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1 hour ago, Shank Asu said:
The Crimson Kimono (1959) Finally watched this. I really liked it. At the end i kept waiting to see if they would actually show a kiss between an Asian man and white woman but then later i saw the film poster and laughed at myself because they were obviously pushing the fact that they do. The ending on the street with the shooting of the woman running down the street seemed familiar to Chinatown's ending. As i've already mentioned in another thread on this film today, Alicia Malone's comments at the end of the film kind of ruined the film watching experience for me.
I'm a big fan of The Crimson Kimono since my mom is Japanese coming to the USA after she married my American father in the 50s. We lived in the area and would go to all the sites in the film; e.g. the Buddhist temple was my mom's temple. I'm not aware of Malone's comments so I have to check those out.
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2 minutes ago, Dargo said:
Okay then, here's what might be another example of why this sort'a thing might be "primal" in its origins.
Say you run into a wild animal somewhere that seems threatening. In order to attempt to scare the thing away, do you think it is more likely to BE scared away by the sound of a loud, deep and resonant voice than it is by a voice that is merely loud?
(...funny, isn't it folks, how a thread that supposed to be about a TCM host has somehow segued into a discussion about what kind of voice is most likely to scare away a wild animal???...hmmm, maybe THIS is why I like spendin' so much damn time on these boards...ya never know WHERE this stuff is gonna lead to!)
LOL
I think this type of voice would scare any animal away more so than a voice like Orson Welles.
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18 minutes ago, Dargo said:
And btw, and in regard to this issue of "voice", AND while the following is sure to sounds as if I am once again "blowing my own horn" here...
I had THREE different passengers in my van who I was transporting between Sedona and Phoenix yesterday, once again tell me that I had a very nice voice and sound as if I should be a "radio announcer".
(...just sayin')
When you worked for the airlines, you were the "voice" that the passengers would hear, correct? I assume so and that everyone liked your voice expect for Kirk Douglas.
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16 minutes ago, Katie_G said:
You may already know this (It's hard to tell when you're serious). Scott Brady was born Jerry Tierney (Lawrence's brother) but changed his name in an effort to disassociate himself from his notorious brother. Seems like a good career move.
Yea, Dargo knew this already and he knew I knew it already.
PS: love your avatar from Too Late for Tears. The film where Scott gets the better of Duryea proving the femme fatale is stronger than the male noir figure, yet again.
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6 minutes ago, Dargo said:
I was just kiddin' here of course, James. Yep, I pretty much figured your participation in those sessions was mandatory for all the employees at your place of business, and as were the ones that became mandatory for all to take when I worked at Northwest Airlines and at the time the issue of "sexual harassment" came forefront during a certain Supreme Court Justice's confirmation hearings.
No, not necessarily, and because if you go back and re-read what I wrote, you will find I made no mention of "gender" in it. And because, and as you yourself mentioned in your previous posting of that female sports announcer who possessed a deep and resonant voice. And so in effect, you yourself admitting that females are capable of possessing such a voice too.
(...and also btw, why do you think you hear so many younger females doing that whole "vocal fry" thing with their voices and which entails an attempt at lowering their voices in order to sound as if what they're saying has more "gravitas" to it?!...are all these, and yes primarily it seems young women, being "sexist"???
I agree that most people are biased toward a deep and resonant voice as being more authoritarian (i.e. most trusting, more likely to take seriously etc..), but I assume this is a learned behavior. I.e. it is not "primal" but learned based on experience. I.e. most announcers had such voices so our expectations were set that this was the "right" (or "best"), voice for the job.
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34 minutes ago, Dargo said:
So James, sorry but I have to ask...
Okay, fess up. Now WHAT in the world did you do OR say in your work environment that caused the people at HR to send you to this session, HUH?!!!
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Yep, most do. It's been proven scientifically that the majority of people have almost a primal inclination to associate a strong, deep and especially resonant voice with that of those in or "should be" in positions of authority, or with those who are more likely to be or become more successful in life.
The company of over 800 employees hired an outside HR consulting firm and everyone is required to participate. This video was only the first step.
It is my understanding the majority of corporations are doing this in either 2021 or 2022.
George Floyd is the reason.
As for "primal inclination": I find that hard to believe; what you're saying is that people were born to be sexist.
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1 hour ago, Shank Asu said:
Voices might be fair game. I read the other day that Clark Gable purposely changed the sound of his voice which after a while became how he naturally spoke.
