ElCid
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The description for The Wonderful Country in Now Playing Guide is not quite accurate. Close, but a little misleading
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It is Bob's 100th birthday tribute as well.
I watched Crossfire the first time this morning, and it's pretty good. You know who the killer is halfway through the movie, but it's intriguing to see the mystery unfold. Robert Young and Robert Ryan do a good job as well.
I don't know how the rest of you feel about SUTS so far, but Bob's day is the best so far.
I actually do not like SUTS, but this year it is not as bad as in past years. Of course, days such as today will make it good. Even though I have most on DVD, I still watch some and it is great that others who may not be familiar with these Mitchum shows get to experience them.
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As that's today, and they showed a ton of his stuff yesterday, I wonder if they're gonna keep it up. I only check the schedule daily by my cable "grid" to see what's coming up and have to guage my ability and opportunities to figure out if I can TAKE the time to see anything. In other words, I can't always plan ahead. Not in my current situation.
Sepiatone
Actually today is Mitchum's SUTS day.
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It isn't a TCM forum, but a separate website run by jazz guitar pros for jazz guitarist. Great site for amateurs like me since the pros give free lessons and advise. In addition a lot of pros participate in the chat forums. Also, very few trolls or politics. Just mostly warm and friendly folks interested in the art of jazz guitar playing and jazz music.
Thanks, but I will PM you.
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The topic Crime and jazz can be found at the Jazz Guitar forum. Here is some info from there:
There are two albums; Crime Jazz - Music in the First Degree, and Crime Jazz - Music in the Second Degree. These albums feature songs from noir films and T.V. shows
Mundell Lowe recorded a couple of LPs TV Action Jazz, now available on one CD. This features the theme songs from various crime T.V. Shows like Peter Gunn, The Thin Man, 77 Sunset Strip, Naked City, and M-Squad as well as other crime \ noir songs.
Everything else is either movie or TV show soundtrack albums like:
Shelly Mann and his Men Play Peter Gunn.
Lalo Schifrin - Music for the Film Bullitt.
Thanks. Is that a TCM forum (I can't find it). I googled Jazz Guitar Forum and came up with a lot of sites with a lot of threads.
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Boca,
Just to let you know, I had to request a replacement copy for the July issue. Called it in on 6-22, and it arrived on 7-12. This spanned the 4th of July weekend, so maybe yours will arrive more quickly.
In the meantime, you can go to summer.tcm.com to see the info for the Summer Under the Stars programming coming up. I think we are still waiting for the August Now Playing newsletter e-mail as well.
The SUTS web site has fancy graphics so you have to click around to find what you want. I'm sure most of us subscribers prefer the magazine too, but c'est la vie.
My understanding on the email issue is that if you received a printed NPG for August, you will not get an email until the Sept. issue.
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I did not get mine and I think I applied again. Whom do I contact?
God. There used to be a toll free number for NPG, but it is not listed in the August issue. Wouldn't help as it used to take them a month or more to get a replacement issue sent.
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TomJH posted the theme from Farewell My Lovely (thanks) on another thread and got me to thinking.
Has anyone ever done a compilation type CD (or vinyl) of the music of Film Noir?
Not individual soundtracks from each movie, but maybe the themes or better music from several. Sort of the way Perch Faith, Ray Coniff and others used to do.
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TomJH posted the theme from Farewell My Lovely (thanks) on another thread and got me to thinking.
Has anyone ever done a compilation type CD (or vinyl) of the music of Film Noir?
Not individual soundtracks from each movie, but maybe the themes or better music from several. Sort of the way Perch Faith, Ray Coniff and others used to do.
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I love the stylishness of Murder My Sweet, along with it Dick Powell's insolence and his beautiful throwaway delivery of pungent one liners. Powell's line delivery is, for me, one of the great joys of late '40s noirs but he never appeared in a better one than MMS.
In Farewell My Lovely Mitchum is an aging knight of the streets who has seen it all and then some. He's tired and cynical but will, in his slow moving ancient way, still come through for someone if needs be. His Marlowe is like an old battleship that can still sail despite its battered appearance and possesses a certain aged majesty.
