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> {quote:title=Hibi wrote:}{quote} > Why I said this type of movie cant be made now. Stars with the charisma of Audrey Hepburn and Peter O'Toole needed to put this over dont really exist. I believe the basic philosophy no longer exists in society that a person can be calm and self-confident and make their own decisions while not at the same time being "in your face" with their lifestyle. I believe the concept of quiet elegance disappeared from movies in the 1960s. It is possible that this movie is the very last to use it as a basis for characters. > I would love to see Hollywood try though. That statement leads me to believe you like to see very self-important people embarrass themself in public.

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote} > "If I could save only one movie, it would be *Grand Illusion.*" Orson Welles. That quote reminds me of the reviewer who said: "If you see only one movie this year ... you should get out more." > by the way, what is "the grand illusion" in the movie? It was popular at the time to believe that it was an illusion that a war could be won in real terms. There was a book of similar title on economic theory that showed how the winners would always also lose. The growing sentiment in the world just prior to World War I was that there would be fewer wars in the future and they would be small ones because it no longer made sense to have wars.

> {quote:title=casablancalover2 wrote:}{quote} > or Face Off a (not) reality TV show. I like that show very much. I ignore the drama. I find fascinating the process of planning and making the appliances and the costumes and how they paint and apply the make-up. I feel it gives me a better understanding of what the actors endure for their roles and a greater appreciation for the creativity of the people who never appear on the screen.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > if all these people who supposedly are knowledgeable about sculpture are falling all over themselves about how beautiful the "fake" Cellini is, doesn't that mean that it should be judged on its own merits, and thereby be very valuable even if it's not a "Cellini"? I believe the basis is one of insecurity. It is safe to laud any work by Cellini because others for many generations have lauded his works. To give a high value to the work of an unknown artist requires that one have faith in their own judgement of what is classical and beautiful. Such self-confidence is rarely found in critics, collectors or other such leeches.

> {quote:title=slaytonf wrote:}{quote} > A prime example of the remarkable screen presence and personality of an actor, or actors, in this case Aurdrey Hepburn and Peter O'Toole, to overcome serious deficiencies in a script I did not perceive any deficiencies in the script. I found it to be a simple story told in a simple way. Such tales require the actors to bring more to the roles than more complicated plots do because their personality and their interactions are constantly the spotlight. I can not think of any other actors who might have carried it off as well.

> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote} > I know that you always have to suspend belief in films that parents should look like their children, but imagining Hugh Griffith as Audrey Hepburn's father is a bit too much. Perhaps she is his best forgery?

> {quote:title=Dargo2 wrote:}{quote} > I've always been of the understanding that because the definitions of both these nouns are "*a* certain measure *of*", then wouldn't the use of these words in a sentence such as, "They had a plethora(or a modicum) of options." be redundant in the use of the words "a" and "of"? And thus, wouldn't the more correct manner of stating that sentence be, "They had plethora(or modicum) options."? I believe the "a" is required in English. It is much the same as "dozen" being defined as: "a set of twelve" but it is proper to write: "a dozen".

I am sorry I could not post of this earlier. Life is that happens while you are making other plans. I hope all watched this delightful movie! I thank TCM for bringing it to us! It is a gentle comedy which is both sophisticated and madcap. I love the pairing of Peter O'Toole and Audrey Hepburn! They are both cool sophisticates and it is so very precious to see them come into situations which are nearly slapstick. It is one of the most fun capers ever filmed. It is sad that the person who wrote the script for the introduction did not know essential facts in the movie but that was perhaps best as it did not create spoilers for a first-time viewer. I found even the automobiles interesting. She is seen driving a mousy little city car while he drives the most classic of all sports cars. The selection fits their personalities of modesty and flamboyance. This is my favorite William Wyler movie and it is often tied for first place as my favorite movie ever.

I do not worry about using foul language in public when I am mad at a person. I will clip off a fast: Моё судно на воздушной подушке полно угрей and let them wonder how to respond. I might say: Solum potestis prohibere ignes silvarum if the matter is truly serious.

