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High five to September 13th.

I definitely respect that they have to do this because of bootlegging. I am sure many rare films being shown online have TCM's logo on it anyway! As far as someone collecting and recording for their personal home video library, I'll take the small, white tcm.com logo over the possibility of having Robert Osborne or Ben M. walk onto my screen like the characters on its sister stations (TNT and TBS) do...super distracting.

> {quote:title=patful wrote:}{quote} > Reported as a duplicate thread. Thank you. And in the future I'll use a sick day off work to contribute to a programming challenge.

> {quote:title=cujas wrote:}{quote} > The last time I saw Betsy was in a *Murder She Wrote* about 1985. She looked good and was good. I have the show on DVD. She was in two episodes I believe. One pretty early on in the series where her business partners had her being somewhat of a femme fatale to get information out of Jessica Fletcher's nephew even though he was the one getting info from her. She still looks good....

I ( and possibly others) do not comment in threads like "Post your top 50/100 films of all time" or the programming challenges because they are very complex threads and some of us like to read and post without too much time invested per post. Listing a theme of four films vs a month of programming is a huge difference. I don't think anyone contributing here will take away from another thread. If someone wants to put something here as well as in the next programming challenge, than they should be able to do that. Many threads on this site are like others, just like there can be 2-3 threads open about a particular topic or film at the same time. There are currently 2 Jacques Cousteau and 2 *Night Tide* threads going on. In Games and Trivia there are many "six degrees of separation" type games with varying yet very similar formats. A thread this simple shouldn't have to be so explained and dissected, *a mod can delete it so it doesn't take from the other one*. Some days this message board feels like dental work.

> {quote:title=patful wrote:}{quote} > *I don't know if this has been done before (I searched and couldn't find)...* - LFN > > You didn't look very hard. Ten threads down is the 16th Programming Challenge. I actually originally wrote (I think I "backspaced" a little too long at some point) that this was more of a programming challenge-lite or a diet programming challenge for those who do not want to deal with running times the films can play in etc. The programming challenge is way more complicated than this thread which simply is asking for four movies with a similar theme. But I thank you.

Liz Taylor was in THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN with Warren Beatty

> {quote:title=movieman1957 wrote:}{quote} > I might include "The Rockford Files." (After including "Murder, She Wrote" that opens up quite a few shows.) > > As a tough guy who would really rather avoid a fight and surrounding himself with friends from both sides of the law he manages to take all kinds of work. There are often good characters and good story lines. Of course there is the obligatory car chase but what show didn't have one. (Great cars too.) > > He is not together unlike the Phillip Marlowe character. Murder, She Wrote is some of the best weekly whodunit fluff a gal can ask for. I just recently started watching Rockford Files, as it shows up on the Retro network. I am considering purchasing the show on DVD. Like MSW, I enjoy the guest stars.

I don't know if this has been done before (I searched and couldn't find) but I thought it would be a little fun to play (and possibly wishful thinking that one or two may show up in the schedule in the near future). Select four films that fall under a theme (or even 4 films of a particular actor) - simple as that (if you want to do 6, that's fine too). If you are sure it is a TCM premiere, write (P) after the film. I'll start: AN EVENING OF JOHNNYS: *Johnny Apollo* (P) - Fox *Johnny Eager* *Johnny Angel* *Johnny O'Clock* *Johnny Dangerously* (P) - Fox. I threw this one in here since it is a spoof of films like the ones above. SAME CHARACTER, DIFFERENT ACTOR: PHILIP MARLOWE: *Lady in the Lake* *The Big Sleep* *Murder, My Sweet* *Marlowe (1969)* SAME CHARACTER, DIFFERENT ACTOR: WYATT EARP: *My Darling Clementine* *Gunfight at the OK Corral* *Frontier Marshall* *Cheyenne Autumn*

I believe many PRC and Poverty Row films are in the Public Domain. If you look them up on IMDB, there is usually a link to the full movie under the film pages "videos". I decided to watch these films this way instead of taking my chance on cheap boxsets sold online. The prints of *DOA*, *Detour* and *Whistle Stop* are actually pretty decent.