Both films are rich in atmosphere, but the mood of FML benefits immeasurably, as you stated, Cid, from David Shire's lovely, melancholy musical score, highly evocative of lonely nights in the big city.
We're fortunate that TCM frequently broadcasts Murder My Sweet. Here's hoping that one day Farewell My Lovely will join it there.
Although I like Claire Trevor, I really thin Charlotte Rampling nailed the role in FML.
I recorded it off Flix a few years back.
Thanks for posting the theme again. Like the picture - a sexy broad looming in the background (in his mind?), drink in one hand, gun in the other and cigarette hanging off his lips.
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HIS KIND OF WOMAN is an awful lot of fun, I think it was the first official instance of Vincent Price taking HAM to the next level (and he never really came back to earth after this one.)
And I guess we're never going to see FAREWELL, MY LOVELY (75), it must be stuck in the rights issue hell or something.
Ironically Murder My Sweet was on last night as part of Claire Trevor showings. IMO, Farewell My Lovely with Mitchum is far superior to MMS. Both based on Raymond Chandler's book. I recorded FML some time back, but not sure from where, but no commercials. The music in FML is by David Shire and really sets the mood/tone for the period.
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His Kind of Woman. Aside from the title which I liked, I also liked the idea of Mitchum, Jane Russell and Vincent Price being paired together in a film.
Raymond Burr plays the heavy. Vincent Price is excellent in this one.
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I'll be recording When Strangers Marry (1944). It's one of the few Mitchum movies that I haven't seen.
Doing the same as I have never seen it either.
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Mitchum is featured on Sunday, Aug 6 SUTS.
Few of my favorites are:
Holiday Affair, light Christmas movie improved by Mitchum;
His Kind of Woman, a really good, light mystery movie;
The Wonderful Country, different kind of western made really good by Mitchum's laid back performance;
Out of the Past;
Thunder Road, written by Mitchum and he wrote and sings the title song;
The Enemy Below, good performances by Mitchum and Curt Jurgens in a different kind of war movie. Discussed in another thread (Submarine movies).
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The Enemy Below has always been one of my favorite submarine movies, although I actually do not like most war movies and especially naval movies.
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It helps if you include a date in the title as "tonight" is no longer valid the next day.
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Here's are two "25 words or less" descriptions of the rise and fall of the Production Code in Hollywood, which should give you some insight into censorship of Hollywood films.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Picture_Production_Code
In one way, the Production Code was a response to maintaining the commercial interests of Hollywood films. In many areas of the country, local censorship boards, usually church-based in nature, would cut up or even refuse to show films with "objectionable" content. (See the Production Code list of "Do's and Don'ts".)
Another powerful group behind this was the Catholic (later National) League of Decency, representing the interests of the Roman Catholic Church in regards to Hollywood films.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legion_of_Decency
These are the "encyclopedia" entries of censorship in Hollywood. A number of books have been written on the subject, and can be found in the bibliographies of the two entries.
Personally, I kind of prefer films made under the Production Code. Nowadays, just about anything goes in films. The Code required filmmakers to be creative and inventive in finding ways around it. Hitchcock did it with the kissing scene in Notorious. The Code required that Cary and Ingrid kiss for no longer than three seconds. So they continued to kiss multiple times with a break every three seconds for some dialogue.
Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers in one of their films took a cigarette break after a particularly romantic dance scene. In other words, "was it good for you too?"
Very informative, but the OP's question was in regard to why The Hot Box term was not censored. As I explained, at the time the expression was not the euphemism that it is today. The term met the Code standards.
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On the topic of censorship, we've discussed what Hitchcock had to do in 1959 to get a relatively tame line from the movie 'North by Northwest... "I never make love on an empty stomach"... past the censor board, and compared that to what Hitch was able to get away with in filming a bedroom scene in 1960's 'Psycho'.
