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Posts posted by jamesjazzguitar

  1. 10 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

    chaya,  interesting you mention "Porgy and Bess", because I was thinking of posting "Summertime", that great George Gershwin song, which is indeed from "Porgy and Bess" .  It definitely has a noir feel, what with the minor key and the slow tempo  (at least, that's the way it should be sung-- slowly.)  It has a mysterious, yearning quality.  Just a fantastic song.  So many different versions, it's one of those songs many singers want to cover.

    I hate to be kind of "negative" after agreeing with you so strongly about that "Porgy and Bess" song, but I have to disagree with you about the Blondie song "One Way or Another".  (Her name is Deborah Harry, by the way.) Blondie is the name of the band.)   Don't get me wrong, I actually really like that song, in fact I really like Blondie.  But my feeling about "One Way or Another" is it's too upbeat, too catchy,  too kind of happy sounding, to be a noirish song.   (I don't think  a song about a determination to win over a person they want as a lover is necessarily a "noirish" theme. Lots and lots of songs are about that , but most of them  don't have that melancholy, minor-keyish,  unsettled feel that for me is the musical equivalent of noir.)

    edit:  Come to think of it, if we're talking about Blondie ,  "Heart of Glass" is closer to a noir feel.

    According the jazz forum I'm on Summertime is the most recorded song of all time;  over 60,000 different versions.


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  2. 1 hour ago, Bogie56 said:

    This is ho-hum.  It's not going to stick.

    In a way Trump has done himself no favours by being unapoligitcally abhorent for the past four years.   People are numb..  How can he possibly shock us with anything his opponent does or says when Trump  has done it all.

    I wouldn't be so sure.     BLM and other progressive African-Americans are very sensitive.     Again,  like many bitter Bernie Bros,  it isn't that they will vote for Trump but instead not vote at all.



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  3. 4 hours ago, rosebette said:

    I caught Thirty Day Princess and Sabotage.  Thirty Day Princess was delightful, a bit like Lubitsch but with some Preston Sturges thrown in.    I could see the roots of later films that Sturges either wrote or directed.  The scene when one of Nancy's actor friends says "It's the same girl" reminded me of The Lady Eve, which also has a Doppelganger motif, and the idotic fiancee (who also turns up as a Sturges regular in later films) who is thrown off the train with his baggage reminds me of the scene when Henry Fonda jumps off the train after he finds out about Eve's "past."  There's a key scene in the automat, which I think forecasts an even funnier one in Easy Living.  Another treat -- Cary Grant is drop dead gorgeous.  When the princess describes the man she's in love with as having big dark eyes, strong white teeth, and pomegranate lips (Grant's lips do look very kissable in this one), it fits Grant to a T.

    Sabotage is a brilliant Hitchock film and I think much more frightening than some of his slicker Hollywood work.  The scene with boy carrying the package is almost unbearable, as is the later scene when Sylvia begins preparing her husband's dinner.  Everything she is feeling is in her eyes and her hands.  A much underrated actress.

    I saw Thirty Day Princess for the first time and yes,  it was a delightful and enjoyable film.    Great overall day of films.    Have been a fan of Sylvia Sidney ever since I saw Dead End 30 or so years ago.    

    For me Dead-End is the best film of it's kind,   having the girt normally associated with Warner Bros films of that era (Goldwyn being the Producer),     elevated by Wyler's direction and Gregg Toland's cinematography.       (and of course first rate acting by the leads and the 'contained' Dead-end kids).



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  4. 3 hours ago, TheCid said:

    Actually Biden was somewhat accurate in that the African-American community has spent decades developing a unified message of what it wants.   While the Latino community also has unified issues, they also have a more diverse background.  Partially based on where they or their ancestors originated before coming to U.S.  Cuban-Americans and Mexican-Americans are different and their politics are different.  After all many Cuban-Americans are Republicans and support Trump.

    Poor choice of words?  Absolutely, but intelligent, objective people would understand his point.

    I once worked in an Army office where we had two Latino NCO's.  They frequently spoke to one another in Spanish, but they also admitted they had difficulty understanding each other's "Spanish" sometimes.  One was from Puerto Rico and one was from Southwest.


