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> {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote}
> I could never understand the appeal of Richard Beymer. This guy was making some big films in the 1950's and 1960's and I don't know how he got those parts. "The Diary of Anne Frank". "Hemingway's Adventures of a Young Man" "The Longest Day" and of course "West Side Story", even he walked out of the London premier of "Story" he though he was so bad. I don't know the man, never met him, probably very nice but, he was so miscast especially in "West Side Story". The reason I bought him up was I was just watching "Hail the Conquering Hero" { Great Film} and he came on afterwards along with cast members from "WSS" talking about Natalie Wood...
Richard Beymer "meh".
He's blah at best to me. In my world, he is best remembered as appearing on several different episodes of Murder She Wrote over the years (usually as a villain). He was in the episode "The Days Dwindle Down" which was supposed to be a continuation of the 1949 film "Strange Bargain". June Havoc and Henry Morgan and the rest of the surviving original cast were in this episode.
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> {quote:title=CelluloidKid wrote:}{quote}
> Why the thread about hate!?
This thread is not about hate IT IS ABOUT OPINION.
It's interesting the way a person can create a thread slamming a film made in the 80s or 90s or even in the last 5 years and everyone can chime in with their dislikes....yet it is unfathomable that some people may not have liked some films or actors from the "classic" era of Hollywood?
Many of these threads tend to simply gush over a star or film, I created this thread because I was interested in what films or stars from the silents through the 60s that some people don't enjoy. I'm sorry if you are reading some of these opinions as hate but please understand that is not intentions of this thread.
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> {quote:title=primosprimos wrote:}{quote}
> Didn't Mae West do an equally disturbing movie shortly before she died?
Mae West died in 1980 and she made 2 films in the last 10 years of her life. Both dreck.
Myra Breckinridge in 1970
Sextette in 1978
This was definitely her low and the worst way one could end a career/life.
However her high was She Done Him wrong or I'm No Angel
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So would I! And not necessarily at 4 and 6am either!!
I should also add that The Hitch-Hiker fits into the 1:15 time slot too.
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Another possible unpopular opinion:
Jennifer Jones and Monty Clift did not seem to have solid chemistry in Indiscretions of an American Wife. In the film she looks way more "The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit/Love is a Many Splendored Thing" Jennifer than the fiery "Duel in the Sun" Jennifer and I can see the fiery Jennifer with a boyishly handsome Clift.
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I just mentioned "Monkey Business" in another thread and I realized it would be great paired with the Jerry Lewis "The Nutty Professor".
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Shame they didn't borrow "Monkey Business" from FOX. She was hilarious in that film!
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IMO, the most against-type casting of Cary Grant's career was "People Will Talk".
I could see him in screwball comedies, or playing a bumbling dad, or in anything Hitchcockian....but as a university doctor who has to break it to a young, unmarried Jeanne Crain that she's prego...then ends up falling for her? I was surprised.
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I'm convinced the film fitting in a 1:15 time slot are why it is shown quite frequently (or at least in some folk's opinions). I would really have to know how many times the film has been shown since 1/1/09.
But if the running time is the case, two films that come to mind that would do (and are both in TCM's libraries due to public domain status) are Detour and Cause for Alarm!
I'm pretty sure there are several others as there were quite a few films from the 40s and 50s that were under 70 minutes.
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Primos, that was an EXCELLENT example.
Jackie Gleason:
High - The Hustler
Low - All three Smoky and the Bandit films - heavy emphasis on part 3
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One of my favs had a sad downward spiral
HIGH: *The Bad and The Beautiful*
LOW: The animal lust that existed in her personal life causing her to have an affair with husband Nicholas Ray's 13 year old son...and the scandal bringing her to such a low that she would play "Mama" in the sleaziness that is *Mama's Dirty Girls*
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Audrey Totter was in A LADY IN THE LAKE with Leon Ames
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The more I think about it, I wonder what makes a person or film "forgotten"? I could never use these message boards to figure out if someone was because a few members always seems to know of a particular actor or film or director! (that's a great thing too)
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Cult audiences for "Indiscretions"? Interesting.
