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Actually Fred, I am in 100% support of any photographer that can capture the noirish image for a photo shoot. These days most "professional" pics are either of children and family or some type of Sports Illustrated wannabe pin up photos photographed and posed for by extreme amateurs. I think with this type of film noir photography, it really puts a photographer to test with capturing the best lighting, shadows and angles. I'd love to be photographed as a lounge singer in a smoky speak easy or as a femme fatale in the dingy, venetian blind windowed office of a P.I.!

cujas, well said! I feel the same way when I saw several golden age actors and actresses pop up on "Murder, She Wrote". Angela Lansbury at one point made Madlyn Rhue a reoccurring local character so she could get medical benefits.

Thanks for posting that. It's interesting (and sad for me!) that films that I wish were playing now so I could make a copy were once showing up somewhat regularly 5 years ago!

Thanks for that info Ray, it's a shame that film won't be seen. I don't know too much of Miller's work but I am sure he has at least one god-awful play that is still reprinted every few years and should probably be in a vault somewhere! Go figure.

Lonesomepolecat, I'm watching IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT as I write this and I definitely agree with you. Also I think when there is tension between to characters, it eventually builds up to attraction. It works because in reality, if we really didn't like someone, we wouldn't be exchanging quips, or offering to help them, even if we refuse to accept their "thank you". It definitely is a major formula of screwball comedy. Another film that immediately comes to mind is I WAS A MALE WAR BRIDE with Cary Grant and Ann Sheridan.

Mark, I have to thank you for coining the term "grooving" to refer to watching some of these films. When I think of my surprise of discovering a gem I didn't know before (FIVE STAR FINAL a few months back), or seeing something I could watch over and over again pop up on the schedule.....and then actually be in the comfort of my home watching, I think it definitely is a fair assessment to say that I am grooving! Well said MissW. As winter approaches and cold weather becomes my handicap, I find comfort in getting up on weekends, baking something yummy or having a hearty breakfast, and getting back into the bed. Then curling up for either a whole day of film noir, or splashy fluffy Fox Technicolor musicals - or a mix of both. Lately I noticed I been watching more films in pairs or threes by either director or actor. I can't wait to see the January schedule and get an idea of what TCM has in store for us to kick off 2011. (Lots of noir coming up to close out the year, so no complaints on what is already on the table!)

I too was surprised. The more and more I read up on Arthur Penn (beyond watching his films), the more I really like the guy. If I recall, Bob O introduced Penn's MICKEY ONE yesterday before it aired. I expected to see Ben M. since it was a Saturday, and instead, there was Bob - with great things to say about Mr. Penn. I remember 24 hours of Bob's intros for Paul Newman's tribute day. It really was touching.

MissW, it was definitely filmed in Hollywood with some footage shot in the Rockies of people vacationing, they showed in between scenes....but yep, definitely shot in Hollywood. That's another thing I liked about Fox musicals....all had some lovely settings but with the main stars always being involved in show business, they only really needed a backstage/dressing room, saloon or theater with a (rather large) stage and a few other sets. I still think it's ridiculous for SEVEN BRIDES to have an outdoor scene with fake flowers etc....it just looks terrible.

BLACK WIDOW got a lot of play for a while early 2009. It along with DAISY KENYON are the two noirs in the Fox Film Noir DVD series that aren't really noirs. However, I appreciate the great lavish sets and I actually like the whole backstage murder mystery. I liked seeing the whole cast although Gene Tierney looked so tired and useless (she was barely used though). It was interesting seeing Ginger playing such a b$%&! even though a few years earlier she already let us know she had that spark in ROXIE HART. Peggy Ann Garner playing a sinister adult with skeletons in her closet was a long way from A TREE GROWS IN BROOKLYN. I enjoyed the film for what it was....visually better than the actual script though. I know Fox was pretty darn proud of their Cinemascope process and this film is proof.

> {quote:title=SansFin wrote:}{quote} > According to my database *Ride the Pink Horse* (1947) last aired on TCM on May 9, 2005 and November 26, 2005. Some movies seem to have a six year cycle so perhaps it will air again soon. Thank you for this piece of info. What I would give to have access to TCM's entire broadcast history! I kind of wish they had broadcast dates of rare films on the film's info page. Anyway, I hope that noir as well as many other rare ones pop up on the schedule soon. And just to clarify, if a film is shown twice in a year and 5 years later it has yet to be shown again, I can say that's somewhat rare. I plan on researching all vaulted Fox film noirs and hounding them via email until they pop up sometime in 2011. My biggest project is to get THE BRASHER DOUBLOON on the schedule. I even suggested they play it back to back with SOMEWHERE IN THE NIGHT since actress Nancy Guild is the link.

