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  1. 49 minutes ago, slaytonf said:

    Ilsa tells Rick in his office that night that she will never have the strength to leave him again.  She intends to stay with him, because the pull of her love for him is too strong.  Up to the last moment, she expects to stay in Casablanca with Rick, which is the basis for his hill-of-beans speech.

    It is highly likely Ilsa just tells Rick that in order to save her husband from sure death.    One can't be sure that is how she really felt.    Clearly she was torn,   My view is that she didn't know what she wanted or how she really felt,  which is why she is a sympathetic character.      As for the ending;  my view is that Rick understands this as well.    He understand that having Paris was a thing of the past.    

  2. 15 minutes ago, slaytonf said:

    Re the airing of Casablanca (1942) yesterday.  I actually watched it.  I end up doing so about once a year, because despite the adulation it gets, it's actually a good movie.  Something makes me wonder, though.  I think there's little doubt Rick and Ilsa slept together in Paris.  A vital love like theirs cannot grow or be maintained otherwise.  And it's hard to imagine Rick plunging into such an abyss of disillusion from something solely platonic.  But the night they reunite in his office in Casablanca, we see them kiss, but would that be all?  We see the tower with the rotating searchlight, not the usual surrogate for sex.  And later, as Ilsa recounts the parallel events to their affair, they are clothed.  That doesn't mean much, though, as it's not possible the censors would allow even the merest hint at undress.  But is it possible they could have gotten Paris back with only a kiss?

    Or is is sacrilege to consider?

    I don't think they had sex that night.   The reason is simple:   Ilsa is married to a man that is living,  and she loves that man.  

    If she was to have had sex,  as a reflection that she loved Rick,  but not her husband,   then there would be no reason for her internal turmoil.    I.e.  she would have just told her husband she was leaving him for Rick. 

  3. 18 minutes ago, cinemaspeak59 said:

    Men Are Not Gods (1936) Miriam Hopkins went to England to film this romantic drama.  A favor for the devoted wife of a fledgling actor brings Miriam’s character new friends, but also envelops her in a romantic triangle that turns dangerous. The love/sex dualism is presented as a male entitlement, but for women a painful bargain fraught with longing and loneliness. The mood is brightened by wry comedic touches, as well as lovely shots of London landmarks. Hopkins’ performance is made memorable by a scene in which she bluntly and powerfully confronts the one-sided choices women are asked to make.  Men are indeed not gods, but some of them aspire to be. This film features Rex Harrison in an early role, and also stars famed British stage actress Gertrude Lawrence.    

    Did TCM show this?   If it did,  I'm a fool for missing it since this is a Hopkins film I wanted to see.     

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