I would play MOTHER WORE TIGHTS, MY BLUE HEAVEN, WHEN MY BABY SMILES AT ME.
All three are Fox Musicals splashed with Technicolor and the talented Betty Grable and Dan Dailey. Great singing and dancing but three very different plots.
Mother Wore Tights - they play a vaudevillian couple and the story spans from them first meeting to old age, with shows and having kids in between
My Blue Heaven - once again they are a married song and dance team only this time they are trying to adopt and having issues - there are musical numbers but also some dramatic acting
When My Baby Smiles at me - also playing a vaudeville couple, Dan Dailey was nominated for a Best Actor Oscar as a man whose star rises and his career is threatened due to a drinking problem.
I know that My Blue Heaven was released on Betty Grable's box collection (hopefully there is a volume two but that's a whole different topic). The other two are not available on DVD.
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> {quote:title=Duffys wrote:}{quote}
> Hoping not to inspire anyone to offer me an education on contract players and studio systems,
> I post this negative statement (opinion) which I believe to be fully within the spirit of the thread.
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> and it pertains generally to the films of the 40's and 50's.
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> I wish to complain that there were not more character actors for use in these classics.
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> Lloyd Nolan, an actor I respect, was (it seems to me) over-employed. The studio needed a policeman, doctor, General and off the shelf came Mr. Nolan. *An actor with such distinctive features and voice...I can hardly see the *role* . The protrayed becomes, to my mind's eye, .....well....Lloyd Nolan.*
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> Has anyone else ever groaned when discovering a particular player listed in the cast?
Interesting opinion Duffys - I definitely see where you are coming from.
The above in bold are my sentiments with Betty Hutton. Love her singing but her acting, it is always "same acting, different charactor". I really have to brainstorm any character actors that I have not enjoyed.
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> {quote:title=JarrodMcDonald wrote:}{quote}
> They seem to show a lot of Marilyn flicks, naturally...but they are not showing my favorite one: MONKEY BUSINESS. I love that film. Cary Grant, Ginger Rogers, Marilyn Monroe and Charles Coburn are an absolute scream!
Monkey Business played A LOT during the spring, summer and fall of 2008 on FMC. They would usually pair it with "I Was a Male War Bride" and I even believe "People Will Talk".
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Good insight TikiSoo...
A college film professor once told me the best works are usually those that people strongly like or strongly dislike. People tend to be very generous with their opinion on this site regarding films from the "classic" era but they can give great critical reviews and opinions on more recent films. I prefer more critical reviews and opinions of the classics as well. This thread alone has me prepared to give Peter Sellers another chance.
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Interesting info clore, I never knew this!
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The Dark Corner and The Street With No Name are two coming up in March that are entering their 2-3 month cycle.
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}
> I've seen THIEVES' HIGHWAY. Millard Mitchell played a REAL bad guy. He certainly had the face for it. Hard to believe that this is the same guy from SINGIN' IN THE RAIN.
He definitely had an unforgettable mug. I believe he was a detective in "Kiss of Death" as well.
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an ALMOST FORGOTTEN male category as well...but I can't really think of one off the top of my head.
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> {quote:title=frankt65 wrote:}{quote}
> While at Paramount I worked with both Ameche and Ralph Bellamy on Trading Places. The entire staff adored them, but I got the feeling that they didn't like each other.
Oh wow, really? Can you explain further? I am interested to know. Seems like people only had positive things to say about Ameche after working with him.
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}
> He aged considerably in the years 1948-1953 because of alcohol, Ava, and career downturn.
Agreed. He definitely looked "aged" by the time he did Tony Rome, Lady in Cement and The Detective.
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That about sums him up. also read his TCM bio. It really is the sad truth.
Ginger Rogers, TCM's Star of the Month for March 2010!
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I'm already bracing myself for the "usual" Ginger films...
I wish they were premiering "Black Widow"...she played a grade-A b*%@7 in that film and rightfully so!
But if Ginger is going to be in any noir or crime dramas, please sign me up!