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You should also post From The Begining. I would say that is the best Lake guitar song done by ELP. I have learned to play all of these songs. Nice songs. Youtube is great. For each of these songs one can find 3 or 4 people that show you how to play them. Most of Lake's guitar songs are easy but From The Begining has some unique chords.
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I feel the same way about Al. Robert has done some very good work over the last few decades but I do see your point.
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That's impossible and highly unlikely...
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Lake wrote Lucky Man as a teen and I believe never recorded the song with any of his pre ELP bands. ELP needed a song that radio stations would play (the other songs on the LP are anything but), so they decided to play this 3 chord song. While simple the song is nice and Emerson solo at the end elevates the song to another level.
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The book Film Noir (Ward Silver), has all three movies so this book considers them 'noir'. Either way they are all very good movies.
I admit that as much as I love noir as a genre I'm also tired of the 'what is TRUE noir' chats, but I do find noir as a genre reference useful. Like any genre label noir communicates that a movie has *certain* qualities. The folly in the 'true' label is when a movie doesn't have ALL of the qualities people associate with a genre.
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Yea, I'm surprised Finance misunderstood what I meant by 'balanced'. Hey a city can say the ratio of non smoking permits to smoking needs to be 4 to 1. I also don't smoke and smoking really bugs me but I don't see an issue with a ratio like 4 to 1.
As for the employees, yea it would of been best if the law was set like this from the start. This way employees at smoking bars would of had time to get jobs at the non smoking ones and vise versa.
As for cell phone or even loud talking; I don't think it is practical for theater to have seperate areas for people that practice different behaviors. I also don't see many people, even ones that talk on their cell phone 24 7 wanting to watch a movie with others doing the same thing!
As for the original topic here; Drive in theaters; Well that idea isn't any good because cars now all have bucket seats. Some of my best memories was going to a drive in with a date but of we didn't have bucket seats than. But don't ask me what movies I saw, since I don't remember that. Only what took place off screen!
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We can agree to disagree here. Like I said I'm not a fan of the process. I wouldn't buy a DVD for the colorized version.
But if by doing so "the B&W original is restored or preserved" I'll accept the fact they are violating what you define as a principal.
To stand on principal but to allow a work to be lost forever or the quality so poor that enjoyment of the original work is vastly reduced, just doesn't make sense to me.
Again, they are altering something to create something new, not to replace what was originally there. Thus the intentions of the original creators are PRESERVED.
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I agree with your take here. Sorry if that wasn't clear in my other post. Yea, the script is very typical for the time (America in the 30s); Women that 'step out' are,,, (well you know the names), and men, well they are just being men. Very unfair but the good news in that in most cases those times are behind us.
Note that I do not love the character of Scarlett, but I think I'm being fair in that I don't love or respect the character of Rhett or Ashely either. The only one I love is Melanie.
But as I said Vivien Leigh did a wonderful job. Your right that she did add multiple layers. Without those layers there would be little to like about Scarlett, and of course she is one of the all time screen beauties.
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I agree with your take here has it relates to Zimbalist. TV star yes, movie star, no.
But hey those are just labels. Love your last sentence! Is that autographed photo from one of his TV series or a movie promo shot?

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Rhett gets what he deserves by marrying a women he knew didn't love him and instead loved another man. This is why I have less respect for Rhett than I do for Scarlett. While Scarlett isn't 'my kind of gal' she was very open about the type of women she was. Rhett knew this from the very start. He decided to get involved with her anyhow. That is the sign of a fool.
As for 'Ashley does nothing', what should he of done? Got up on the table and said 'hey, we didn't sleep together so lay off'! The issue isn't if they had actual sexual relations. The issue was that a married women was in love with a married man that wasn't her husband.
As for Vivien Leigh; based on some of the comments I see here she has done a great job of making Scarlett more sympathetic than what the script called for. i.e. If one was to outline Scarlett's actions as written in the script on paper, I assume most would have a very negative view of her. The fact some people feel she is a positive character says a lot about Leigh's interpretation.
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I have traded many post with Kyle and I think he does a good job representing what your 'average' TCM fans want; Mostly studio era movies i.e. pre-1968.
But your right that each of us should only speak for ourselves. I don't mind post 68 movies or R rated material but showing those in the morning isn't a wise idea in my view since TCM shows the movies uncut. Of course I like them uncut but why not show them in the evening.
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While I'm not a fan of colorized movies the fact Legend provides a restored original (black and white), version with each DVD is why I support what they are doing 100%.
To me this is similar to a complain many have about remakes; that remakes 'hurt' the original.
Sometimes this is true as when a studio will purchase the rights to the original just to suppress it as a way to increase the marketing value of the remake. Of course that is a practice I do NOT like (but a legal practice that should remain legal never the less).
But as Barry notes, in this case the original is restored and thus it will be available for future generations. That is adding value to us classic movie fans and I don't see how anyone can complain about that.
The only question I would have for Legend is do they make the restored black and white version available to outlets like TCM.
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I'm surprised that Finance hasn't replied with his choices; A Face In the Crowd and North By NorthWest!

My choice would be Laura. But I know why TCM doesn't show that one.
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I searched under Heat Lighting Movie and I found a viewer's comment that mentions The Petrified Forest. I guess one's man hamburger is another man's steak!