I'd be more than happy to. I'm sure the following films cost just a laughable fraction of what many of the MGM musicals cost that are still widely celebrated today: MOTHER WORE TIGHTS, THAT NIGHT IN RIO, THE GANG'S ALL HERE, GREENWICH VILLAGE, SPRINGTIME IN THE ROCKIES, SOMETHING FOR THE BOYS, HELLO FRISCO HELLO, SWEET ROSIE O'GRADY, STATE FAIR (1945), and MOON OVER MIAMI. These films aren't as celebrated as the musicals mentioned in this thread....but I probably know the lyrics to at least one number from each and probably can't get the tune out of my head for at least a week after watching.

Please add me to the list of groovers! I been discovering some pretty good pre-codes over the years thanks to TCM. Even the ones I don't really care for, I watch because of the dialog....it's amazing what racy stuff was said, and how the Hays Code put that type of edginess on hold not to return to films until the late 50s (and that edginess in scripts was sooooo needed in noir!)

Seven Brides for Seven Brothers is one film I wouldn't give a hoot if it were shown pan and scan! I don't care for it. It was so cheaply made I expect the backdrop to topple over or move with the breeze from any fans on set. The film just looks so cheap ugh. This is actually what keeps me from keeping my caboose in the easy chair and giving this film a try. (Okay guys, I promise, next time I watch the entire film, obvious backdrop and all). Then again, I prefer the 90 minute no real plot, cute costumes, splashy Technicolor, catchy songs that Fox pumped out in the 40s.

> {quote:title=markfp2 wrote:}{quote} > The postal service rule has always been that a person must be dead for ten years before being considered for a postage stamp in the U.S. mark, I was going to post this unless the rule has changed. Although the OP reminded me that I should write to get Ty Power a stamp!

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > > > This one's fairly noirish, too, although apparently the photo was taken in 1974. Looks like it could be an imitation still from I WAKE UP SCREAMING or VICKI.

I have scoured film noir books and read several threads online about films that haven't been aired ever or rarely and did my research on them. All of the films I listed are available by private sellers online. Obviously, the print quality and the source of the copy is not known up front so that raises concern for me. I'm all for a jingle!

LOL! That was a good one wonderly! IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT IN RIO Claudette Colbert and Don Ameche star in this rom-com about a dizzy heiress looking for a good time and a Brazilian Baron ready to give it to her. The two agreed there would be no expectations and no disappoints. When Ellie Andrews woke up the next day, and was getting dressed, she noticed a fruit basket with a card that read "thanks for the memories"

absolutely noir looking. I definitely could see a bad guy chasing a not so bad guy and even some bullets being exchanged around this "s". It's visually delicious.

> {quote:title=misswonderly wrote:}{quote} > Is it just me, or does it have a slightly pornographic-sounding title? I'm just sayin'... > > LoveFilmNoir, I scrolled back and checked out your list. I was surprised at how many films on it I had not only never seen, but never even heard of. And here I thought I was a hard-core noir fan. > > *Dark Past*, with William Holden, I have seen. A bit disappointing; it's more one of those "hey, we've discovered psychological analysis" films than a true noir. I suspect it is based on a play - it feels like it, anyway. Still, it's interesting to see an early performance from William Holden, whom I like, and Nina Foch is in it (she of ("My Name is Julia Ross".) Misswonderly, your presence has been missed in these parts! Your absence was the equivalent to GILDA without the "Mame" routine!!! Yes, that title does sound rather R-rated and I'm sure if combined with HELLER IN PINK TIGHTS it can make a funny contribution to the 20th Century Vole thread! The only unfortunate thing about my list is that I have a feeling I will have to go "underground" to get those films and risking getting a bad quality print. Would be nice if quite a few of them show up in prime time on TCM next year though. One can only hope.

> {quote:title=CelluloidKid wrote:}{quote} > LOL..I hated _South Pacific_ (1958) The color in this film is ridiculous. I still can't believe the director did that thinking it would be helping the film. It looks like something that can onl ybe appreciated after dropping acid, doing shrooms or smoking a magical joint.

