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Well I didn't really watch this film except for a few minutes: The Ice Pirates (1984). Now I'm a fan of Robert Urich and his two T.V. shows Vegas and Spencer for Hire, but I don't see how this film fits any type of TCM branding. Is the reason TCM showed this film was because John Carradine is in it and it is October? I'm not complaining, just curious.

According to The Economist the nonsense word of the moment is "like"; it is often used in the same context as "so"; As in: like, lets go get a beer.

I agree; I don't know of any man that considers red lips "dated". Now the hairstyles that I get. I mentioned this again, about Nina Foch. In her 40s films she wore her pretty blonde hair long. But then that bun look became a thing in the 50s and Foch didn't look as sexy with a bun. What actress did? I blame in all on Jane Wyman! As for Red-lips; Here are the Kinks - Ray must of loved red lips in the 60s.

I've never considered that Keys and de Havilland looked alike but I can somewhat see it now; I read the Huston book where a lot is mentioned about these two women and it could be that Huston liked a certain "type". So I'll grant you similarities (ha ha). Still nothing like Anne Shirley and Olivia; Even when I was reviewing images to post that picture of Anne I was again surprised about how they took almost like twins. Anne looks more like Olivia than Joan does.

Oh, I understand now why you posted this. What I didn't know at the time was that Being the Ricardos was a new production and the "trailer" was for that and not about the Ricardos film that features a trailer of a different kind (a film that is mentioned a lot when Ball is a topic). As for my expectations in the future: I'm more concerned about mine (e.g. not making bogus assumptions), then yours. As for this new production: Like Dan says, this could be interesting. As far as casting; well for these type of bio-films, no casting is "right". My take is that one either has to suspend reality and just accept the actors as the person they are playing or not watch it if that is too difficult (which it can be based on how much someone is really into those actual people).

Who isn't getting along? Are you making more bogus assumptions?

I don't see it. Olivia and Anne Shirley look similar but I don't see it in Keys.

I didn't go to this thread at first because I felt it was silly to create on just for this one film. I only went to it now because of who created it; I.e. this guy is solid and I just had to find out why he would focus on this one film! I see now that my assumption was all wet.

Well the make-up department left alone her eyebrows; They are the same in the two photos. But all joking aside, I don't think one can compare how Olivia looks in the two films for the very basic reasons I gave related to a western and the fact that in Libel she lives in London, a major city, with a well-off husband and such a women can afford to look their best and often do for social status reasons. Also I wonder if how Olivia looks in The Proud Rebel relates to the plot line; that Ladd and her form a bond over his son. Note the town rumors when she hires the proud rebel as a worker. If Olivia was made to look stunning audiences might focus too much on their relationship, instead of all focused on the boy and that would distract from the main point line that resolves all around the son. I can't recall the ending, but is it implied that the two will get married? If yes, that doesn't mean they love each over; i.e. it could still be all about the boy. PS: I actually believe Olivia has the right look for the time period \ setting \ character in The Proud Rebel. If she looked like she did in Libel it wouldn't have worked especially in color. (we see this with some early T.V. color westerns where the women look like they just got out of a beauty solon in Beverly Hills, because, well, they did!).

Nice post and one I agree with; so no one has been able to get access to the SOTM schedule so we know which films will be shown?

I could agree with such a claim but that wasn't really the comment; instead it was "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and all that but the statement is simply not true. Adding 'simply not true' is another way of saying that they, and they alone, know what "beauty" is and that it is in their eyes and not that of the beholder. That is not the same as saying; we can agree to disagree, but instead is the polar opposite.

Interesting theory: I suspect it has more to do with the breaking down of the studio-system. I.e. films such as The Proud Rebel, produced by Sam Goldwyn, were independent productions; the actors, directors, crew were all hired for the film instead of using under contract by the studio staff. Of course director Curtiz and DeHavilland made a lot of films while they both were under contract at Warner Bros. I would like to believe Curtiz didn't make Olivia more glamorous because he wished to focus on realism (a women living a fairly rough life in the west without access to beauty parlors, hair dressers, make-up etc...). AND when he made those other films with Olivia the studio protected her image as a glamorous movie star.

After I see I Wake Up Screaming I have various instrumental versions of Over the Rainbow stuck in my head for days.

Jean Arthur was 52 when she made Shane. That is too old to have a son especially in the west at during that time period. (de Wilde was 10 when the film was made).

Cobb was casts in some odd character roles like this one in Left Hand of God:

The film, The Dark Past, is a remake of Blind Alley (1939), and it is being shown on Noir Alley, so any confusion is understandable.

The film is The Dark Past with William Holden, Nina Foch and Lee J. Cobb.

The last time I ordered squab was over 3 years ago in France. Don't see it here in So Cal.

You're correct that my reference to Kim Novak was related to Vertigo, but I guess my recall of that scene, as well as what I read about Hitch making her do multiple takes of the jump into the water, were off.

The 1941 The Maltese Falcon is known for how much smoking is going on. Jack Warner wanted it reshot to reduce the amount and Huston did redo a few scenes but was convinced by Huston and especially Peter Lorre that the smoking added to the atmosphere of the film. Lorre had some non PC comments related to why a guy like him would be smoking up a storm.

Kim Novak told me something different.

Lured (1947) is a good film and being from United Artist I'm glad TCM is showing it even if it is a month after Lucy's SOTM month. The film was made in Hollywood but it gives off the vibe as being made in Britain. Casting Boris Karloff is kind of misleading; he is more humorous than scary. I like the chemistry between Sanders and Lucy.

Wasn't there a sequel called Brighton Coral?

I was surprised to see Bondi play such a mother figure in The Very Thought of You. I recall how she was in Remember the Night towards Stawynck and she was a thief about to steal away her son. At first in The Very Thought of You I felt Bondi must be just play-acting; acting that way to try to influence a difficult situation. I keep waiting for the wink or smile to her husband telling me that was the case. But NO, she was just down right mean.