JamesJazGuitar
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4 minutes ago, ClaudiaElle said:
Mr. Mankiewicz,
I so wish you had addressed the insulting and sexist remarks when hosting That's Entertainment! your channel aired a month or so ago.
When I see you as host I expect sensitive and timely disclaimers regarding the film to be seen. By not doing so, you missed an opportunity to call out the compilation's sexist content.
Frank Sinatra's fat shaming remarks, Jimmy Stewart blaming folks with "thick, foreign accents" where they, " lisp and talk through their noses", and Donald O'Connor's surprise that Esther Wiliams had talent beyond the pool. The minstrel performance, Waiting on the Robert E Lee could also lend itself to an explanation, if possible.
As long as context is provided such as, "This dated film compilation is hosted by white male nitwits."
Thanks for listening, still love TCM and you are one of my favorite hosts.
Claudia McCarty
Interesting. Most "newbies" tend to complain that TCM is being too PC. E.g. the new series about 18 problematic movies like Gone With the Wind, Breakfast at Tiffany, etc...
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1 minute ago, shutoo said:
The Trial of the Chicago 7--Since I have only seen one of the Oscar nominated films (Mank), I thought I'd try another. Well....I thought it was more interesting as a inner look at how the defendants interacted away from the courtroom. The case itself would seem interesting enough without Hollywoodizing it...and yet some of the big dramatic moments were altered--the release of Bobby Seale didn't happen immediately after he was bound and gagged...evidently he had to sit that way for days...were these just days of outrage by the attorneys? And I'm a bit put off by the addition of a wily female agent invented for...what purpose? Just to add a female role? To illustrate how some poor slob can be duped by a pretty face? Whatever...The performances were good, and I was surprised by Sacha Baron Cohen's Abbie Hoffman (I normally write him off as the Borat/Bruno flake), but the academy overlooked Frank Langella's convincing portrayal of the judge...tyrannical and not playing with a full deck. Eddie Redmayne is top billed, but honestly, the Tom Hayden character is the least interesting in the bunch. I'd say it's a good film, but I wouldn't call it great (funny...I thought the same of Mank..)
I meet David Dellinger two days after the Feds said Abbie Hoffman committed suicide. I was having to stay at a hotel for a business conference the following day.
I'm at the hotel bar and a guy sits next to me. He clearly wanted to talk. It was Dellinger, who came into So Cal when he was told about Abbie. It was a very surreal experience. Dellinger had talked to Abbie a few days before and he clearly believed that Hoffman was killed and that there was a cover up.
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29 minutes ago, skimpole said:
Have to say, I've never heard of this Brognine fellow. What's he been in?
Star Trek, the Next Generation?
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6 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
Yeah, I'm one of them. Only know A SUMMER PLACE('59) and LOVE ME TENDER('56).
I lkie him well enough and too would be interested in more of his work.
Sepiatone
You missed Underwater when Jane Russell was Star of the Month? Hard to miss what the film was clearly promoting!
Oh, and Richard Egan is in the film as her husband.
Egan was also featured on Noir Alley in the film Wicked Woman. You should recall the film since it also featured iconic noir actor Percy Helton.
(you may recall that Joe and I teased you about this about a year ago because you were unware of how many noirs Helton was in).
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2 hours ago, Dargo said:
The only reason I can think of as to why our newbie here began their reply to James with that whole "butt" thing was because James offered up the idea at the end of his reply that the newbie might have been old enough to have watched this movie upon its initial release back in 1939, and so possibly took offense to the suggestion of being that old.
I'll bet that's what it was.
(...hopefully yeasandi will return to clarify)
I also assumed the newbie felt I was cracking wise about anyone having seen a 1939 film in a theater that wasn't a revival theater (so say in the early 40s). I was sincere when I said "bravo" if that was the case; bravo for still being around (since one would have to be in their late eighties \ early 90s even if they saw the film as a child).
My dad that passed away last year at 90 would tell me stories of seeing initial releases of films. His favorite memory was seeing Treasures of the Sierra Madre when he was 19. One of his favorite expressions for over 70 years was "We don't need no stinking badges"!
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7 minutes ago, ElCid said:
What is significance of the sad icon? Is it sad that Norma Rae worked in a textile mill or sad that you do not remember the movie?
