ElCid
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Mystery solved. McGuerins From Brooklyn is about 45 mins. long and was essentially last part of Two Knights From Brooklyn, but with about three 2 min. segments inserted and about 20+ mins. deleted. Two Knights is about 1 hour and 12 minutes.
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11 minutes ago, David Guercio said:
I wonder what LA Noir will be like? It sounds cool. I’m so excited.
What is LA Noir? Did I miss something?
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5 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
I didn't get to watch it yet, though I have seen it before. My impressions of the film based on memory was that it seemed a bit too lavish (from it's description as being about a dance hall hostess who acts as a decoy) for a taxi dance barn.
Do we actually ever see Lucy working at her job?
My lingering memory of this film is Lucy and Sanders sitting at a table that looks like a set of a fancy nightclub. Taxi dance joints were pretty sleazy. I checked one relic out, Majestic Ballroom Dancing, in the mid 60s down on Times Square and if you've seen Killers Kiss or the one depicted in The Rat Race it was the spitting image of those.
Long stairway up to a second story anteroom with a ticket booth, a turnstile to the ballroom proper which looked pretty chintzy, sort of on a high school prom level.
Maybe in London they had a better image? Anyway I was a bit disappointed with the film which played a bit more like a love story for me anyway.
I'll check out On Demand to catch Eddie's comments.
No offense intended, but suggest you watch the movie as your memory is not too accurate.
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15 minutes ago, TopBilled said:
These were 45-minute features that Hal Roach did in the early 40s, called Streamliners. He made other ones featuring other characters/actors. But the ones with the McGuerins were a continuing series.
The full list is here:
Thanks, I looked at Wiki and some notes I have from a while back. Some of these were combined into other "movies." Ex. Two Knights from Brooklyn seems to be a combination of Two Mugs From Brooklyn and Taxi Mister?. Apparently Two Knights, Two Mugs and Taxi Mister? were not used in Brooklyn Orchid.
Guess my question is whether The McGuerins from Brooklyn is parts of others or is totally stand alone?
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The McGuerins From Brooklyn is on at 5:00 AM Jan 15/16. There were other movies, of which I have DVD's, that were very similar. I have been told they actually made a movie and then cut it into shorter segments for release again.
Question: Is The McGuerins From Brooklyn different from Two Knights From Brooklyn; Two Mugs From Brooklyn; Taxi Mister and Brooklyn Orchid? Put another way, if I have all except The McGuerins, do I also have the McGuerins? Thanks.
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2 hours ago, Sgt_Markoff said:
Ha. And of course its not a 'nice' car either. Not nice at all. It'd be a lot of fun to ride down the street with it though.
Aside: looking at it I still can't figure out why the wheels are arranged the way they are. Do they operate like gears? The grooves on the tyres acting like cogs and turning each other?
I believe they can be rotated. Not sure though, but may be to replace one that has been damaged without stopping on to use the wheels themselves to "grab" rough terrain, hills, rocks, etc.
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For those who liked His Kind of Woman, Macao is on Monday, Jan 14/15 at 3:45 AM. Somewhat similar to HKW, but not as much humor. I've discussed it in previous posts above.
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9 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
more on topic tho-
tonight at 8:00 pm (East Coast)
8:00 PMC - 128 mLeague of Their Own, A (1992)Synopsis: Two sisters become rivals while playing women's baseball during World War II.
Dir: Penny Marshall Cast: Tom Hanks , Geena Davis , Lori Petty .(A really charming movie from the early 1990's that I wouldn't mind seeing worked into regular rotation on TCM. )
This is a very good movie . It does pop up a lot on various channels and I have it on DVD. If it comes on, I may start watching and then have to finish it. There are no dead spots in this one or places where it drags. The cast is excellent, and I am not talking about Tom Hanks. Although Hanks does a good job in it, but it really is not his movie. The women are the stars in this one and Hanks and the rest of the guys support them.
I really don't like Madonna's singing, but her renditions in this one will make your eyes water. As for her acting, in this one she can do it and bring it off.
This would be great as a regular spring or summertime movie for TCM. The Girls of Summer?
As an aside, I don't really care for baseball, but I like baseball movies. Go figure.
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11 minutes ago, Vautrin said:
The great French poet Charles Baudelaire playing second fiddle to a bunch of dull
English Johnnies. Tres triste.
The only thing I know about Baudelaire is that he is in a comic comment in The Wheeler Dealers.
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4 hours ago, Looney said:
HIS KIND OF WOMAN (1951) - Okay this was a very good movie until Vincent Price showed up - then it became a great movie. I am a Price fan and I had never seen this picture before. WOW! was he fantastic. The only real downfall of the film is that he isn't in it enough. But seriously, you put Robert Mitchum and Raymond Burr in a movie and I am going to watch it. Add Vincent Price and I am kicking myself that I hadn't found this film before now. Okay that does remind me of another issue; Raymond Burr also isn't in the movie enough. But that isn't the big issue. I will have to read other's comments on this because I need to know I am not crazy. Didn't Burr have an accent in his first scene that seemed to disappear when he reappeared? I do plan to go back eventually and read what others have said over the past few weeks. I've just been busy and sick.