*O'Shaughnessy's Boy Meets Girl With Green Eyes In The Night of the Living Dead of Winter Meeting At Midnight Alibi for Murder by Death Takes a Holiday From Rules of the Game Warden* O'Shaughnessy's Boy (1935), Boy Meets Girl (1938), Girl With Green Eyes (1964), Eyes In The Night (1942), Night of the Living Dead (1968), Dead of Winter (1987), Winter Meeting (1948), Meeting At Midnight (1944), Midnight Alibi (1934), Alibi for Murder (1936), Murder by Death (1976), Death Takes a Holiday (1934), Holiday From Rules (1959), Rules of the Game (1939), Game Warden (1955) *Breakfast For Two Boobs in a Balloon Land of the Midnight Fun & Fancy Free And Easy To Love and the Devil Times Five Miles to Midnight Mystery House Of Dark Shadows of the Night Into Morning Judge Hardy's Children Of Paradise For Three Little Pirates Of The Prairie Thunder in the City Without Men Of The Fighting Lady Of Vengeance of the Zombies On Broadway Ladies They Talk About Face to Face of a Fugitive in the Sky Murder on a Honeymoon For Three for Breakfast For Two* Breakfast For Two (1937), Two Boobs in a Balloon (1935), Balloon Land (1935), Land of the Midnight Fun (1939), Fun & Fancy Free (1947), Free And Easy (1941), Easy To Love (1933), Love and the Devil (1929), Devil Times Five (1974), Five Miles to Midnight (1963), Midnight Mystery (1930), Mystery House (1938), House Of Dark Shadows (1970), Shadows of the Night (1928), Night Into Morning (1951), Morning Judge (1937), Judge Hardy's Children (1938), Children Of Paradise (1945), Paradise For Three (1938), Three Little Pirates (1946), Pirates Of The Prairie (1942), Prairie Thunder (1937), Thunder in the City (1937), City Without Men (1943), Men Of The Fighting Lady (1954), Lady Of Vengeance (1957), Vengence of the Zombies (1973), Zombies On Broadway (1945), Broadway Ladies (1928), Ladies They Talk About (1933), About Face (1942), Face to Face (1952), Face of a Fugitive (1959), Fugitive in the Sky (1937), Sky Murder (1940), Murder on a Honeymoon (1935), Honeymoon For Three (1941), Three for Breakfast (1948), Breakfast For Two (1937) I like how it was possible to bend it around so that the first movie is also the last.

I hope that none here are distressed or anxious by the news in Capuchin's post. This has not been a good month for us in any facet but all the things are transitory and do not affect us in serious or substantial ways. We are happy even although we are not perfectly well either physically or mentally. We have been making ordinary little things into grand adventures. We have been spoon-feeding each other smoothies. We hug away moments of misery. The worst thing of it all is that when Capuchin is truly and deeply feeling ill he becomes like a little boy in that he wishes to play doctor. I believe we would be miserable and wallow in self-pity and would need sympathy if each of us was alone. It is not horrible because we have each other.

It is sad that they can not offer the contest to all viewers. I would enter on your behalf if I could but I do not win things. Capuchin has said that the only time his number was drawn in a lottery it was for a thing called "The Draft" and he was the prize. It concerns me greatly when I see contests which require that a telephone number be provided. I know now several people who can not use a telephone because of their disability and so they do not have a telephone. I believe it is unwarranted discrimination to exclude them from such things.

I love Audrey Hepburn very much and I watch her movies every time I can. I feel it was fitting that her passing did not create a sensation. She was the essence of understated elegance and I believe she would have felt that hype about her passing would have been exploitative and in very bad taste. I like Barbara Stanwyck very much and many of her movies are my favorites. It is sad to say that I do not like Danny Kaye as much now as I did many years ago. It is as if there is a thing about his movies which make them unrewatchable for me. I do thank TCM for this day's schedule. He was a great performer and his work was unique. I hope this day introduces his many talents and accomplishments to a new audience. I would be happy to recommend each and every movie chosen for today to any person who wishes good honest entertainment. It is a wonderful schedule showcasing a wonderful performer!

I believe it is to air on Tuesday, 22 Jan 13 as part of the tribute to caper movies on every Tuesday of this month. I hope some person will alert me if the schedule has changed! This is one of my favorite movies! They are so very perfect together. It is a witty and sophisticated romp. It holds a special place in my heart also because it is the first movie which Capuchin and I saw together. His watch snagged on my uniform and tore a seam. I spilled Pepsi on his. It was a wonderful night!

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote} >> {quote:title=SansFin wrote:}{quote} >> It is purchase on their terms or no purchase at all. That can happen at any time when there is only one source for an item. > Sorry, but I still don't understand how anyone in their right mind can trust a vendor and continue to do business with them when they sell faulty equipment, especially medical equipment. The situation is simple: The government approves only one manufacturer for some items which have low demand and high manufacturing overhead. This is done to control costs and guarantee availability. The manufacturer must agree to price controls and to maintain certain levels of stock. Every business has occasional errors in manufacturing and handling orders. A business operating on minimal-cost basis will have more errors than average. The customer's only recourse when there is an error is to appeal to the business which has very little reason to spend time and money fixing a mistake. The government board which oversees such businesses nearly always accepts the word of the business over the word of a customer who files a formal complaint. The business stops selling to any customer who files a formal complaint because responding to complaints costs time and money and every complaint to the government makes their overall statistics look bad which may make it difficult for them to retain their status when their license must be renewed. The customer must therefore decide between enduring occasional mistakes from the vendor or not providing equipment which relies on parts from that business. I believe it is in this way that the situation is similar to what TCM faces. They must endure occasional mistakes such as receiving the wrong print from a library or stop doing business with that library. The library has no incentive to spend time and money to quickly fix a mistake because license revenue for older movies is not so great as to be a major consideration and they know there is no other supplier for their movies. For TCM to stop doing business with a library would deprive the viewers of a wealth of movies.

