JamesJazGuitar
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It would be great if Robert could have a chat with her related to her being SOTM. I'm not looking for dirt (and Day isn't the type to dish it), but it would be interesting to get her take on some of the films she made.
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I have to assume the main reason would be ease of access to the product as you hint at.
I'm a big green tea drinker since my mom is from Japan. The cost of green tea can really vary. I tend to get the cheaper costing kind but my mom likes the kind that can cost a dollar a cup.
My wife being Italian has to have her coffee. She drinks the espresso. Talk about getting an upset tummy. That stuff is like jet fuel.
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Looks like it is time for you to move on to another alterative. Life is too short to be this upset over something I view as trivial.
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Watching the movie Hotel last night with Merle Oberon and The Lodger the night before also with Merle and than Streetcar made me compare the two.
Hotel was made in 67 and The Lodger in 44. That is a 23 year difference. Oberon didn't really look much older. But Leigh changed so much between GWTW and Streetcar and those movies were only made 12 years apart. It isn't just how Leigh looks per her persona. One can say that this shows just how great of an actress Leigh was. But the first time I saw Streetcar I couldn't tell it was her.
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Your use of Dean and Garfield says a lot to me. I love Garfield but I don't enjoy Dean at all. Watching him is like watching a high school play (and not just because he was young). All I see is an actor, acting.
Garfield is very natural. I'm not a big fan of method acting, in that most of my favorite movies are those where the actors were not method actors. But at the same time there are a lot of movies with method actors that are very, very moving and thus great movies.
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Well people say my wife reminds them of Drew so that might be the reason I see her cuteness. To when Drew smiles she just comes off as very warm. Not a great beauty, but cute in my book.
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The way Kerr played the role and how the director shot it was just the right amount of balance. Just when I felt Kerr's character was about to get too feisty, and thus be a turnoff, Kerr would soften her expression or say a line that reminded you she was good of heart. She was just young and wrapped up in her father's battle between England and Ireland. Even the ending made light of that.
This is the first time I had seen the movie and, being use to the "USA" Kerr (e.g. the Here to Eternity etc..), I was somewhat taken aback by her acting. e.g. the wide eyes, her expressions, the roller coaster emotions. But I keep watching because I couldn't take my eyes off her. All and all a very good movie and one I'm glad I got to see.
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I don't think there is an ideal host. i.e. that concept is folly. But yea, while Drew is good, I'm sure there are others that could do better, but I'm not so sure they would look as cute.
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Well of course even a group of 'experts' will disagree who is 'best' but I don't see how that changes my point. e.g. if a novice can with a 'far out' view of who was best these experts would laugh him out of the room.
If one feel everything is subjective than in a way they are saying that there is NO skill involved in guitar playing (or other art forms), and thus no one can judge who is better or not. I find that folly. Yea, a group of top musicians might not agree on who is best (the number #), but they generally will agree with who are the top in the field without too much variance. Either way I would value their view on who is better or not than someone that has never played an instrument.
Oh, and one never learns all they can especially about something as complex as playing jazz style guitar. e.g. After 20 years I'm just getting comfortable with inversions.
PS: But with movies and movie making I feel it is more subjective, and like I said I lack the technical knowledge.
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I think a lot of people use the term "best" when they really mean their favorite. I agree there is a big difference between these two.
I have a very elite POV when it comes to defining what is 'best". All opinions are NOT equal. To even participate in a discussion of best one has to have a certain degree of knowledge and or qualifications. With best there are technical ways to measure quality and competence and thus use these to compare.
Take guitar playing. I feel I'm more qualified in a discussion of, say best guitar players, since I have played for 20 years, know how to read music, have knowledge of multiple scales, modes, chord voicing etc... A guitar player that only knows one scale cannot be the best by definition.
Everyone can participate in a discussion of favorite and generally all opinions are equal (I say generally because lack of exposure can render someone favorite fairly meaningless).
While movies do have a technical component and thus one can have a discussion of 'best' I think they are more subjective than other things like sports or playing music. Also, since I'm no expect when it comes to movies, I only say what my favorites are.
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I think a valid reason for showing the same movie twice in a month would be because they showed it from 1 - 7 AM the first time. Showing it again, NOT during that time frame would be welcome.
Otherwise, unless it is some special event (e.g. a actor dies and they have a special), they should try to not show something twice in the same month or even quarter.