Now that you mention it, Burr did have more of an Italian accent at the beginning of the movie, as well as speaking in Italian. If you liked His Kind of Woman, try Macao with Mitchum and Russell. No role such as Price had, but William Bendix has a pretty good one in it. Gloria Grahame has a very good role in it as well. The Big Steal is another one, but with Mitchum, Bendix and Jane Greer.
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As for Lured, I'm somewhat on the fence. Definitely a two star movie, but somehow still can't get enthusiased over it. The Karloff bit seemed added on just to capitalize on Karloff and of course he was in it too early to be a serious contender for the villan. I have seen it a few times before, but been so long that I actually forget who done it. I knew it wasn't Sanders and I suspected Alan Mowbry at first. One problem I have (and it is mine) with Lucille Ball is accepting her in serious roles. She can do them, but I have too many I Love Lucy and her comedic movies. Although I do enjoy The Dark Corner and her role in it.
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11 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:
In another thread, he said he can't physically watch movies so he can only watch TV shows.
"Sitting on my backside for a full movie is a no-no from my chiropractor. In 2015, I had done it for so long, X-rays looked like my bottom two discs had been fused. I used a walker for a month and slept in a recliner for two months. In other words, TV shows versus movies, especially with commercial breaks, is just what the doctor ordered."
Also changing your name all the time seems like something a troll would do. Now I don't think he has any bad intent but it is rather suspicious.
Also changing your name all the time seems like something a troll would do. Only excuse for it.
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6 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:
According to IMDb Lured was filmed in General Service Studios - 1040 N. Las Palmas, Hollywood.
Sort of figured that, but somehow it just didn't have the right "feel" for me.
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4 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Yes, TCM has aired The Dark Corner; I know because MOVIES-TV shows the film a lot as part of Sunday Night Noir, and they censor (block out) the breast of the Italian statue at the end of the film (the one Stevens pretends to be interested in to get inside Webb's office). YEA, censoring of a 1946 film! So when TCM showed the film I made a point to look at the scene to ensure I wasn't crazy.
I'm a big fan of The Dark Corner but there is something cookie-cutter about the film. I.e. it is like some mid to late 50s noir films where it appears the screenwriter and director had a noir-element checklist while making it.
But generally those elements are weaved in a fairly seamless manner and with that fine cast the film 'works'.
I think during that period and even now, there are certain elements that the producers and directors wish to "check off" in their films and TV shows. Sort of like writing a mystery story 101. There are certain things that have to be there.
As for Dark Corner, I enjoy it when I watch it, but not a big fan of it. May watch it this time. Lured is the same for me, but less enjoyable. Not sure why, but it may be the London setting. While I enjoy movies in "exotic" locations, not sure this is one of them.
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12 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
Well again back to Noir Alley is the 1/20/2019 Murder My Sweet the last installment or are we going to get a new season, has anybody heard.
Speaking of Murder My Sweet, I watched the 1975 Robert Mitchum version of Farewell My Lovely and The Falcon Takes Over (1942) with George Sanders this week. Interesting presentations based on the same book.
The 1975 version is my favorite and I think the best version, although I have never read the book. Of course, Hollywood had a lot more leeway in 1975. Although you can see the same plot in The Falcon Takes Over, it definitely is not like the other two. That begs the question, are all three Noir or just MMS and FML?
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3 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:
(spoilers kinda, but it's not a major point)
I also wonder why TIM HOLT, although fourth-billed, is relegated to such a small and useless part in HIS KIND OF WOMAN, showing up for maybe 7 or 8 minutes in the third quarter before being summarily dispatched- almost like a stunt cameo placed as a red herring- but it doesn't do much to effect the plot one way or another.
I noticed he was starting to look less boyish and more paunchy and haggard, he did another fistful of westerns (all in 51 and 52) and then pretty much rode off into the sunset career-wise, in spite of bhaving been quite good in THE TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE and THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS.
Don't forget Holt's performance in The Monster that Challenged the World (1957). Not a bad little horror film.
1 hour ago, Solafide said:I'll be watching HIS KIND OF WOMAN sometime this week with the wife. She's 33 and we just really started watching TCM together for some cheap date nights with food and wine. She completely adores Mitchum right now so she's looking forward to this one.
It's really a pretty good movie and is one of my favorites. If you like Mitchum, try to see Macao (also with Russell) and The Big Steal (with Jane Greer). Macao is similar to His Kind of Woman, but with less humor and abuse.