    Biden wasn't accurate about the current policy positions and more importantly the acceptable methods to get there within the African-American community.    Instead Biden's comment was dated.       I.e.  it reflected the Dem party establishment view from 15 or so years ago.     The methods and policy positions of BLM etc... are vastly different than those of African-American leaders from Obama's generation (and older).

    Biden needs the African-American community to vote-as-one but misguided comments like this (at best),   may cause younger African-Americans to sit out the election.  

  5. 51 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

    Sorry you were deprived of that, but my guess is Hitch felt he'd shown enough, and each individual viewer could imagine Rains' grisly fate horribly in their own heads.

    I have always assumed that after Rains' character was killed that the entire gang was attested by US and Brazilian authorizes.      These authorizes now knew where the mine was and were going to raid that,  so there wasn't any reason to let the gang continue on.      I.e. their fate wasn't that much better than Rains.



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  6. 1 hour ago, Dargo said:


    Well, as Dave just said here Vautrin, people DO collect all kinds of things, and so I suppose our making fun of this probably isn't right.

    Nope, but STILL I ask, wouldn't every time someone who purchased one of these "2020 Election Chess Sets" and began playing chess with it in later years, just be constantly reminded of how back in 2020 they had to hold their nose while they voted for one of these two turkeys???

    (...well okay, not in YOUR case here of course, Vautrin ol' boy!) ;)


    When this was mentioned before I was curious aboutthe percentage that ordered this that leaned-left verses leaned-right.

    Such a Chess Set might be a hit with Trump supporters.     He did win in 2016 so even if he loses in 2020 they would still have this set to remind themselves and their Dem leaning friends (if they still have any!),  that Trump did beat Clinton.    AND when they get the Dem King (Biden),  and Queen (V.P.),   they can decide to NOT use them and just use the non-named King\Queen that comes initially.

    Trump supporters are suckers,  so I can see them buying this. 

  7. 33 minutes ago, sagebrush said:

    Happy centennial birthday to Ella Raines, born August 6th, 1920!


    This got me thinking;  is there stats on the number of covers any one person (especially actors)  had for LIFE?   

    I admit I'm somewhat surprised by this selection in February 1944.    Raines was in 5 films that year; 3 film noirs (well early in the cycle so some might not consider them to be noir),   a western and the Sturges' film Hail the Conquering Hero.     BUT I assume most of these weren't released yet only 2 months into the year.

    She just started to make films in 1943,   her first film was  Corvette K-225 (one I never heard of ) and her second the ensemble film Cry Havoc  which feature many well established actresses like Sullivan,  Blondell and Sothern.       I believe she was under contract with Universal at this time.    Their PR wings did well getting her feature.




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  8. 8 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

    Ha ha ha. I did notice there was another Stanwyck starring role very soon after her day. There has been overlap like that in previous years. I think forcing an overlap like this would limit the range of performers who could be selected. I don't mind if it occurs randomly.

    I agree about the "limit the range of performers" point,  since such an overlap could lead to too much focus on actors under contract with WB, MGM or RKO,   the main studios TCM features but it might be a nice challenge for the programmers;    E.g.  feature an actor that did most of their films for WB,  but the next day a Columbia star;  Finding a film both of these actors were in might not be that easy (when compared to if the next day was also a WB actor).

    Stanwyck and other free lancers,  like Cary Grant,  would get more opportunities as the so called "bridge'".     E.g. Christmas Connecticut is a WB film which is why Greenstreet, Cuddles,  Dennis Morgan etc... were in it since they were all WB contract players.




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  9. 1 hour ago, Bethluvsfilms said:

    We'll have to agree to disagree on A PLACE IN THE SUN, I think it's a fine movie.

    But  I did give AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY a chance, and I really liked it a lot. I do think Sylvia Sidney is a lot more sympathetic as the poor girl than Shelley Winters, I'll grant that. And Phillips Holmes is excellent as well. 

    They should show TRAGEDY a lot more frequent.

    Bummer that I missed An American Tragedy;   so how does the young man 'come off' in this version?   As noted in another post;  "Portraying his actions in a way that are ambiguous enough that we feel sorry for him and he becomes a tragic, romantic figure",  or as more of a self-centered man that killed the girl he got pregnant because she was an inconvenience to his future plans?



