JarrodMcDonald
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Thank you. That's what I love about these message boards. So many people with such vast knowledge of the Hollywood star system. Very cool.
I knew about Jeanette MacDonald and Blossom Rock...but not the others.
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I just looked up TURTLE DIARY on wikipedia. Seems interesting...
I think THE WHALES OF AUGUST would have to be screened the way I initially suggested...with early films of each of the four principal actors. You would really get a sense of the history of them, not only as actors, but as people who have lived.
Or you could use it at the end of a retrospective on Gish's career, since it lasted 75 years. She was constantly active, involved in one prestigious film project after another. It's interesting to look at how she evolved from silent film ingenue, to star in early talkies, to middle-aged character actress, then to revered legend in her final years.
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Thanks...I did think of the Beerys yesterday and forgot to include them.
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Maybe THE WHALES OF AUGUST would go with DRIVING MISS DAISY, tho I would rather put DAISY with FRIED GREEN TOMATOES and USED PEOPLE.
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Interesting, thought-provoking pairings.
Do you think there are some films that are partner-less?
THE WHALES OF AUGUST seems so different...I would be hard-pressed to find another suitable title to go along with it, thematically. I guess you could show an early Gish film; an early Davis film; an early Sothern film; and an early Price film.
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Sounds good...I keep adding to my to-see list.
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No I have not. I've heard of it, of course, but have not watched it. I should.
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INDISCRETION aired twice (on the same night) in January...it is scheduled for Feb 24 and March 25. That is four showings in the first quarter of 2010. This film will give SOME LIKE IT HOT a run for the MOST OVERPLAYED award.
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Supposedly there's a longer version with an additional twenty or so minutes...but I have a feeling it was cut due to censorship problems in the U.S. Perhaps there's a full-length European version of it. I don't know if I would be willing to sit through another minute of it, however!
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Now you two have whet my appetite for it. I am still comprehending 3300 performances. That's an extraordinary run for a play. Critics schmitics. It's the public and what it wants that producers care about.
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Sounds interesting...the Gekko stuff. We'll see if it's a hit or not.
I would only watch JEWEL OF THE NILE again if I were doing a thematic viewing of Douglas/Turner/DeVito. I would sandwich it between STONE and ROSES.
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You are right about JEZEBEL & GONE WITH THE WIND. I am surprised nobody else mentioned that.
I would put RED DUST with CONGO MAISIE or MOGAMBO. But TORRID ZONE works.
TOPPER RETURNS & TURNABOUT, since both are Thorne Smith stories and feature Carole Landis.
I like BLANDINGS with GEO WASHINGTON. You could also add THE EGG AND I or PLEASE DON'T EAT THE DAISIES.
STELLA DALLAS & TO EACH HIS OWN is a good pairing. Also: THE SIN OF MADELON CLAUDET & MADAME X.
I would put GILDA with AFFAIR IN TRINIDAD, as both star Glenn Ford & Rita Hayworth and have a similar plotline.
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I liked WAR OF THE ROSES (a lot in fact). I did not like JEWEL OF THE NILE...awful! And BLACK RAIN was not one of my favorites, either. WONDER BOYS was okay. I am curious about the WALL STREET sequel, but my question is why???? What is the purpose of it? Is there that much of a connection between what happened economically in 1987 to what is happening now? Maybe/maybe not.
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DEAD RINGER is directed by her NOW VOYAGER costar, Paul Henried.
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You're right...the opportunities/scripts were different in his father's time than in his.
But I think we're going to remember Michael Douglas for:
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST
ROMANCING THE STONE
WALL STREET
FATAL ATTRACTION
BASIC INSTINCT
Some of his more mediocre films will become frequently shown 'classics' in decades to come:
THE WAR OF THE ROSES
FALLING DOWN
THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT
A PERFECT MURDER
TRAFFIC
THE GHOST AND THE DARKNESS (one of my favorites, actually)
And others will be completely forgotten.
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Agreed...Beatty is not convincing as an Italian. But all the ethnic stuff aside, I like his portrayal, because I think he is not afraid to delve into the sexual and psychological layers of the character. This establishes a theme for him throughout his career. A lot of male actors are busy playing the tough guy or the hero and they don't really look at the sexuality of their characters like Warren Beatty does. They do love scenes (or sex scenes, whatever you want to call it), but they play it like a conquest...they don't absorb and play back what it means for the man to be defined sexually by his acts with women. Warren Beatty does that in THE ROMAN SPRING OF MRS. STONE.
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I think a lot of the second and third generation 'stars' sort of ride on their parents' coattails. Or maybe their accomplishments are always eclipsed by their parents.
Beau and Jeff Bridges have each had long careers. Mariska Hargitay is very successful, not on film, but in television.
Michael Douglas' legacy is probably equal to his father, Kirk's.
In the case of Jane Fonda and Drew Barrymore, they are both talented and had something to prove (to their fathers, ironically). They are driven toward success. Jane became a producer, so she gained power behind the scenes like Drew has done.
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Edgar Bergen and Candice Bergen, father & daughter.
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Thanks!
I wouldn't exactly say Hollywood is all about nepotism...but it does seem like there are many acting families and the tradition is for many sons and daughters to follow in their parents' footsteps, and for younger siblings to do so, too. It's interesting.
Of all these, I think Jane Fonda is probably the most successful second generation Hollywood star. Her legacy is about equal to her father's. A lot of the others do not attain the level of success that their parents did. Either they are not as talented or did not get as many lucky breaks in the biz.
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Thanks, cee. I forgot about Nanette Fabray and Shelley Fabares, and Warren Beatty and Shirley Maclaine. I did not know about Dana Andrews and Steve Forrest. Thank you for adding all this information.
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Add to the list:
Raquel Welch & Tahnee Welch, mother and daughter
Jayne Mansfield & Mariska Hargitay, mother and daughter
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Okay, great. I have not seen TOBACCO ROAD yet.
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Thanks.
If you wanted to focus on a Bette Davis theme, she plays twins in both:
A STOLEN LIFE
DEAD RINGER
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And I forgot Joely Fisher, daughter of Eddie Fisher and Connie Stevens.

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I think Loretta Young had two sisters in show biz. They appeared with her in THE STORY OF ALEXANDER GRAHAM BELL, playing her sisters in the movie. I don't remember their names. One of them was married to Ricardo Montalban.