As for "voices might be fair game": I was listening to my jazz radio station and there was a host I hadn't heard before; she said "I'm going to be your new favorite host"; Well I said to myself NO!!! I didn't like her voice. The pitch was too high and I just didn't like the sound.
But since I just took a work sponsored session on unconscious bias and inclusion, I realized I was being biased. I like deep male, mellow sounding voices for my radio host since that is what I was used to. It wasn't so much what the host was saying or their knowledge of jazz (since this type of host doesn't get to say much anyhow), but just my initial impression of one's voice. So I decided that I wouldn't turn her off but instead see if I could get use to her voice.
My male friends refuse to listen to female NBA announcers but I was able to trick them; I played a game where I knew Doris Burke was the announcer. She has a fairly deep voice so one can't place the gender. She is also very knowledge about the game. So one of them said "I like this announcer, who is he?"! Ah, the earth shifted,,,, slightly.
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1 hour ago, Allhallowsday said:
It is that kind of record for me too... put it on a loop!
JUNE CHRISTY Gone For The Day
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Just to ensure clarity:
I placed the album on a pedal looper which allows one to repeat either the entire song, or just certain parts over-and-over again.
I did this so I could use the album as part of practicing. One just uses the foot to hit the pedal to repeat. (much easier then picking up the needle on a record player and wearing out the record).
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1 hour ago, filmnoirguy said:
The billing was: Olivia de Havilland in Daphne du Maurier's "My Cousin Rachel"
with Richard Burton (below the tile) which, back in the day, automatically put him in the Supporting Category by the Academy.
Where are you getting this "back in the day"? It was my understanding that under the studio-system, the studio would provide the potential nominees as well as the category.
I don't have details about My Cousin Rachel, but it could have been contractual on DeHavilland's part. My Cousin Rachel being somewhat of a come-back film (3 years after winning an Oscar for The Heiress), could have had it in her contract that she was the only leading actor in the film.
Another reason is that the studio felt Burton had a better chance of being one of the limited number of nominees in the Supporting Category verses the Leading one.
I.e. better to have him nominated in that category than no category at all.
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39 minutes ago, chaya bat woof woof said:
Jean Hagen is also in Adam's Rib. From what someone said on the board several months ago, Danny Thomas fired Jean Hagen saying something like she smelled. I first saw her in Singin' in the Rain (she is so funny).
Here is what Wiki has: (nothing about smell):
By 1953, she had joined the cast of the television sitcom Make Room for Daddy. For her portrayal as the first wife of Danny Thomas, Hagen received three Emmy Award nominations but after three seasons, she grew dissatisfied with the role and left the series. Thomas, who also produced the show, reportedly did not appreciate Hagen's departure, and her character was killed off rather than recast, the first TV character to be killed off in a family sitcom.[citation needed] Marjorie Lord was cast a year later as Danny's second wife and played opposite Thomas successfully for the remainder of the series.
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Scott Brady and Glen Corbett.
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1 hour ago, Katie_G said:
I really like He Walked By Night, 1948, starring Richard Basehart. This innovative L.A. noir is in my top ten favorites. It obviously influenced other filmmakers from L.A Confidential to Carol Reed's The Third Man and Jack Webb's Dragnet. Even Basehart's clever, ghost-like quality and self-doctoring of wounds reminded me of Anton Chigurh from No Country For Old Men.
I also like the length of 1 hr. 18 min. Full movie.
Funny but I just watched Gunsmoke and Scott Brady was the guest star. I was trying to remember films he was in and He Walked by Night was one. A fine film as you note.
Brady is likely best known as Joan Crawford's discarded lover in Johnny Guitar; The Dancing Kid.
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10 minutes ago, Katie_G said:
Me neither. lol I had to look it up again and Drive is Bogie/Raft, Live by Night is the Nicholas Ray film with Farley Granger. There's nothing to make that stick in my memory though!
Yea, those two titles tend to confuse folks; Both films are good with They Drive by Night, a WB re-adaptation of the Davis\Muni Bordertown, giving Ida Lupino a chance to go-nuts and chew up the scenery, my favorite Raft performance and the supporting WB contract players like Bogie, Sheridan, Alan Hale, etc..
They Live by Night is a film with a very melancholy vibe, where one roots for the young couple knowing they are doomed from the start.
