JamesJazGuitar

I like Four is a Crowd since I'm a fan of Russell, Flynn and especially Olivia DeHavilland but how does this film resemble His Girl Friday? I just don't see how the plots are similar or the circumstances. But yes, yet another fine film directed by Curtiz and the paring of Russell and Flynn was good. While the paring of DeHavilland and Flynn are well known this is a movie where they don't end up together at the end.

Well I alway try to promote (so to speak), Dan Duryea since I find him a very interesting actor. In World of Ransom he plays the good guy and the overseas setting adds a great vibe to this noir. I will admit I picked movies with a different lead actor as a way of adding interest.

,,, are wonderfully over-the-top and enjoyable. Funny how in a horror film over-the-top is enjoyable! To me all horror borders on camp but the key is how close the movie gets to that border. The great ones don't cross the line but often get very close to it. Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Oct 9, 2012 8:15 PM

Jonas. I tend to agree with you that I really don't see a topic here, per se. First what makes a movie overrated? i.e. who decides this? Now one specific criteria would be an official ranking like the AFI top 100. Clearly one could say the movies on that list are highly rated (at least by the AFI), and thus one could have an actual discussion of what movies on that list should NOT be on that list, and thus overrated. But unless there is some specific criteria for what makes a movie 'overrated', what I generally see is people just saying movies they don't like are overrated by definition. Of course the same applies to what is 'underrated'. i.e. for something to be over or under RATED, it first has to be RATED. Hey, I work with complex statistics for a living and yes, I'm prone to overanalyze. As for To Catch A Thief, as far as Hitchcock movies, I would tend to agree that it isn't one of his most highly regarded movies (based on the forum we had here where people listed their favorite Hichcock movie). While I like the movie I wouldn't rank it in Hitch's top 10. But I wouldn't say it was overrated, just not one of my favorite Hitchcock movies.

1. Bette Davis 2. Barbara Stanwyck 3. Olivia DeHavilland 4. Jean Arthur 5. Carole Lombard 6. Katharine Hepburn 7. Audrey Hepburn 8. Ros Russell 9. Myrna Loy 10. Joan Crawford.

I would say it was about even. Joan was in around 70 movies and so was Constance but as noted Constance was popular in the 30s, especially the early 30s, but really started to fade in the 40s, especially after WWII, while 6 years younger sister Joan started off in the mid 30s and really took off in the 40s and post WWII noirs, and than in the 50s in mother roles. Two very different careers but two very nice gals in their own way. Second best set of actress sisters. Olivia Dehavilland and Joan Fontaine being tops in my book.

Great take on this movie. First time I had seen it and I was surprised by the ending. The wife keep saying we had seen this before but I told her she was confusing it with the Dracula movies. She didn't believe me until the end. You're correct that the hypnosis subplot doesn't really add up. In fact I keep thinking that by using hypnosis the police could have destroyed their case from a legal perspective. Another thing I noticed (when I didn't know what was really up), was when the Count had Luna suck the neck of the daughter. I wondered why didn't he just do that. While it is standard practice for the head male vampire to have the female vampires drain the blood and kill males, the head male vampire always likes to drain the blood of beautiful gals. I wondered if there was some type of vampire lesbian thing going on. Thus when I learned there were no real vampires I still wondered why that occured. All three of them were in on the hoax. No one that didn't know was there at the time. So why the need to playact that scene? Oh well it was a cool scene anyhow.

Here are the 5 I would pick based on seeing them. i.e.. they are my favorites from the list: Ace in the Hole Dead Reckoning Ride the Pink Horse Rogue Cop World for Ransom But there are many other good films on this list.

Well Tom in this case romance does appear to trump everything. e.g. One doesn't hear much about Bogie being married at the time (yes, it was a rocky marriage), or that age difference. Often when there is over a 20 year age difference people will can the guy a leach or the women a golddigger. My theory how why we don't hear these type of comments is because the romance between the two was just there for all to see. Thus romance triumphs again! PS: I went to the Wikipedia site on Bogart to get the name of his wife when he meet Bacall; Under the heading 'marriage' they start with Bogie getting a divorce in February of 1945. No mention of the name of his wife (Mayo). Nothing about his other marriages. It just goes on to mention the marriage with Bacall. So this romance was so strong it wiped out all of his other relationships if one is to believe Wikipedia!

