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Just wonder where you are getting your info on the views of "most TCM viewers".
I would assume most TCM viewers are aware of the things you mention since I'm assuming most of them are NOT causal classic (really studio era) movie fans but classic movie lovers to some degree (Ok, not to the degree of us nuts at this message board!).
But I admit I'm also just assuming. I really would be interested in some stats associated with TCM viewers. E.g. how many only watch TCM, say, a few times a month? How many at least 4 times a week? How many everyday (like me), etc.... If TCM isn't a channel in someone's daily rotation, what prompts them to go to TCM? e.g. a specific movie? A TCM theme (e.g. SOTM, 31 Days of Oscar, etc...
So many questions, so little info.
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One of the most sexy scenes ever. The minimal dialogue really makes the scenes. What is left unspoken is best left unspoken. Garfield is hooked even if he doesn't know it yet.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Feb 16, 2012 9:05 PM
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Kiss of Death stars Coleen Gray but it is a very good Mature film.
Arturo mentions The Shanghai Gesture since it stars both Mature and Tierney. It is a film noir also (a very early one), and as noted an exotic and unique early 40s movie.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Feb 17, 2012 8:09 PM
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First as for scene stealer I believe the actor shouldn't be the star of the movie but instead a supporting player. A lead player doesn't steal a scene since, by definiton, a lead should dominate scenes.
So in that regard Ritter is clearly one of the top scene stealers. Even when a movie has a great lead, at the top of her game, like Bette Davis in All About Eve, Ritter steals a scene or two.
I would also add Eve Arden.
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I didn't watch The Last Word that night, but turned off the TV. What shocked me was when I went to turn it back on about 30 minutes later, figuring they must be done with this BS, they were still talking about Houston.
The only thing I have enjoyed about the media coverage so far is that some of the shows are now dishing on her many friends that enabled her death. For example, Morgan on CNN was interviewing some of these friends. They had drinks with her and hey, everything was A-OK. They didn't see any problem there. Then 2 days later Morgan is calling them out for having drinks with her! Now if he would bring back these friends and say that to their face, that would be must watch TV.
I don't watch Newt. His head takes up the entire TV screen (and I have a 60 inch one!).
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I like Tierney a lot because she did play in 4 very good film noirs and a few other movies I like (e.g. The Razor Edge), but she wouldn't be my favorite actress of the 40s (that would be Olivia DeHavilland or Stanwyck). I think her early 40s performances were only OK but she did get better as the decade moved on.
As for being a beauty; No question about that. Right up there with Ava and Hedy. We can only hope TCM gets the rights to show more of Gene's movies. I do have her autobiography. I got a paperback copy at a used book sale for something like 50 cents. Her life story is somewhat sad.
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Nancy Grace is all over this. To me the so called 'news' coverage has been way overboard. The only reason Houston is getting so much coverage is because of her prior (or maybe recent), drug use history. If she had died of brain cancer (some illness NOT related to addiction), it would of been a one day news story.
The news shows just jump on the same bandwagon. While it has been this way for a while all the fuss over Tebow, even after he was losing games and it was clear he was just an OK QB at best, just shows that the vast majority of the media is driven by, and thus promoting, mass hysteria.
Take the political news program The Last Word on MSNBC. They spent over 3/4 of the show on Houston. I can understand an entertainment show like ET doing this, but a political news show??? Sorry, she wasn't that great or important (from a political POV she wasn't important at all).
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And don't forget if there were grandson they might look like Clark Gable. Thus something for everyone! Of course I have no if they were interested in having kids or not.
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Very insightful info. It supports my point that if Lombard didn't die when she did, she might not of continue to as successful as she was (as an actress), in the 30s. This is one of the reasons I mentioned Lupino, who decided to get behind the camera . Lombard might of had kids, which could of impacted her choice to remain a major star, or done many other things other than trying to maintain star status. I think she would of been sucessfull at whatever she did.
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I have seen He Ran All The Way at least twice on TCM in the last 2 years or so. Very good movie. I like how Garfield and Winters work together in this one. Winters has some of that annoying aspect to her (which I still wonder to this day was that just her or was it acting!), but they both give very fine performances.
Your description of Garfield is right on. Similar to the role Bogie would play in movies like High Sierra but Garfield displayed even more vulnerability. It was like one could see his pain (and as we been saying sadly he was feeling actual pain).
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Great Spellbound poster. But since there are multiple pictures of Ingrid why doesn't the poster show a picture of her with glasses? Those glasses are a major prop. Without them she is just another beautiful women, but once she puts those on we all know that she is a serious scientist! (yea right!).
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There is no question about Wilmer and Joel Cairo being gay in The Maltese Falcon. The book makes this really clear but even the 41 version has enough hints to make this clear. Most of these hints relate to Joel but when Spade wishes to make Wilmer the fall guy, the look Joel gives Wilmer says it all.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Feb 15, 2012 6:23 PM
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If you go back to the third reply in this thread Kyle gives provides some useful speculation on why. Of course only TCM staff knows for sure. So TCM use to show it quite regularly? Too bad I didn't see it since I'm been a TCM nut since the begining. Of course as this thread implies maybe I let all the negative views about this film push me to avoid it.