Cid, Cid, Cid; The reference to Norma Rae was related to the film GWTW, the Civil War and slavery. That since the film GWTW or the Civil War wasn't about slavery, GWTW was really about Norma Rae motivating the workers (who just happen to be slaves, but that is irrelevant it appears), to form a union. (see the clever way workers and union are used related to GWTW). Hey, I believe that is Norma, in GWTW scene 17, in the far background!!!!
I found it funny. (but I know that you wish people would label satire as such since you have a very hard time picking up on it).
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1 hour ago, Sepiatone said:
That's because(let's say in the case of GWTW) slavery HAS nothing to do with the story. The intent of the movie's narrative wasn't any attempt to whitewash how slaves were treated, but relate how the lives of over indulged Southern gentry was radically changed due to the war. And centered on how it affected one person in particular(Scarlett).
I guess you also believe the US Civil War had nothing to do with slavery.
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12 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
I don't think the purpose was to intentionally "glorify" slavery, but maybe....just MAYBE.....
The perversions and horrors of slavery had NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY???
And it's easy for me to believe that a number of slaves at least gave the impression to their "Massa's" that they were complicit. Particularly if it meant less whippin's. Kinda like Luke "gettin' his mind right." (but not really, eh?)
Sepiatone
You continue to make the same case of "nothing to do with the story", which others and I have already countered as ludicrous. A film about rich white Southerners in the USA during the late 1850s, continuing on with the Civil War,,,,, and slavery has nothing to do with the story. Ha ha. Note that the perversions and horrors of slavery are part of slavery. They are the core of slavery from the perspective of the slave. This is why I mentioned the film Spartacus.
If you were a director, I guess you would do a film about Jewish lovers in Germany during the late 30s' and into the 40s,, only showing happy Jewish campers, and use the same lame reasoning; the Holocaust has nothing to do with the story.
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18 minutes ago, thomasterryjr said:
For those of you who are not knowledgeable about Dionne Warwick's discography and radio programming, Dionne Warwick's music, beginning in the mid to late sixties, was always played on Rock and Roll stations. Ms. Warwick had a number one hit with The Spinners in 1974, "Then Came You". She also had numerous hits in the late 70s which were played on Rock and Roll stations. I remember a popular hit from 1982 she did with the Bee Gees' Barry Gibb called "Heartbreaker". In 1985 she, along with Elton John, Gladys Knight, and Stevie Wonder, sang a very popular song "That's What Friends Are For". I also remember Ms. Warwick hosting a rock program called "Solid Gold" in the early 80s.
My only hope is the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" pay her the respect she deserves by admitting her into the Hall while she is alive. I do not want the Hall to do to her like they did Donna Summer and wait until she dies then let her into the Hall of Fame the year after she dies.
The fact Warwick's songs were played on R&R radio stations doesn't make it R&R music. I have a lot of respect for Warwick as a singer and entertainer but I would still classify it as pop music. Anyhow, like I said, this so called R&R Hall, has added many non-rock artist over the decades, so I see no reason to change that now.
I do find it funny that Donna Summer is mentioned. To me that makes the point about this, non-rock, but instead, pop hall of fame.
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21 hours ago, CinemaInternational said:
I know it's off topic, but given how all of us are familiar with pop music, I wanted to share information about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame nominations for this year. Of course, the artists/bands that get in are decided by a committee, but they also allow the public to vote up to a daily basis for their favorite artists at this link here: https://vote.rockhall.com/
Typically speaking, usually 6 acts or so make it in from the longlist every year.
This year's longlist is.....
Mary J. Blige
Kate Bush
Devo
The Foo Fighters
The Go-Gos
Iron Maiden
Jay-Z
Chaka Kahn
Carole King
Fela Kuti
LL Cool J
New York Dolls
Rage Against the Machine
Todd Rundgren
Tina Turner
Dionne Warwick
And for the record, I just voted for Dionne (perhaps one of the most beautiful singing voices I have ever heard), Tina, Carole, Kate, and Chaka.
Pop music hall of fame. Not much rock here, but that is how its been for a while.
Dionne is the the last ones I would vote for if this was really a rock hall of fame. Oh, well, I'll just listen to jazz.
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CNN has an article about this TCM new series. Of course CNN and TCM are owned by the same company.