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote} > No one in their right mind would or should ever do business with them again. It is purchase on their terms or no purchase at all. That can happen at any time when there is only one source for an item. > If TCM chooses not to do anything about it, it's their choice, and ultimately their responsibility. The only choice might be to not do business with that library. Would you want to be deprived of an entire library of movies because the owners do not always deliver what they promise?

> {quote:title=infinite1 wrote:}{quote} >> {quote:title=SansFin wrote:}{quote} >> It seems to me that the owners and distributors do not consider it a major source of income and so they do not take great care in delivering the type of print which TCM requests. > It is TCM's responsibility to make sure they are getting the type of print they request. I doubt that there is little that they can do. The print likely arrives ten days prior to the first scheduled airing under a new license. The only choice for TCM would be to replace the movie in the schedule if the print is not the one stated in the contract. I believe it is ridiculous to think that TCM can make any demands on the owners since the owners know that TCM can not go to some other supplier for the same product and the licensing fees are not so much as to make a major difference to the owner's bottom line. I have encountered similar situations in repair parts for medical equipment. There are low prices and wonderful service for those items which can be purchased from many vendors but for those parts which come from a single source it is necessary to pay new price for used parts and to be blocked from ever purchasing from them again if you complain often about parts which are wrong or faulty. It is clearly a seller's market and TCM must take what it is given or quit trying to show any of that owner's library.

I welcome you to the boards also! It is sad to say that the subject of your post makes me feel that I must be used. My advice for these boards is to never be negative and to not respond to those who are negative. I believe that will enhance your enjoyment of these boards and prevent any animosity.

I have for very long wondered what it costs to rent a movie. It seems to me that the owners and distributors do not consider it a major source of income and so they do not take great care in delivering the type of print which TCM requests.

> {quote:title=darkblue wrote:}{quote} > I'm sure glad you didn't pose an explanation that's too alarming there, Specialists in many fields often point to changes in perception as an early indicator of a serious problem. Strokes, tumors, aneurysms and other potentially deadly conditions have been diagnosed because astute doctors recognized a danger sign in a patient's mention of a slight change in sight or hearing. Nausea caused by moving black and white images clearly falls into the category of abnormal response to common stimuli. It should as such be investigated by a neurologist. I believe it is simple common sense to lock up any person who claims that black and white movies make them sick.

This is for me a very difficult movie. I love it dearly on many levels for many reasons. I believe it is a rare example of a beautiful, moving and touching movie being also a truly important movie. It is a movie which I am uncomfortable recommending to others because it is of a rare style which most people do not understand and can not enjoy. The way in which I often try to explain it is that it tells the story by faces and settings rather than by dialogue. It is in this way very much a movie to which a person must open themself because it will not batter the viewer over the head with plot or action as most movies do. We did not watch this airing because of personal reasons but I am glad that TCM airs it because it is a beautiful movie which deserves a wider audience. I am sad to say that I have come to have a jaded view of most posters on this forum and I believe that such a subtle masterpiece will receive little acclaim among such Philistines. I am happy to see that there are a few here who know great art when they see it.

It is possible for moving black and white images to cause nausea. It is an abnormal variation on how Op Art causes a variety of somatic responses. Color images do not have the same effect because implicit color changes the manner in which the brain processes images. Such a reaction requires the person's brain to have abnormal figure-ground organization and/or other basic perception-processing aberrations. Some researchers believe that such discordant perceptions are indicative of sociopathic tendencies while others believe it indicates incipient schizophrenia. Such an effect arising after normal perception during childhood indicates a deteriorating condition which may seriously impact the person's ability to function safely in a normal environment. I believe that any person who truly suffers from such a condition should be institutionalized quickly for study, treatment and to protect themself and society.

> {quote:title=filmlover wrote:}{quote}LOL! > how many times have we seen a gunfight in some detective thriller and when the crook runs out of bullets, he throws his gun at the hero. It would be a change to see the gun actually hit the hero and knock him out. I saw once in a movie that there was a shoot-out and one person with a revolver advanced the cylinder so that twice they pointed the gun and clicked on a spent shell. It was then that their opponent stepped out from behind their cover because they thought he was out of shots. The person then shot him. I thought that was perfect! The scene in the Indiana Jones movie where he pulled his pistol and shot the sword-wielding villain was perfect also and it was long-overdue! There are many movies where I wish some person would simply slap the star and tell her to act as a grown-up instead of a whiny brat. That would end most tearjerkers in the first reel.

> {quote:title=Kid_Dabb wrote:}{quote} > The phrase, "Long-haired freaky people..", no longer refers to hippies of the 60's but to NFL players of the 21st century. I believe it would be a sign of age when you hear a person speak of: "long-haired freaky people" and you believe they are speaking of you.

Vera Kholodnaya had a life as dramatic as her movies. She was named: "The Queen of the Screen" and she starred in a hundred movies before she was murdered by the French to hide a scandal when she was only twenty-five years of age.