  10. 41 minutes ago, TheCid said:

    Biden and the Democrats have already committed to three debates with Trump, if Trump is willing to do it.  Big question is will Trump behave himself and act like an adult?  He never has before.

    Isn't the actual big question how undecided voters will respond to Trump-being-Trump?     As most of us know,  the odds of Trump changing and thus acting like an adult (as well as NOT lying,   NOT making racially charged comments,  insulting women,  etc....),   are .000001%.     

    Most of the MSM will call out Trump on these items post the debate and even Fox will have a few,  like Wallace,  that will as well.     My biggest concern is that Biden will "take the bait" Trump will offer him,  and go "far-left"  as it relates to defunding of police,  violence protests,    and other issues like a minimum-guaranteed-income etc..  


  11. 4 hours ago, TheCid said:

    Regardless, a Republican president did not end the Cold War, the Russians did.

    As for the national debt, it has increased far more dramatically under just 3 years of Trump than it did under 8 years of Obama.  ALSO - and most important.  Presidents do NOT create debt, Congress does.  AND the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress for last six of Obama's eight years.  So Republicans created the debt under Obama.

    In addition, a major part of the national debt is the interest that accrues and the interest that accrued under Obama was created by the massive debt/borrowing under Reagan and both Bushes.

    The current national debt and deficit were massively increased under Trump because of large tax cuts for the wealthy and corporations.  Coupled in by enormous spending on Defense, Veterans Affairs and Homeland Security.  Of course, the Dems bear part of the blame for this, but Trump, McConnell and the GOPers that controlled the House and Senate pushed it hard.

    Well said;    I believe a lot of this discussion is based on the foolish assumption that a President is a King;  I.e.  overstating their power and influence.      (not by you who understands the limits and balance of power between the branches).

    E.g.  Fox News latest attempt to help Trump get re-elected;   To claim that "Ok,  Trump has flaws,,, he has issues,,,",   BUT,   while Biden has traditionally been a "moderate",   Biden will put into place all of these far-left policies because he has to appease the far-left wing of the Dem party;   (yea,  Biden will govern like A.O.C.!,,  so run for the hills!!!!).

     Laura Ingraham listed a bunch of items,   like the Green New Deal,  defunding of police departments,   releasing almost everyone from prison, etc... and finally,  reparation. 

    NOT!    A President can't implement these (especially defunding of police) and even if the Dems get a majority in the Senate,   there will still be enough Dem moderates in both the House and Senate that none of these items would pass and if the bills were too-far left Biden would likely veto them.       



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  12. 9 hours ago, CMM said:

    Would it not have been a cool idea to have a day of S.Z. "Cuddles" Sakall films transition to Ann Miller's day by airing "Small Town Girl" after "The Student Prince"?  I know the latter film was Sakkall's last, but the former film was his second to last, so I do not think it would have made any difference.  Instead you made "Small Town Girl" the Last Ann Miller film of her day and she is barely in it.


    There have been times over the years I have watched TCM where I noticed this before - having one star's day of films that could be handed off to the next star's day by putting a film they both star in in between those days.


    Please consider doing so, when possible, in the future.

    That is a niffy idea and I also considered this when my wife saw Stanwyck in Christmas in Connecticut as part of Cuddles day.   She asked,  is it her day again????

    BUT as you know,  these films would be on very late or very early (depending on if one is on the west coast or east coast).      E.g. did the programmer show Small Town Girl in that time slot as the last-film,   because she was hardly in it?


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  13. 28 minutes ago, TheCid said:

    Good idea, but moderators would have to have an immediately available source "document" and recognize that the statement was probably a lie.  It especially would not work with Trump because he will lie about things other than what the moderators asked.

    Basically, Biden has more to lose than Trump.  You can bet the RNC and Trump Campaign will have lots of recording devices aimed at Biden full-time.  Then they will select the worst facial expressions, comments, pauses and whatever to use in their ads.

    The more basic problem for Biden is that his moderate stances will get more media coverage and that can only hurt him.   So far the progressive wing of the Dem party has been mostly silent with regards to their disappointment with the old-white-establishment-guy,    letting activist do the talking,  with the backdrop that these activist don't represent the Dem party as a whole.   