After reading several reviews that enjoyed the film, I almost did not write a comment.
However, after reading the one comparing it to a poor man's Petrified Forest, I wanted to say that's just plain unfair.
I, was not around for the New York Times drab review in 1934, like the previous reviewer, but I can form my own opinion. I really liked the movie. Aline McMahon, pulled off the difficult character of playing a woman mechanic/business owner, and Preston Foster played the crook on the lam quite believable for the situation he was in.
I personally wish Ann Dvorak had more of a developed part, I always like her, but sadly hers was the least developed of the several interesting characters in the film. Obviously made on a small budget, it's just unfair to compare this to Petrified Forest. They are not the same film at all.
I'll have to check this movie out since I a big fan of Ann Dvorak.
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Nice pictures. I hope this area didn't get damaged by all of those fires.
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But this vehicle wasnt worthy of their talents........
Hibi, that comment is 100% correct but in some ways this is why I love It's Love I'm After so much. Here we have 3 very fine actors. While Olivia wasn't the Olivia of the late 40s (where some might say she was equal to Davis of the late 30s early 40s), we do have some great talent in the 3 major stars.
So here we have them in a silly movie. It is like I get to see the stars I love just bring silly instead of like the other two Howard Davis pictures. But like I said I'm a sap for this film since I cannot get enough of Howard, Davis and DeHavilland.
Your comment got me thinking of the Powell Loy movies. They made a lot of movies not 'worthy of their talents' in that they were fluff comedies, but to me they are still a hoot to watch even if not as polished as, say, Manhattan Melodrama.
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Well we can agree to disagree here. Most of the story is based on events that happened indoors so I really don't see how outdoor scenes would enhance the story. Instead they would have to be 'add on' scenes that were NOT part of the original story.
To me using The Misfits as a comparison is folly. That story is about horses, a rodeo worker etc. Horses and outside location shots make total sense there.
To spend all of that money for location shooting (which was very, very rare in the 30s), for a film in black and white, just isn't practical. I have been to that area of Arizona many times and it is indeed beautiful but without color that beauty would be masked.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Jul 11, 2012 9:35 PM
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Yes, TCM should show Hold Back The Dawn more often. Olivia really shines in this one as does Boyer and Goddard.
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The Petrified Forest is my favorite movie. I understand your point that the movie have the look of a play but to me that works here because what makes this movie for me is the dialog. This is a movie I could 'watch' with my eyes closed. I'm glad the producers and directors didn't add extra action (e.g. more shooting) or camera 'tricks' that could distract from the interactions between the characters. I have the written screenplay and know every line by heart so, yea, I'm biased!
As for It's Love I'm After. Well l also love this movie but then Davis and Howard are my top two favorites, with Olivia in my top 5 so of course I love this movie. Your point is on target about Davis grounding the movie. Here we have what I believe is the greatest dramatic actress of all time being in a madcap comedy but unlike her performance with Cagney in The Bride came COD, playing it straight. Olivia is over the top but she was so cute at that age, well it works for me! The character actors are also interesting because many of them, like Spring Byington, Bonita Granville, and especially Eric Blore are playing roles they have often play in other movies as straight roles.
I watched all of the Howard movies that night. The last two pre-code ones I hadn't seen before and while they were only so-so, they were interesting to me as a Howard fan.
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What is interesting to me about the Clark Gable line is that Jack Warner would be promoting an MGM star. I'm surprised Jack didn't insist they use Errol Flynn, the best looking Warner star at the time. But maybe Olivia didn't wish to say his name since she was in love with him then????
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I had the same idea of a "smoking licence" bar when states started to ban smoking in bars. To me it is a sound idea as long as the ratio of smoking to non smoking is 'balanced'. While I would never go to a "smoking licence" bar to me the idea is a good compromise between what we have today - all or nothing.
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A movie in the public domain means the public can do what they want with the movie. So I fail to see how changing the content (e.g. colorizing), is some type of 'lower' (scummy) practice. (some of said the process should be outlawed which makes no sense to me).
For the record I don't like the colorizing process i.e. it doesn't enhance my enjoyment of a movie and often distracts from that enjoyment).
But anything in the public domain can be altered and for movies NOT in the public domain if the people with the copyright grant the rights to a 3rd party to alter their work that is their business.
As a consumer I can just avoid that product. The only legit concern would be IF the original work is no longer available. This isn't the case here.
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I really enjoy the 51 version. Any noir crime film with Mitchum and Ryan is a must see in my book. Liz Scott is also surly and the exchanges between Mitchum and her are good.
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Yes "Stella By Starlight" from THE UNINVITED would make my top ten.
Note that I was a fan of this song, since jazz cats love to play it, before I saw the movie.
This is a song I have said I would learn to play for almost 20 years now. It isn't an easy song and I just cannot come up with a guitar version that is any good. Many jazz guitar players have done the song but they play it really fast and not as a ballad. To me that takes away from the sheer beauty of this song. So I just tell myself that playing the song as a ballad only work on the piano. This way I don't feel so bad that I just can't tackle this song.

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What confused me was the wording 'Rosa parks'. At first I said to myself, Darkblue doesn't know who Rosa Parks is?
But now I wonder if use of Rosa and parks (as in parking), was done on purpose or not.