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15 hours ago, NoShear said:
Earlier forgot to bring full-circle:
Yea, I was going to post the Chet Adkins - Picks on the Beatles album yesterday but got distracted. I had this album that I put on a looper so I could play it over and over again, learning all of the guitar parts. I play many Beatles songs as instrumental songs and I'm sometimes ask; hey, that guitar solo,,,, I don't recall hearing that on a Beatles album; NOPE, it came from this fine Adkins record. I really like what Chet does on I'll Cry Instead and She Loves You.
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47 minutes ago, Aritosthenes said:
Ok.. Call me Stupid and Blind (but Please. Dont Call Me Madam. lol); but Philip Silvers Is In Singin' In the Rain ? ??? "Where", Please. ?
Maybe i myself need to revisit that Musical Again, if nothing else to find out where he's "hiding' ..
Looks like someone confused two different Gene Kelly films; Philp Silvers is in Cover Girl with Rita Hayworth (1944).
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16 minutes ago, HomesoulM said:
Has anyone read his book on the subject published by TCM Books?
Eddie Muller's book is Dark City;
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1 minute ago, Thompson said:
Say what you want about Sterling Hayden, but that dude can die with terrific style, e.g. The Asphalt Jungle that just aired. With the horses nosing around sniffing him. Doll running to get help. There was a fair share of corn in the movie but Jean Hagen was completely sympathetic and moving really. The ending scene ranks right up there with the ending scene in One Flew Over.
I wish Eddie would show the noir Manhandled (1949), with Dorothy Lamour, Dan Duryea, and Hayden. Not a great film but it has its moments especially a death scene with a car. Being a Paramount film, that could be why Eddie hasn't feature it.
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1 hour ago, Katie_G said:
I feel like they'd have no films to show if they started banning every actor who ever said or did something stupid. I don't know the circumstances surrounding Gibson's incident, but he seems to have had some kind of meltdown or personal problems for a while, along with alcohol, which hopefully are in the past. Hollywood seems to have given him a second chance.
What "they" are you referring too? If TCM, I believe you have nothing to worry about; TCM has made it clear that they will not ban, edit or censor culturally sensitive content.
This came up with the series TCM just had about so called problematic films. E.g. some people wished for TCM to remove or shorten the Mickey Rooney scenes in Breakfast At Tiffaney. TCM made clear that they wouldn't do that; that does something like that does not increase cultural awareness.
As for activist and just everyday people complaining about content and wishing companies like TCM would ban (cancel), certain films, actors, directors etc... People have always done that. They are just a lot louder now thanks to social media (well really no-thanks IMO). This can not be prevented or even reduced. All we can hope for is that companies like TCM don't react to their request (and so far TCM is doing that).
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16 hours ago, Dargo said:
Oooh..."overlooked, undervalued or under-appreciated"! Now THERE I think are the BEST descriptors you could have used in your thread's title.
Yes, even better than my "little remembered" one.
(...SEE?!...now if ya would've used any of THOSE, then James probably wouldn't have gotten on his whole "I question your use of the word 'underrated' here, Sir" thing again!)
LOL
The title is fine; I.e. I don't see much of a difference between underrated, undervalued, etc...
All still assume the POV of others. I.e. WHO are those that are undervaluing someone? But hey, I find this thread interesting and fun in that it provides insight in the views of forum members about actors they really appreciate or value, that "others" may not to the same degree.
Related to this, my new year resolution was to not assume who "they are" when someone uses the term "they". I did this because I found out that my view of who "they are" were often a lot different than the view of the person say "they" (or "them"). I do understand that my questions about "who are they" can be annoying!
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20 hours ago, Vautrin said:
I don't know enough about music to judge Clapton's skill as a guitar player, but he is a pretty
decent songwriter.
Clapton helped Harrison become a better guitar player and Harrison helped Clapton become a better songwriter.
At the end of the day, Clapton got the better end of this partnership!
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1 hour ago, Swithin said:
Robert Vaughn's performance in The Young Philadelphians (1959) is one of the great supporting performances, for which he was nominated for an Oscar.
Very fine performance by Robert Vaughn in The Young Philadelphians, but having only one-arm gives one a leg up when it comes to being nominated.
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"Blue Rondo à la Turk" is a jazz standard composition by Dave Brubeck. It appeared on the album Time Out in 1959. It is written in 9\8 time, with one side theme in 4\4, and the choice of rhythm was inspired by the Turkish aksak time signatures.
Yea, rather odd for Western listeners.
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The actress or the hairdo?