    E.g.  if Biden is asked about defunding of police departments;   for a moderate politician like Biden that wants to ensure he doesn't upset any part of the fragile Dem coalition that requires a lot of nuance.     For Trump such a question is just what he wants since he doesn't have to provide any nuance,  just the talking-points of "I'm for law and order, and the police are an important component to ensure this,  and as we see in Dem run cities,  that isn't happening".

    Of course Biden could go-left,  saying what BLM,  A.O.C.  etc.. want to hear but then the moderates would be the one squawking the next morning.


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  14. 16 minutes ago, Davehat said:

    She commented “I still have not found my William Powell.  Maybe some day,” in the outro to his movie The Thin Man


    Correct.  You wouldn't have created this thread  otherwise.    What about my recommendations for a great evening?    To me going to Laguna Beach is better than going to L.A. 

    Like I said one can go to the beach and cove where a few studio-era movies were made during the 30s and  40s.


  15. 16 hours ago, Tricieg said:

    I would love to see this pre-code  movie  that I saw a long time ago called  "Three Broadway Girls" aka "The Greeks had a name for it".  It was very racy and hilarious.

    Sadly there doesn't appear to be a high enough digital copy of 3 Broadway Girls and thus TCM wouldn't show the public domain versions.   This from Wiki:

    "The failure of the original copyright holder to renew the film's copyright resulted in it falling into public domain, meaning that virtually anyone could duplicate and sell a VHS/DVD copy of the film. Therefore, many of the versions of this film available on the market are either severely (and usually badly) edited and/or of extremely poor quality, having been duped from second- or third-generation (or more) copies of the film".

    But yea,  Joan Blondell,  Ida Claire,  pre-code -  sounds like a winner! 


  16. 39 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

    I doubt very much that a "moderator" can be an effective tool against the lies of one of the debaters.  This isn't a Chris Wallace interview.  They have to appear impartial.

    In a later post you said that it is up to the debater to do his own work which is usually the way it turns out.  No one called Mitt Romney on his bold faced lies when he was debating Obama.

    But It will be, what it will be.  :D

    Why didn't Obama call out Romney for his bold faced lies?    (if they were really as bold faced as you claim).    If Obama didn't have the debate skills to do so,   I would assume Biden doesn't.

    I.e. they are not professional debaters,  just politicians.   

  17. 24 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

    Well JAMES, Trump is gonna have to do more than the "shuck'n'Jive" tap dance that he's relying on to get him through the pandemic and even then ain't working too well for him.

    I agree and a solid performance at a debate or two,  or Biden having a major meltdown (memory loss,   looks very confused,   major misstatements),   could help put Trump back on track.

    This is why if I was advising Biden I would avoid any debates.    Again,  no upside for Biden.    Just continue on course.   A course that I"m predicting will get Biden to around 300 EC voters (with 270 needed to win).


  18. 14 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

    Judging by the unmitigated stupidity of what Trump has been saying in public and in interviews lately I figure the "fear" is coming from the right.("It is what it is.") 

    Y'all gotta quit relying on reports by "newscasters" lacking valid credentials that broadcast live from Mom's basement.  ;) 


    Fear is coming from both sides,   but it is Trump that needs something big to change what looks to be sure defeat,  and therefore it is Trump that needs a debate much more so than Biden.


  19. 1 hour ago, Swithin said:

    There was a case last time -- I forget which or whose debate -- when a moderator corrected a verifiable fact. The moderator got in trouble, though.

    Actually, just looked it up. It was Candy Crowley correcting Mitt Romney. (Btw, where is Ms. Crowley these days?)

    "Conservative critics have launched an attack on CNN Chief Political Correspondent Candy Crowley, who moderated Tuesday's second presidential debate, after she corrected former Gov. Mitt Romney's claim that President Barack Obama did not refer to the consulate attack in Benghazi as an "act of terror.""

    It wasn't a verifiable fact as Crowley later admitted.


  20. 4 minutes ago, Swithin said:

    Perhaps one way to have effective debates would be to have both candidates agree that, if either of them utters an obvious lie, the moderators should serve as on the spot fact checkers and would be able to correct the speaker.



    Come on,  in such a partisan event there is no such things as independent fact checkers and thus so such concept as 'obvious lie'.     Instead it is up to the debater to call-out when their opponent lies,  but that would require Biden memorize facts and that is what the real concern here is.  


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