misswonderly, you didn't miss it, I made a post recently with a list of films I am destined to get my hands on and watch for 2010-2011. Most are not available on DVD and I have no idea if TCM plans to air any of them in the months to come. RIDE THE PINK HORSE is a Universal picture, which I am sure was probably last played on AMC. Many "private sellers" have the film although I am weary about the quality.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > I'm sure that when they come up with one for Tony Curtis, it will get extended play, and will probably bump any other that they might be running. Curtis' death may be the most significant (in terms of Hollywood history) since Newman's. You called it. He's getting a 24 hour marathon and I think Newman was the last one to get that treatment. I believe Bob O will also do intros for every movie. I think it goes beyond the "star" Tony was but I believe he was also a friend to TCM - I'm sure he would have returned to the film festival if he was still with us. Have you noticed on a TCM Remembers spot how much the last frame from the movie clips they show is so symbolic of death and/or saying goodbye? They always stand out to me....from Betty Hutton walking down a hallway with a huge doorway, to Jean Simmons blowing kisses and waving good bye, Paul Newman flings a cig ( I think) and walks back into the house and slams the screen door (from "Hud") and then seeing Tony Curtis running and reaching for Sidney Poitier's hand from THE DEFIANT ONES. They are so well done with both the music and clips. They serve their purpose.

> {quote:title=markfp2 wrote:}{quote} > > {quote:title=Jayo wrote:}{quote} > > Dear TCM: If it's at all possible, could you please include "The Perfect Furlough" in any tribute you plan for Tony Curtis. > > With a last minute tribute, TCM usually has to show films that are currently available to them and that they may have "on the shelf". I'd be surprised if they'd be able to work out a quick deal on films they don't already have the rights to. This is right. Everyone hates SOME LIKE IT HOT and now would be a great time to show it, but they can't. I believe premium cable has the broadcasting rights for now. They are giving him a 24 hour tribute (well deserved) on Sunday October 10th all times Eastern 6 a.m. Beachhead (1954) ? with Frank Lovejoy and Mary Murphy 7:45 a.m. Kings Go Forth (1958) ? with Frank Sinatra and Natalie Wood 9:45 a.m. The Vikings (1958) ? with Kirk Douglas, Ernest Borgnine and Janet Leigh 11:45 a.m. Operation Petticoat (1959) ? with Cary Grant and Dina Merrill 2 p.m. Who Was That Lady? (1960) ? with Janet Leigh and Dean Martin 4:15 p.m. Sex and the Single Girl (1964) ? with Natalie Wood, Lauren Bacall and Henry Fonda 6:15 p.m. You Can?t Win ?Em All (1970) ? with Charles Bronson and Mich?le Mercier 8 p.m. Sweet Smell of Success (1957) ? with Burt Lancaster and Martin Milner 9:45 p.m. The Defiant Ones (1958) ? with Sidney Poitier and Theodore Bikel 11:30 p.m. Trapeze (1956) ? with Burt Lancaster and Gina Lollobrigida 1:30 a.m. The Great Race (1965) ? with Jack Lemmon and Natalie Wood 4:15 a.m. Don?t Make Waves (1967) ?with Claudia Cardinale and Sharon Tate

I am all for the scheduling of a Tony Curtis tribute and I like the two suggestions made above. I would add WHO WAS THAT LADY? and TRAPEZE or HOUDINI to the tribute. I could say THE BOSTON STRANGLER but we all know it's a Fox film. Good call on THE LIST OF ADRIAN MESSENGER FredC, I have never seen that film before but have heard great things. Either way, I wouldn't mind a night of his films. Myfavoritefilms, I have been seeing SOME LIKE IT HOT making the HBO/Cinemax rounds so believe it or not, TCM may not even have the rights temporarily, I guess we will see, either way, I wouldn't mind them showing that and OPERATION PETTICOAT...he was a hoot in both. In another thread someone mentioned that Curtis is the biggest star to pass away since Paul Newman. If my memory serves me correctly, Paul Newman got a 24 hour tribute, a TCM Remembers spot that ran for over a week, and on the day of his tribute, Robert Osborne provided an intro to the films. We know that he flies to Atlanta and does all the intros but this time there was just a black background and he appeared to be sitting on a stool. It was the only time I seen something like that.

I'm not in front of my TV 24/7 but does TCM do a "TCM Remembers" for every star/director etc that recently passed or just a select few? I ask because during my bout with insomnia last night, I saw Arthur Penn's between every movie. However, I don't recall seeing one for Gloria Stuart or Kevin McCarthy. Also, I assumed the reason for not having one for Gloria Stuart is that they don't have much access to clips of her films. To this day, the Paul Newman one stands out to me the most and I think it ran more than 7 days. I also recall the ones for Jean Simmons, Lena Horne, Kathryn Grayson, Cyd Charisse, Jennifer Jones, Patricia Neal and Karl Malden (I may be forgetting a few) being aired for something like 4-5 days. I think the TCM Remembers spots - from the music, to the car in the rain, is one of the best I have ever seen of something like that on television ever, I hope they never change it.