JamesJazGuitar

Never had Fox Movie Channel. We are talking about the Cary Grant movie where his manservant is some type of former criminal (murderer if my memory is any good).

Are you sure People Will Talk has never been shown on TCM. I really believe I have seen it on TV without any commercials and that means it was on TMC. But it might of been over 5 or so years ago.

As the other person said, I believe Lombard is the women in front and NOT the one with her arms around Webb. Hey the two women look similar but that is how I see it.

Jezebelle, well your very knowledgeable since your list has many of my favorites. Did you know that 13 year old Andy Williams is the one singing How Little You Know? Yea, that isn't Bacall singing but little Andy.

darkblue; Really no connection to movies at all? I could see favorite games that feature a movie theme, but at least some connection to movies since this is a TCM site, and the M stands for MOVIES.

I enjoy Dark Passage but it is my least favorite B&B movie, and would be ranked around 10th as Bogie movies go. The main reason being Bogie isn't in the first 13 or so of the movie and that the best scene has him hiding in a room (the one where the love triangle have a face off). But the setting of the movie in SF is a treat. The wife and I go there at least once a year, and then head to Napa for the wines. Too Marvelous for Words is one of my favorite songs. Love that 37 version (the one with the typewriters I believe). Rudy was sometimes challenged as an actress but I still find her a treat. Her cuteness just knocks me over.

Read the post more closely. Comments like 'TCM has not big libary' is a knock on TCM. It is his way of saying 'TCM is too cheap to buy the rights for movies they don't have'. I will say it does appear to me that TCM is showing a lot more repeats than it use to, but again, I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just watching TCM more than I did back then. But it is my understanding they have the WB and MGM libary. There are many 'B' movies from those studios (especially WB), that they could show (assuming they have the rights).

Martha Vickers at the start of The Big Sleep.

My friends mom was one of the main dancers in the 50 Foot Women movie. Her character is the one killed when the big gal breaks into the club where her cheating husband was. She was one of the top ballroom dancers in the 50s. Her last name was Griminger. She just passed away about 18 months ago and I didn't know this fact until they showed a list of her work during the service.

I also recommend Young Man With A Horn, all three of the stars, Douglas, Day and Bacall are good in this one (of course being a jazz musician I'm partical to this movie!). How to Marry A Millionaire is fun. Written on the Wind is a litte too much drama for me but it does have it moments. I would also recommend Designed for Living with Peck. They were close friends and they have a good connection in this movie.

I've seen both of the Lorre movies. Mad Love is a good movie, with the expressive acting of Clive (yea, some would say too expressive!). Beast with 5 Fingers is only OK, but still worth a watch.

Capuchin: With regards to 'Mention of an actor's, or anyone else's, religion or politics is totally inappropriate here'; I don't agree was it relates to an actor's religion or politics. This is a forum on movies and thus actors, directors, and all the others in that business. Most movies have some type of 'message' and therefore there can be a tie to religion or politics related to that message. For example, WB made a lot of social message movies in the 30s about poor children and how abusive treatment only helps makes them thugs. This was a counter message to a message of; Thugs deserve abusive treatment, the only way to get them back in line is a kick in the pants. Take the movie High Noon and the reactions of Wayne, Cooper and other in the industry to the theme of the movie. This related to the politics of those involved. I feel there is a place for that type of discussion and I found the discussions here related to this interesting as well as enlightening. It is all in how the discussion is conducted by us.

With a list of ...Eddie G., Cagney, Bogart, Bette, Ida Lupino and Claude Raines, you must be a sucker for Warner Brother releases of the 30s and 40s. I know I am! But no love for Flynn and DeHavilland?

The Left Hand of God is an OK movie and does have an impressive leading cast but with Lee J. Cobb playing a Chinese warlord and Bogie pretending to be a priest. Bogie as a priest is indeed miscasting but again, he was pretending to be a priest so the fact he didn't come off as a priest could be said to support that narrative. Gene Tierney does her part well. Sadly she was fighting a case of depression. In her book Self-Portrait, she has some kind things to say about Bogie. For fans of Bogie and Tierney the movie is worth seeing. If Wayne can play a Chinese warload, why not Cobb!

lzcutter; I don't think one can determine young people support as a percentage of market share by the number of people that show up at the Film Festival; Yes, there were plenty of young people, but there are over 120 million young people in the USA. What percent are willing to spend some of their time and income on classic movies? I have no idea and again, and I hope 'many' are willing. Again, some polling data by age group would be of interest.

Midnight Run is one of my favorite non studio era movies, for all the reasons people have mentioned here. Often when a movie that is played for laughs tries to get serious it just doesn't work. i.e. the tension in the scene the director is tying to create just falls flat, but here the movie moves from lighthearted to serious in seconds but it doesn't looked forced or phony. I think the main reason is the great acting (especially by DeNiro), as well as sound direction.

