The same with the Errol Flynn collection now. On his SUTS day, they played every film from that box set. I only wish I could see at least one Charlie Chan film before deciding to splurge. FYI: MGM Film Noir *Kansas City Confidential* on sale for $3.98 (I own this already, print is CRISP!) http://www.amazon.com/Kansas-City-Confidential-Film-Noir/dp/B000PMFRVK/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1286890925&sr=1-1

lz, I think you hit the nail on the head. I didn't expect or want for this thread to bash any actor of any period (I hate that Wayne ALWAYS gets singled out when military service is discussed!!!). I see now that this is a touchy subject and no matter how softly you walk, you're still walking on egg shells.

> {quote:title=ValentineXavier wrote:}{quote} > > I'd say not so! I have two 250GB DVRs, and one 160GB DVDR (DVD recorder.) If you don't want to make DVDs, having just a DVR is fine. But, if you do want to make DVDs, having a DVR to feed your DVDR is very useful, especially if you want to record things from premium channels, digital channels, more than one thing at a time, watch one thing, while recording another... I set up movies to transfer from the DVR to the DVDR when I go to bed, or go to work, or just out for a while. When I come back, the movie is on the DVDR, ready to edit, and burn to disc. Looks like I'll be on the hunt for a second unit with a hard drive for the other room. FredC, I agree about image quality of some of these restored classics. Some are actually cleaner than 70s and 80s films.

> {quote:title=danthemoviefan wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=MovieFanLaura wrote:}{quote} > > A title I have calendared for mid-October is MOTHER DIDN'T TELL ME with Dorothy McGuire and William Lundigan. > > That's coming up at 6 a.m. ET tomorrow (Tuesday, Oct. 12). I have this all set to record!

FredC, I say go with ValentineXavier's advice just do your research on which models may give you trouble with copyright protection. I actually record to my DirecTV DVR and then I record from DVR to DVD Recorder as I watch the films. I have a tunerless recorder, and this way is also somewhat time consuming but with the rare titles, I get to come home from work and record them for my personal library while I watch it and when the recording is done, I can archive the DVD. From what I was told, having a DVR and a DVD recorder with a hard drive is pointless.

Fred, don't you find the taping from VHS to DVD to be unnecessary and time consuming? Doesn't it also affect video quality? I have a simple DVD recorder that will record anything. If this thing clunks out on me, I'm more likely going to get the same model because I have no desire to have a "newer" unit with the copy protection software. At $160 a month for cable I think I pay for the right to make private copies of films or TV for my own viewing outside of them being broadcast.

> {quote:title=cteddiesgirl wrote:}{quote} > Hmmm. I like to watch FMC sometimes. There are a few movies being shown on there that I would like to see. Unfortunately, the time's aren't always convienent for me and my dvr has too much on it now. And as of a couple month ago, I'm unable to record anything from this channel to a dvd to be able to watch at a later date. What is the model of your DVD Recorder? I use an older Toshiba model that came out before all the copyright protection chips started being built into the recorders. I can record ANYTHING from my satellite cable.

Yes, her court testimony is some of the best in movie history.

misswonderly, it definitely is a touchy subject and I had a conversation a while ago with a veteran who explained to me that some of the admiration his father had with many classic actors was that "they were just like him" in the sense that they fought for their country, came back home and started a family only they were acting on television and in films. I definitely think there is division in the "need" for war today vs in the late 30s and early 40s and I think that military service in this country is looked more as a "last option" for youth versus any form of patriotism. But again, I agree that the reasons are very complex and diverse. lz, I am aware of the entertainment being provided to troops today by celebrities which I think is a very commendable thing to do. However, I am wondering more about actually enlisting in the various branches of the military. You touched upon the subject of the coverage of these entertainers supporting the troops. It is so limited these days that it is rather sad. I wish local and world news would highlight this more.

Let me just put the disclaimer out there that this thread is by no means about undervaluing the accomplishments of anyone, it is simply just for discussion purposes.... I noticed that several male actors of the Golden Era went to school (some ivy league), fought in the war (mostly WWII) and went on to become famous actors and some even winning awards. Whenever I see actors profiled today, they usually went from high school to some drama school and then maybe doing summer stock or stage plays until they get their big break. I don't know of any current performer that has served in any war. I usually don't watch shows like "Access Hollywood" that put these stars on a pedestal because it is mostly nauseating, but isn't that where stars are nowadays - on a pedestal? During WWII, stars were leaving their careers behind to help with the war. I don't think I have read of anything like that happening recently. What are your thoughts on this? At what point did actors start being "just actors"? (again, I am not attacking those who have not served in the military)

I look forward to watching this film. I have read on this board and quite a few others about this films rareness yet how funny it is.

Van Johnson is nothing to call home about in my book and his films beyond the few that I mentioned don't really make me "hold the channel". When he's being emotional, it can come off as "overacting" at times. Edward Everett Horton is also a very unsung actor.

musicalnovelty, I rather enjoyed that one too although I got the feeling the interview wasn't recent.

> {quote:title=traceyk65 wrote:}{quote} > Thelma Ritter in just about anything. She even manages to sweep a few scenes out from under Bette Davis in All About Eve. > I respect Thelma so much because of her ability to steal the scene without having to overact and chew scenery. Any other actress performing her dialogue in her roles would fall under the radar. Una O'Connor also had away of stealing scenes. She was hilarious in *It All Came True* in the scenes in the kitchen when the night club had finally opened up.

I thought I watched a sitcom once where people were impressed that a guy was a doctor and then not so much when they learned he was a podiatrist. Ring any bells? Anyway, I think graduating from medical school no matter what concentration is amazing.

It involves a crime, but more conspiracy so that someone is set up to take a fall but no one is murdered.