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Well we have 4 in common. My top 10 favorites are: Davis, Stanwyck, DeHavilland, Lombard, Arthur, Kate Hepburn, Audrey Hepburn, Rosalind Russell, Loy and, Crawford.
But like you I'm big fans of the others on your list. Well expect for Ann Harding. I have seen a few of her movies (one with Powell that was very good), but she is somewhat wooden to me. Of course maybe I just haven't see enough of her movies.
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My guess is that this "room full of intelligent people" would pick Stanwyck in Stella Dallas before Dunne in The Awful Truth, but both would beat out Rainer in The Good Earth. That is my honest gut feeling.
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You hit the nail on the head. Part of the theme of the movie was the basic question of 'what is it about this guy that all the teens girls love him', and the answer is that it is just marketing and hype.
It would make no sense for an actual, highly regarded musician or actor, during the peak of their career, to take on that role.
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As you might know by now, Bette Davis is my favorite actress, but I cannot discuss this movie since I have never seen it. It was explained why TCM isn't showing it (and it isn't because of some hidden agenda).
I wish TCM would show it so I could judge it myself (since the vibe about this movie is clearly very negative). But until they do I'm just left with descriptions and reviews of this movie.
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I love all of these great covers The Beatles did. Funny but I'm playing music with a group that plays mostly 50s tunes so we play many of these songs. BUT, I know all of these songs (e.g. Postman, Anna, Really Got a Hold of Me, Baby Its You, etc....), as Beatles songs. (I might of heard the original group but not 14 as often as I have hear the boys do them). The Beatles would do a few things differently (both the chords used, and the singing of harmony).
So the people I'm playing with will say 'hey, that sounds cool, but it isn't how the song was done'. Well to ME it was how the song was done!
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My Valentine Day Song would be Too Marvelous for Words. This song was popular in movies of the 30s and 40s. It is the song used in Dark Passage every time Bogie and Bacall get that look in their eyes.
Here is a link of Frank singing it.
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I think we have to take each year at a time 1936: Both Dunne and Lombard played comic roles (as I'm sure you know), and comedy roles don't get the same juice as dramatic roles (but Colbert won for comedy in 34). George as note was 'middle rank'. MGM put all their backing behind their new major star Rainer (which of course didn't help Shearer as Juliet). Of course I admit bias here; Rainer's role is a secondary (supporting) type role as you mentioned. But the first time I saw her as Anna I was floored. She just impacted soooo much emotion. So I feel she deserved this oscar.
Now 1937 is a very different story. I would of voted for Stanwyck in Stella Dallas, but I can see why Garbo fans have a major beef, since Camille is THE role Garbo is best known for today. Dunne again was in a comedy. So I would agree that someone other than Rainer should of won in 1937.
I have never looked at 36 37 best actress from the POV of "Rainer vanquished five of the best actresses in Filmdom who never won an Oscar". Thanks for pointing that out. I just love it when someone can use 'vanquished' in an intelligent sentence.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Feb 14, 2012 2:34 PM
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The Odd Couple is a great example of the risk the producers take by waiting so many years before having a sequel. Since the Odd Couple TV show was shown a lot as reruns, maybe this helped keep the Odd Couple 'fresh' and thus reduced the risk.
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Yes, I have my own guitar (5 actually) but I cannot grate potatoes and strum at the same time!
But yes, I can hum and grate.
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John wrote some songs a lot more bitter than Norweigen Wood (which isn't bitter at all but of course sleeping in the bath isn't exactly romantic!).
How about sending that special someone; Run for Your Life!
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No since that wouldn't be a good idea. While in movies it is common for the head guy to have gay bodyguards (as a way to ensure an evil femme fatale doesn't get their hooks on them), it make no sense to get too attached to the one in charge of your security. It isn't a good idea to have that close of a relationship with your own bodyguard.
So while Landau does appear interested in Mason and for sure hates Eva, I don't think Mason returned any favors.
Edited by: jamesjazzguitar on Feb 14, 2012 2:12 PM

One of Hollywoods great beauties Gene Tierney
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Based on your post we have very different taste in women (i.e. what women are great beauties).
For example, Ava in Pandora and the Flying Dutchman or her standing by that piano in The Killers. No one ever looked better on film in my view (yes, some, like Liz in that white dress in A Place In The Sun looked as 'hot').
Jolie is one of the most exotic beauties of her era. I don't know 'many' today that top her (Charlize Theron being right up there). But I will admit Jolie has an 'odd' (unique) look (i.e. no girl next door there!), but it is a look that really gets to me.
As for June Allyson; I find her very average and that voice really gets to me.
Yes, it is all subjective and that is a good thing.