I enjoy just about all of His Kind of Woman with the exception of the yacht scenes. The part where they are trying to drug/kill Mitchum and the chase and then the rescue by Price and the local gendarmes could definitely be reduced in length. I usually fast forward through it. Price's comic roles really do add something to the movie.
If you are looking for brooding/dark Noir, this ain't it. But still a good movie.
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1 hour ago, GordonCole said:
Just joshing ya! If we got rid of all typos on forums, there'd probably be no post at all.
I enjoy your posts so keep them coming.Don't forget auto-correct, although not sure that is done here. I hate it when system substitutes a word for one I did not intend.
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9 hours ago, Sgt_Markoff said:
10 centuries ago, el Cid sibilated:
I'm sure he can say whatever he wants. He can make up anything he wishes --as the whim strikes him --and send it out over the airwaves. He's a host of a television program on cable TV.
Usually ignore your comments, but picked this one up as a quote so went back to find it. First, you apparently took el Cid's comments out of context as it does not show of whom he/she spoke. Second, I would imagine it was a very old quote as el Cid [El Cid] hasn't been on this site in many years as far as I know.
Although I may have been mislead by the manner in which CigarJoe quoted you.
Regardless it is meaningless in the context that others have commented on your comments IF that is your purpose in posting it. If not, sorry.
There is a difference between freedom of speech and some of your comments.
Incidentally, I am The Cid if you are referring to me.
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1 minute ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Yes, fine comments by MissWonderly; I agree the film could have used tighter editing to around 100 minutes.
But Hughes spend a lot of money to make the film (e.g. Lee Van Cleef was cast as Ferraro with many of his scenes shot, so they had to be redone once Hughes decided he didn't like what Cleef did and wanted Burr instead, which cost over 800K).
The film is major production by a major studio and comes off as such and in many ways that takes some of the 'noir' out of it.
I think Lee Van Cleef could have done the role, but probably not as well as Burr. Thanks for telling us was originally in the role.
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MissWonderly: Liked your comments on His Kind of Woman and think you are very accurate.
I liked Eddie's opening description where he referred to it as comedy/noir/romance/musical or something to that effect. A whole new genre. Perhaps we can introduce Light Noir? I hadn't realized it is a full 120 minutes and probably would have been better at 90 minutes. Price does add a lot to the movie, but maybe a little less. Could drop about 75% of the doctor, but then he was created by and for Howard Hawks.
It is still one of my favorites from that era and it really helps having it on DVD so I can fast forward through the final scenes and get to the "scorching" ending. I particularly like movies of this type and period that are set in "exotic" locations or just away from the NYC, Chicago, LA normal.
Macao is somewhat similar "light noir" with Mitchum and Russell, but has less comedy and no Vincent Price character nor someone as patently evil as Raymond Burr can do it.
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I recorded His Kind of Woman and then watched Eddies intro and outro. Another great job and explanations for a lot of what has been questioned re: this movie. The production backstory on this movie goes way beyond most other movies of this type. I also liked how he starts off with a classification for the movie which should satisfy all who may criticize it as not being Noir.
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23 minutes ago, Lost In Space said:
I hear you. Being off topic happens here frequently. I did PM a moderator after my post. A little more transparency from TCM moderators would help. Silently deleting posts solves nothing.
As long as I have your attention, I know you can do this. I don't really know what Noir is. This thread would make better sense if I understood.
Also, I might suggest TCM do a Noir Alley Marathon, where Noir might show up in Prime Time.
For me, anytime a person goes from talking to singing in the same breath, that is a Musical.
While I never forget, I don't hang on to the past. I only get angry when it is in the immediate present.
You might like the below thread as it seems to have more discussions on Noir in general. It is under Forums, then Genre near bottom of screen, then Noir and Mystery.
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18 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
William H. Macy is one of the Neo Noir equivalents of say Elisha Cook Jr. or Zachary Scott, others are Steve Buscemi, Dennis Hopper, Dean Stockwell, Dan Hedaya, M. Emmet Walsh, Willem Dafoe, Robert Blake, and Harry Dean Stanton.
I sort of see where you are going, but I think Macy is a cut above the others.
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William H. Macy has won two Emmy Awards and four Screen Actors Guild Awards, as well as being nominated for an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor. Since 2011, he has played Frank Gallagher, a main character in the Showtimeadaptation of the British television series Shameless. Macy and actress Felicity Huffman have been married since 1997.[from Wikipedia]
He was great in Fargo and Wild Hogs in particular.
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Shameless: for those interested, this is the last season. The last "half" of the season will be in a couple of weeks on Showtime network.
I'm sure he can say whatever he wants. He can make up anything he wishes --as the whim strikes him --and send it out over the airwaves. He's a host of a television program on cable TV.
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OK, let's try it this way. Lot of responses to my earlier comment, but to what does this post refer? Is there some feature coming about LA Noir, a segment of TCM or Noir Alley on LA Noir, a book or what?
Thanks,