I will not follow any instructions you give to me. If Tom feels my point didn't relate to the topic I'll kindly follow his advise. I feel my post was still relevant since it was about Bacall. Her book By Myself is mostly about her relationship with Bogie. Only about 5% is about others. TOM: I'm sorry I did reply and if this took your thread in a direction you didn't wish it to go. I broke my own rule by replying to someone I said I would never reply to (I did it once and got a similar nasty response). I will ensure I stick to my rule in the future. Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Oct 1, 2012 2:51 PM

Yes, this is a nice tribute Tom has created here. I have to admit I tend to overlook Walsh and his contributions to classic movies. Some of my favorite movies were directed by Walsh e.g. Strawberry Blonde, but I don't always associated Walsh with there WB movies so a tribute like this is needed to wake me up!

Bacall's book, By Myself, covers some of the "why" behind her relationship with Jason Robards. For one thing Audrey Hepburn told Bacall she should meet him and that she would really like him. Robard had children around the same age as her. He was Jewish. "he was quite dazzling - and a litte crazy, a remarkable actor and unlike any I'd ever known'. "My need for someone having been denied for so long, it was impossible for me to turn away". Bottom line Bacall fell in love. Why is that so difficult to comprehend?

No Eroll Flynn is!

Nice to see Jayne Meadows is still with us. While she was only a minor star (compare to her sister), I'll alway remember her in Song of The Thin Man. Powell at frist believed she killed Gloria Grahame. Too bad she didn't because to bump off one of the queens of noir would of been something!

Since you have a computer it really isn't very hard to put the music on all of your CDs on to your computer and than get a NANO and transfer the music from the computer to the NANO. Than you can plug the NANO into your new car's system (which in a few years may NOT have a CD player or it will be an extra cost) and you will have ALL of your music. Now I had cars that only had cassette tape up until 18 months ago! But when I got the new car it had a plug in system for a NANO and it has been great. Now I can take ALL of my music with me. Also if you rent a car the cars have the same device (just remember to bring the plug in cord), and you can have ALL of your music with you on vacation. One funny thing: I gave my two old cars to my nieces. I gave them the tapes also since I no longer had a tape player and I had ALL of my music on the NANO anyhow. My sister laughed since these teens don't like jazz music, Frank, etc.. Oh well maybe they will get educated and get some taste! (no I bet they tossed them when their uncle wasn't looking!)

As for Williams dubbing Bacall voice in THAHN for How Little We Know, Bacall's book By Myself says that she is the one singing. But she does mention that the singing was dubbed later one to 'fix' some notes she couldn't hit (by dubbed with her own voice). Pages 108 and 109. (I just read this because of Andy's death).

I did more research on if Williams is the one singing in To Have and Have Not and according to Bacall it is her singing. Her book By Myself, page 108 and 109 talk about this. She does mention that she had to sing to a playback of a pre-recorded version of her doing the song and that while Hawks was satisfied with the recording, he thought one or two notes might have to be dubbed latter on. This may explain why her singing looks dubbed and not that natural in that sense. Sorry for spreading that rumor about Williams but hey, it was nice while it lasted!

Well Addison, I had the sound turned off! But yea I did notice the voice was dubbed and that did distract from the moment.

You're correct. It was the crap that broke the camel's back!

I think they do ban someone based on IP address. I was 'locked out' of the system and I wrote an e-mail to the TCMAdmin and they told me that they incorrectly locked out my IP address. If they don't use an IP address than they don't ban someone at all. i.e. banning a nickname would be a joke since all someone has to do is use another nickname. Also, what would be wrong by banning anyone that used that computer? i.e. everyone in that household. The fault still lies with the character of the one using said computer. Anyhow he was NOT banned because he critiqued what movies TCM shows; It was for calling people here names. Look at the post right before he was banned. The guy totally deserved to be banned.

Mine would be the 30s, than the 40s, than the 50s. But clearly 30s are my favorite. The main reason: Pre-code, and comedies.

The love interest for Gable in The Husksters was Deborah Kerr, in her first American movie who was 26 at that time. Ava Gardner was his former love interest. No Mary Astor. But yes Astor had a mature look due mainly to her hairstyle (IMO).

Yes, a lot of good noirs starting with the name Johnny. I assume that name is used because of the term 'John Doe'. i.e. the male name Johnny is very generic. Those with this name are used to being insulted! If they used a name like Frank, no Frank would go see the movie. Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Sep 23, 2012 1:42 PM

Only 1 12 out of 4 for a movie where Ava looked so hot? I would say 2 1 2 points because I give 1 just to that singing scene with Ava! Also, since I'm a big fan of the TV show Mad Men I found this movie interesting. There were a few plot devices in the movie that the writer of Mad Men used in that. Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Sep 22, 2012 6:18 PM

Finance do you really know Rendell? Isn't he the guy that I see on Hardball a lot, representing the Dems? What makes him the living authority?