With that in mind, I wonder about something I saw last night in the 1954 musical, 'Guys and Dolls'... a film based on the Broadway musical. The name of the burlesque dance hall was The Hot Box Club. Relating the term 'hot box' to burlesque girls, only one meaning immediately comes to my filthy mind... and I cannot imagine how it could not be censored back in the '50's. Perhaps it was because the club name had already been used in the stage show, or the term had a cleaner meaning back in the '50's, one I'm not aware of, or maybe because it did not refer to a specific intimate act between characters. Could someone shed some light on this?
The meaning of terms changes. One of first Falcon movies was The Gay Falcon and no way was Gay Lawrence "gay" as now used.
Nor were the Gay 90's about homosexuality.
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I, too, truly dislike "Vertigo" and always have. Yes, the musical score is sublime, the locations are beautiful and the shooting is fine. My problem is that there are no characters you can even remotely like in this film and that's a big problem to me. James Stewart plays a bizarro, dysfunctional JERK who first obsesses over Madeleine, then completely loses it when he cannot save "her," then obsessively "makes over" Judy in Madeleine's image. Madeleine/Judy is a bit more sympathetic of a character but the fact that she lets men control her so completely (first Elster, then Scottie Ferguson) makes her incredibly weak and more than a little crazy, too. Barbara Bel Geddes (clearly the only grownup in the room) is also portrayed as a weirdo who wants to "mother" Scottie Ferguson in a very creepy way. We all know that Hitchcock had his "issues" regarding women, particularly his leading ladies, and professed to "make them over completely" much as Scottie Ferguson does Judy. Every time some self-proclaimed "expert" gushes that that "Vertigo" is Hitchcock's best or, even worse, "The Best Film Ever Made" I feel a desperate urge to throw things at the screen (or at the very least, melt down Carlotta's tacky necklace!)
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Haven't watched in forever because I don't like it. Only redeeming value for me is James Stewart's '56 De Soto Firedome Sportsman.
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Finally watched the ones I recorded. I'm really not into hot rods or racing. Did enjoy The Fast and the Furious though. Interesting to learn that producers of current F&F series had to pay Roger Corman a licensing fee for use of title.
Most interesting to me was Hot Cars. The '56 Chrysler Newport that Joi Lansing drove has always been a favorite of mine. Always find it interesting how they sometimes mention cars by name and other times studiously avoid it. In beginning of Hot Cars, they mention the Chrysler, another Chrysler and an MB, but call the Mercedes-Benz SL an $8,000(?) sports car.
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Greatest year ever - I was born.
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The August cover is probably already done but it should have all the past covers in miniature, thumbnail size that can fit.
Many years ago, Playboy had a fold-out inside with all the previous covers in miniture size. I think it was 20th or 25th anniversary. They also had a fold-out with miniture picutues of the centerfolds.
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Received my final issue today and my thanks to TCM as well.
It really is a shame that all periodical publishing as we know it is vanishing. Coming generations will not be able to appreciate the joy of actually holding a beautifully written and illustrated magazine in your hands. Digital is just not the same.
Received my final issue yesterday (finally). For once looks like SUTS will be a decent month.
Whenever I go grocery shopping I check out the magazine racks, which are getting smaller. In my area, there are about four auto magazines, 10 or so women's fashion ones, several fitness ones, several home type ones, etc. But always 15-20 gun/hunting related magazines.
Not only can you hold a magzine (or book), but you can make notes in it, keep it, refer back to it in the future, etc. In addition, the quality of the pictures is far superior to anything available on a screen.
Daily newspapers are also an endangered species.
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Well ****. That's **** good **** news.
**** glad yu **** told us!
Sepiatone
Speaking of ****, I was amazed the first time I watched Veep (HBO series). I'm sure somebody must have counted how many times it was used in the first several episodes.
As for this movie, not so sure I can accept a bunch of 70+ old men playing gangsters. Depends on how they are portrayed I guess. Of course, each of them will have a 25-45 year old girlfriend or wife.
Robert Mitchum, Aug. 6
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Great shows. Would probably purchase the DVD sets, but then they are too long.