Natalie Wood was one of the best beards in Hollywood history....allegedly.

Rory Calhoun was in WITH A SONG IN MY HEART with David Wayne

Edward Everett Horton was in SPRINGTIME IN THE ROCKIES with Betty Grable

That's some big hair!

Alfred Hitchcock Presents has been mentioned here and I have a few thoughts on the series. I am actually about to order Season 1 on Amazon (on sale for $13.99) and I have watched several episodes from seasons 1-4 for free on Hulu.com...I am finding that the only thing that "dates" this show is Hitchcock's closing statement where he lets us know that the bad guy is caught. I do not listen to his endings most of the time because with some episodes, you already know the person is going to get caught, however with others, their plan was pretty clever and the last part of the scene shows them in a way where the viewer will assume they got away with the crime. Then Hitchcock comes on the screen and lets us know that the person was eventually caught. I know this happens with most crimes, but I figure I may be alone on this one, or maybe I just like the idea of bad guys getting away with crimes?

William Powell was in MANHATTAN MELODRAMA with Clark Gable

Thank you *moirafinnie6* for that list! I am going to do my research on those shows. Robert Stack, George C. Scott, John Cassavetes, Robert Taylor etc are all people who I definitely would have enjoyed on weekly television (though eerie, I enjoyed Stack's narration of Unsolved Mysteries )

> {quote:title=JefCostello wrote:}{quote} > *I hate to sound like a smartass, but it seems like every great film was based off some literary work.* > > The Godfather and Gone With the Wind would be the ones that I think of right away. Apocalypse Now was based off a novel as well. > > There's just so many to pick from. You hardly sound like one. My favorite part of the opening credits of films on TCM is seeing whose book the film was adapted from. It seems like most novelists of the early to mid 20th century were also screenwriters or would at least hope some actor, producer, or director read their book while on vacation and loved it enough to buy the rights.

Your mom must be a very attractive woman. Betty Hutton was so gorgeous in her prime. When you hear the audio to some of her performances you are almost expecting a Marjorie Main-type woman to be behind the vocals.

What you saw is one of the unfortunate cons about Wikipedia pages in that anyone can go in and edit. I have caught rather foolish comments/opinions in entries disguised as facts removed within 24 hours. Ann Prentiss may not be a popular wikipedia search and therefore it has not been caught and removed. (I believe you may even be able to go in and remove it)

thanks. I wondered why it showed up in my preview but now when I posted.

> {quote:title=johnbabe wrote:}{quote} > yes, i am a relatively new fan i am just tired of the newer movies creeping up on TCM really, i luv Natalie Wood, but *she is not a classic golden age person, star of the month, most of the films are ordinary and got 2 stars*........please remember we are classic movie lovers, and deserve quality, there is not enough Crawford, Davis, Stanwyck, Cary Grant, Jimmy Stewart, etc....do you get the drift? The bolded part is your opinion....which you are entitled to. However, programming is not going to be reorganized for you. There are some people who have been with TCM the whole 15 years and they may be outraged if Garbo was SOTM in this or even the next two years. Because of a busy schedule, I missed much of one of my favorites when they finally got their turn as SOTM - Joseph Cotten in 2008 so I can't campaign, I can just look out for his films on cable and record them, which is what I do. What is annoying is that these Garbo threads seem to pop up every day where you are blasting TCM's programming, putting down the careers of other stars (you just panned Natalie) etc. I want Don Ameche, Ty Power and Victor Mature to be SOTM but could you imagine a thread about that on these boards at least once a week? It gets tiresome. As a new fan, I suggest you head on over to Amazon and look into purchasing some of Garbo's films. Most you mention are available on DVD....that way you can watch them at 8pm instead of 8am.

I hope some of these are on DVD....because I know this is the only way I will get a chance to check them out. misswonderly, that show looks like it was a lot of fun. I like Karl Malden and I wonder if the show was filmed on location in SF. I think that was one of the reasons I enjoyed Monk .

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Yvonne de Carlo was in CRISS CROSS with Dan Duryea