Well I hope your right and I'm just being a cynic! But the fact you mention becoming interested because of your mother is an example of the point I was making. For future generations how many 'mothers' (older folks), that enjoy classic (studio era) movies will be around to pass that on to their kids. Less and less each year I believe. Note we see something similar with pro-sports. Even pro football was starting to lose younger men since many didn't have the same passion for pro-football that their father had (MMA is the sport many younger men are interested now). Thus pro-football decided to market to women, especially single women. A group they didn't 'need' in the past but they need now due to the decreased interest by young men.

Well I'm only a groupie of those actors with great talent! I rarely ever watch a classic (studio era), movie because it has an actress I feel is 'hot' but not that talented. For example, in my view Rita wasn't a very good actress in her early days, but I still enjoy most of the movies she was in because her co-stars were very good actors and Rita was a very good dancer. So her 'so, so' acting didn't impact the enjoyment of the movie for me.

infinite1: Isn't the 'million dollar question' here related to this sentence you posted: We want TCM to show classics, nothing but classics, and mainly studio era classics from the golden age, which everyone who comes to this channel appears to enjoy and can agree are worth the price of admission Are there enough people in the group you define above as 'we' (and I'm with you 100%), to allow TCM to continue to support what *we* desire? Sadly I think the answer is NO, but I hope I misjudge the taste of others NOT in this 'we' group. e.g. Take TCM Underground; Why did TCM create this? To please those in the above 'we' group? (very unlikely). The most likely reason TCM created TCM Underground was to expand their audience. Of course TCM takes a risk with this type of programming; To gain new viewers at the risk of losing diehard studio ear classic movie fans. Funny you mention the GOP since one key issue for them is if their "tent" is big enough to allow the party to win national elections. Like TCM the GOP has hardcore loyal supporters but they risk losing these if they expand their "tent" too much. But they have to expand their "tent" because otherwise the number of their supporters will continue to shrink due to sheer demographics.

Universal: We are about the same age and have a common interest in classic movies (e.g. my favs are also 30s - 40s, but I also love noirs of the 50s), but as you say 'so'??? Just because we discovered these movies doesn't mean future generations will at a market share rate high enough to keep a station like TCM operating. The one thing I think links movies made today with 'old' movies from the 60s and 70s is that they are in color. e.g. I have meet people that say they enjoy 'old' movies but only if they are in color. In 2012 a movie made in 1972 is 40 years old, so to many that is an old movie. But since it is in color they are still open to viewing it. But I have found it difficult to get people I know under the age of 35 or so to watch a black and white movie and most of the 30s - 40s movies we love are black and white. So again, I just wonder if years from now there will be an interest in those movies by more than 2 - 4% of the US population.

Switchin; My favorite classics are from the 30s also and I yea, I was born 30 years after that so, like you, I hope future generations discover the movie era from the 20s - 50s. I guess I'm not as hopeful as you might be, but that is mainly because of my love for classic jazz music. When I first got into jazz around 25 years ago there were 2 commercial radio stations in the So Cal market that played jazz. Now there are only college stations. No commercials but instead fund raising drives. My point here: Interest in classic jazz has gone down to a such a level that one cannot even break even featuring it. The only jazz that can break even is soft jazz (and I would rather listen to rock or the blues before that). Can classic movies gather new generation of fans? But yea, I'm with you in the hope TCM stays 'true' to it's existing mission. But I would be really interested in so data; e.g. by age group, what percent of people watch TCM at least 4 hours a week, 8, 12 hours, etc... What is the interest level of those, say, under 40, for movies made from 20s - 50s?

Well if TCM did feature Gleason in SUTS and they showed those Republic films where he was the lead than I would of learned something and not been so misinformed!

I agree with Intermezzo. A very fine picture and her first in an American production (I believe). I also wondered why this wasn't shown while Howard was SOTM, but then TCM has shown it a few times, so I felt they were holding it for her day. Oh well. Yea, I tend to agree that overall the selection of movies doesn't show her at her best.

I don't think this is a ridiculous discussion (as far as the topic is concerned but some of the exchanges here border on the ridiculous). Corporations often mess with a unique brand when their market share shrinks to an unacceptable level. I assume a lot of the fans of TCM are over the age of 50. This group was raised by people that saw movies from the studio era as original releases in movie theaters. I have talk to my 83 year old dad about these experiences. This gave me a 'link' to those movies. Well as time marches on the above will no longer be the case. i.e. even the parents of someone, say age, 30, was born after or at the end of the studio movie era. Thus there might be a need, from a market share perspective for TCM to show more movies that were released in the last 40 or so years. Look, Coke messed with their main product and baseball added the designated hitter, wild care playoffs and interleague play. All in the name of increasing market share (of course with new coke it was a major failure).

Yes, the reason I stress Ava in black and white instead of color relates more to when the film was released. Ava didn't age well in my view (too much drinking or fight with frank???), so even by the mid 50s she starts to look worn out to a degree. But yea in the color films she made prior to the mid 50s she looks great. e.g. as Pandora.