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I just read most of the post and I expected the direction this topic would go. Showing movies in a history class can be tricky. Fred made this point at the start of this thread; that all movies have a POV. Movies with a real strong POV could be viewed by parents as the teacher trying to influence the student's political beliefs. But of course a teacher can do this without showing movies.
A movie like Inherit The Wind is a movie I would like to show if I was a teacher but I never would because doing so would NOT be the right thing to do.
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Gene was not a very good actress during her early years. The role of Scarlett would of been too much for Gene. Leigh was a lot more experienced and she had done complex roles while working in Britian. Gene's acting got a lot better as time marched on but in 39 she was close to ready for a role like Scarlett.
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I tend to agree with you and I enjoy the movie. I also read the book years before I got into classic movies. I was very surprised a movie of the book was made especially in America of the 40s.
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This is my first reply to this thread since I didn't really know what 'plain' meant as it relates to a man. Yea, I understand what really handsome is (e.g. Grant, Taylor, Flynn, Powers), but not plain.
My wife thinks Cooper is very attractive but not in the category of those above. So is attractive somewhere between plain and handsome? I have no idea. I'm going to stick to only having an opinion on the 'plainest actress' thread!
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Fred, The Breaking Point is considered to be a Film Noir. This genre has a certain darkness to it. I happen to life those type of movies (but I also like a movie with a happy ending).
The ending of The Breaking Point is uplifting even with the fact he lost the use of one arm.
The movie is realistic and it say a lot about human nature. Those are just two reasons I like it so much. Hey, I also love the Bogie version but as Tom has said here, that is a super cool hero version with a lot of the focus on romance. Again, love that also, but there is room in my world for both type of movies.
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Even if Gramps was a big mouth, I think the insurance company would of made the payment. The Duke was a known killer, on the run, who was shooting at many, many people. So Davis and her dad would of just said Gramps was crazy in the head and even the cops and the mob out to get the Duke would back them up. We know the well off women would of backed up Davis (and her husband would of done what he was told! (ha ha)).
I really don't see how this part of the plot would have anything to do with the censors. Yea, I guess one could say the movie promotes a crime (insurance fraud), but since one has to get KILLED to commit this fraud, I don't think there would be a big rush to cash in on that type of fraud. Thus the censors would overlook this as fantasy.
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Yea, Hawks could see he had something special with Bogie and Bacall falling in love and he made changes to the story so there would be more scenes with them. In some ways this hurt the movie and the flow of the story but, then, there was such fire between these two, that in other ways, it makes the movie the classic it is.
While I'm a romantic sap, the interactions between men and women in the Garfield version is a lot more interesting. Every time Garfield is with Neal one is waiting for him to either kiss her or smack her. His wife is understanding, to a point. One can see she wants to stand by her man, but Garfield doesn't make this easy on her.
Garfield did indeed grow as an actor and that is what is so sad about losing him early. Note that Bogie did most of his best work at an age (late 40s) that Garfield didn't even get to. What a loss for classic movie fans.
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I agree it is hard, if not down right very difficult, not to form an opinion, even when one has little knowledge on a subject. Oh, and like everyone else I sometimes fail. But not in this case. The actuations are just too serious here. So I just focus on Joan the movie star, enjoy her movies and what she brought to the art of American film making.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Mar 9, 2012 11:49 AM
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Thanks for some very interesting info. I look forward to seeing The Breaking Point again. I saw it the last time it was on TCM. Of course I have seen Bogie's To Have and Have Not at least 15 times. That movie and The Big Sleep was what got me into classic movies many years ago.
As much as I love the Bogie version I really like the Garfield one. They are so different in so many ways that I can't really say which one I like more. Each movie has a very unique and different appeal. Yes, Lori3 will not be disappointed.
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My wife would say The Adventures of Robin Hood. But that is because she liked Flynn in those green tights.
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Well Frank also must of liked them young. His marriage with Mia Farrow is one of the stranges in Hollywood. Right up there with Cary Grant and Dyan Cannon.
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I understand what Kael was getting at. Hayward gave some good performances in the 50s but often I do get the feeling like she was trying to i.e. that she was trying to hard.
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I find it interesting that everyone isn't agnostic on the topic. For some reason people believe they have to have an opinion. That they have to take a side. Why can't people just admit they don't know and leave it at that?
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I also used to view Harlow as just one of those blonds, but now I have seen more of her films and she is growing on me. I like the ones where Jean is more key. Some of her 'in your face' roles border on camp, but Gable and her do create a lot of energy.