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1 hour ago, LuckyDan said:
My third hour of Match Game reruns on Buzzr.
I'm not living my best life.
I'm watching Decades, and the Route 66 marathon.
Next week with be The Saint. I really enjoy the early B&W ones.
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50 minutes ago, Millenniumman said:
Thanks for the reply.
No problem. Hey, I'm a big fan of The Mask of Dimitrios and I would say it is the best work the two do together on a film. I say this since the two are the leads of the film. They have a lot of screen time and they use it well (also because while the story all revolves around Zachary Scott, since he is underground, we don't see him as much as the other two).
But you asked what is best film featuring the two actors, and I suspect most people would say Casablanca (often said to be one of the top 10 films of all time), and then The Maltese Falcon. Of course in these two films they are not the stars but instead Bogart is.
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5 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
What was Fuller's original ending? Shockproof reminded me of Tomorrow Is Another Day lovers on the run with a similar kumbaya ending.
In Samuel Fuller's original script, the film ended with a violent rebellion by Marat against the system that kept him and Marsh apart. The studio had National Velvet scriptwriter Helen Deutsch step in to pen a soft-suds rewrite.
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1 hour ago, Millenniumman said:
Hi everyone just a friendly reminder The mask of Dimitrios will be airing this Saturday on tcm, The mask of Dimitrios is my favorite Sydney Greenstreet and Peter Lorre collaboration just curious what do you think is the best film featuring the two actors.
Their first one together: The Maltese Falcon.
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16 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:
Sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. You can discuss Hudson NY and the telephone poles all you want. I guess if you have to deal with my obsession with the Bogart Tree, I should shut up and go with the flow.
Hey, no problem. Like I said, I'm the one that started to get the thread off track with my comment about poles and wires, and of course you weren't acting like a moderator.
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10 minutes ago, LuckyDan said:
I found the audio. It was a running gag that night with **** standing in front of Paul's building trying to get him to come out and talk. He says to the audience that he learned a trick from rona barrett about throwing rocks at the window. "Worksa every time."
Edit: **** is bad now?
Edit 2: I'm ready to check out of the 21st century. One of us is a little hypersensitive and I don't think it's me.
Yes, it looks like **** (g-u-i-d-o) can't be posted since it is defined as a ethnic slur. Note that this site uses software and it often goes off in odd directions.
E.g. the Chester Morris serial; Boston B-l-a-c-k-i-e. For some reason Boston ******* doesn't have the same ring to it!
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4 hours ago, LuckyDan said:
That's the confidence of youth.
Yea, but the same year he made this film and the basis of the story is lack of confidence;
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3 minutes ago, Thompson said:
Next week will be interesting. Kubrick is different. How can a movie man make a film like The Killing, turn around and make Dr. Strangelove, and then make huge mistakes like Barry Lyndon and Eyes Wide Shut? Killer’s Kiss is only one hour and seven minutes. That’s enough time for any movie, and certainly enough time for Miss Kitty and Chester to build a telephone pole.
Interesting choice for Eddie and Noir Alley. Haven't seen this Kubrick film. You make a great point about how Kubrick had his ups and downs.
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2 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:
Did I miss something? I usually come to this site to discuss film noir. All of a sudden the conversation is about telephone poles, Miss Kitty from GUNSMOKE and whether Hudson NY has changed in sixty years. I guess I had higher expectations for this site. Silly me.
Well that what happens when Eddie shows a repeat on Noir Alley; I'm a big fan of Odds Against Tomorrow, but I have already made many comments on it.
Those cool phones Cigar Joe posted were also repeats - he had posted them before. So the only comment I could think of was that after all those decades the area still has a lot of over ground wires. My area got rid of those over 20 years ago (mainly to reduce fire risk).
As for Kitty: in B&W she looked fine but in color, with the over done heavy make-up, well she doesn't belong in Noir Alley, but in the Horror thread!
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2 minutes ago, fxreyman said:
Having read and reread all comments from the thread titled:
Started by Arbogast on December 2, 2020, I felt the need, or possibly the desire to look more closely into any numbers associated with total amount of films from certain time periods that have been First of all I would like to shout out a very big thank-you to MovieCollectorOH for providing everyone with the information he has gathered so that I could make these calculations in the first place.
MovieCollectorOH’s elusive Old Schedules project listing TCM Unique Features and Repeats Movies only, USA only last updated on 02/02/2021 was the list I used to help me tabulate the results I have below.
After several weeks of on-again, off-again tabulations, I have completed my project. The project was to figure out just how many American made films have been shown on TCM from the inception of the channel in 1994 all the way up to the last complete year of broadcast, 2020.
Since much of the discussion over the years here on the message boards have concentrated on films made up to a fixed point in time, and that point in time usually has been stated to be the late 1950’s or more exact, 1959, many posters have argued that 1959 should be the last year that American studio produced films should be counted and therefore be shown on the channel.
I have had long discussions with posters like JamesJazzGuitar who have indicated that the actual demise of the American studio film should be the year 1968. In November of that year, the newly formed MPAA came into existence and with it, the final determination of the old Hays Code. That code was eliminated. Although one could argue that many producers and directors had been finding ways to move away from the guidelines of the Hays Code as early as the late 1950’s and into the mid 1960’s. The influx of foreign films, the innovation and popularity of television simply was too great for the old film studios to compete against. So, even though the Hays Code was officially abandoned in November of 1968, the abandonment had started years earlier.
So we have come to this. There are two camps within the posters who have commented on this issue over the years. Those who fervently believe that only films made before 1959 should be shown on the channel. And those of us who believe that any film from any period be allowed to be shown on the channel, so long as though the vast majority of the films shown are from before 1968.
This project was to figure out just what percentage of American Studio films shown on TCM since TCM’s inception in April of 1994 up to the last full year of broadcast, 2020 would show definitively the percentage of films from certain time periods.
Based on the excellent information gathered by MovieCollectorOH, I was able to go in and tabulate that information into the % of films shown on TCM from certain time periods.
To do this as accurately as possible I used the data MovieCollectorOH tabulated in his charts.
The breakdown of available films produced in the US was as follows:
1915 - 1919
1920 - 1924
1925 - 1929
1930 - 1934
1935 - 1939
1940 - 1944
1945 - 1949
1950 - 1954
1955 - 1959
1960 - 1964
1965 - 1969
1970 - 1974
1975 - 1979
1980 - 1984
1985 - 1989
1990 - 1994
1995 - 1999
2000 - 2004
2005 - 2009
2010 - 2014
2015 - 2019I proceeded to count all of the films in a given broadcast year by counting and totally up the number of first time run films only. I did not tabulate repeats. The numbers I counted I then applied a % of those films towards a given range of years.
Since much debate has occurred over the years as to which films from which range of years has often been the sticking point in conversations I used four periods of time to tabulate the results.
I took the years 1915 to 1959 as the first group.
My second group was from 1915 to 1969.
My third group was films produced in the US from 1960 to 2020.
And my fourth group was films produced from 1970 to 2020.
Since there has always been debate amongst the regular contributors here on the message board, especially those folks who consider certain films from certain years to be the films TCM should focus on, I felt a more complete look at the actual %’s was warranted.
Only one year was an anomaly. 1999. According to MovieCollector’s data, only 600 films were tabulated. Maybe he did not have all the information he needed to get the complete total number of films. I have included the numbers for that year in my calculations.
I will post below each individual year so if anyone out there is interested in seeing a particular year you can do so. I will also present a pdf so those of you who would want to open in a separate window can do so.
Here then are the results I came up with for the four periods of time:
1994 - 2020
60,653 total American Studio Films shown on TCM (no repeats)
1915 - 1959
48,205 films
79.5%1915 - 1969
55,376 films
91.3%1960 - 2020
12,438 films
20.5%1970 - 2020
5,157 films
8.7%As one can see from the above results if we are to apply the “up to 1959 year”, the % is still below 80%. But if we were to include films made up to and including 1969 that figure jumps above 90%. The inclusion of after 1960 films and then 1970 and after films is not too different than what I would have expected.
What do you all think?
Great info. I wanted to do this once MovieCollector provide that info but I was too lazy!
Since I define the American talking picture studio-era as 1929 - 1968, I still getting that 80% plus I seek as part of TCM's branding.
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Fine actress that was in many good films. I also discovered her late; E.g. only in the last 10 years or so.
Yeah, I'm one of them. Only know A SUMMER PLACE('59) and LOVE ME TENDER('56). 
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Uh, they are actors.