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Susan Kohner. She is in a couple of Route 66 TV shows and was a much better actress than I realized. Always thought she was one of several that were "modeled" in the Natalie Wood mold. I really like Suzanne Pleshette, but somehow the movies in which she appeared were not that great. As for Troy Donahue, one of the dullest, most wooden actors I have ever seen. I like Parrish (actually read the book) because of the then permissible tobacco farming connection and Rome Adventure for beautiful scenery, good music, Pleshette and Rossano Brazzi. Have Rome Adventure on DVD and watch it occasionally and fast forward through some of the Donahue scenes. Greatest line is Pleshette's "You could, you should and you will" in reference to Donahue's failed seduction attempt and where he will spend the night. The other movies, not very much. Only thing worse than Donahue is Sandra Dee.

I was in high school and college in 60's and saw a lot of movies. I too have never seen the fascination with the period. I would say that 75% of my favorite music (have a lot of it), is from the 50's. Some from the 60's, 70's and 80's. As for the movies, as with any period there were some good ones, but I tend to prefer the romantic-comedies of the period. We really enjoy Bachelor in Paradise, even if it is silly and Hope (and maybe Lana Turner?) are too old for the roles. The other actors were pretty entertaining. As for most of other Hope movies made after the 50's, I'll pass. Living near a beach, I thought the beach movies were silly, poorly written and terribly acted. Where the Boys Are is not a typical beach movie of the period and one that I have on DVD and watch frequently, Ironically, I read the book when in college and it is far more serious than the movie. Saw Midnight Cowboy, but none of the others and never really been impressed with MC. Probably because it is too dark.

Nov 24 is the Sat/Sun after Thanksgiving and that would permit five movies to be shown. Would leave it up to Eddie to determine which ones would be appropriate. Some interesting suggestions have been made. Although not a Noir in the basic sense, Cover Up might be appropriate.

Would be interesting if Eddie Mueller could select Noir movies with a Christmas connection for showing between Nov. 24 and Dec. 26.

Shadowed(1946). I recorded this but missed credits and watched it yesterday. It was on 08/21 for Anita Louise day. I kept listening to younger daughter "Ginny" and looking at her. Finally decided it was Terry Moore based mainly on the voice. Sure enough it was her, but Wikipedia shows she was known as Helen Koford then (age 17). She sounded much like she did in Two of a Kind (1951).

I think one of the other movieish TV channels periodically shows the Matt Helm movies. They are entertaining, but closer to comedy than the other "spy" movies of the period. Not in favor of TCM running any old TV shows as it starts down a slippery slope. Although, I believe they did do a series of Johnny Carson shows? Or maybe that was segments related to movie personalities.

Not to be confused with the corset in Touch of Evil.

Now if it was a Jag XKE, there would be no contest at all.

Not my type of car, although I would love to have one. I prefer the De Soto Firedome Sportsman Hardtop

My wife does not like Vertigo either and I haven't watched it in years. Actually, the only thing I really like is (wait for it) Stewart's car. As to Hitchcock, I enjoy The Birds, Marnie and North By Northwest and sometimes To Catch a Thief.

I know that TCM has limited selection of movies, but it seemed many of the Totter ones were where she actually had a very small role.

Can't wait to see that one in the news! Ha.??

If it was made today, they probably might have had sex. However, that would create a whole lot of problems with trying the case. Lying and deceiving is one thing, but sex crosses the line with judges and juries and I think would in a movie. Personally, I don't think they had sex. That raises the question-did Charisse and Basehart have sex? They were getting married.

Watched it again as I had not seen it in a while. While a first time viewer may think Sullivan is actually pursuing a relationship with Totter, it becomes obvious at the end that he was setting her up the whole time. Course I watch Perry Mason and Law and Order frequently and they use the same tactics. White Totter may have given up too easily, it is a short movie. I think things happen way too quickly in many movies from that era when they want to wind it up. I think Totter just saw the handwriting on the wall at the end and gave up. Her motive for killing Deager was that he was about to throw her out. Of course as a movie, they took liberties with a lot of things. Although the police procedures probably were not that different from real life. It was way before "rights" became an issue. It was a good movie and well acted, although Basehart was not too impressive to me. While his role was supposed to be wimpy, he was way too wimpy. Then he had a massive character change when he briefly encountered Charisse and became a whole 'nother person-too quickly. The part about the contacts was sort of interesting. I remember trying a pair in 1965. Most miserable months of my life. Never able to wear them for more than a couple of hours and finally gave up. I did get mine from an ophthalmologist who had a specialist in his office to fit and adjust them. I can only imagine what they were like in 1949.

Took me a couple of viewings to appreciate Lady of the Lake, but now I enjoy it. I think it is one of Totter's best roles as she really stands out in it. Of course she would have to paired with Robert Montgomery. It is in with our "Christmas Movies," although it is not really a Christmas movie. The camera viewpoint is not disturbing once you get used to it.

Without "commercialism," there is no TCM. It's FREE! Your "monthly cable television bill" is minuscule when compared to what you receive. Also, TCM is not stand alone, but bundled and usually into one of the lowest cost packages. As for the old AMC, I called AMC when they went commercial and rep. was quick to reply "Well we have to make money some how." That is the truth. Remember, you did not pay to watch it, other than maybe a very low cost cable charge bundled with many other commercial channels. As for adding "young females," that is to correct the many years of pretty much not having any females, young or old. It is called diversity, fairness and equal treatment. Personally, as an old guy, I am somewhat tired of hearing old guys. I do not see TCM adding "sex appeal" when choosing their announcers, just joining the 21st century. You try introducing a movie LIVE in a studio knowing than millions will be watching you. Heck, I get nervous addressing 3 or 4 people. And everyone uses teleprompters. Remember this if nothing else. TCM is fighting for its very life as a network. It probably needs more crass commercialism and must appeal to a broader audience.

One of the things I learned from watching the TV series Rome, was how much pornographic graffiti was on the buildings there and other places. It has been with us forever. When you look at where the world is now and what mankind does and how it was almost the same 500, 1,000, 2,000, 5,000 years ago, makes you wonder if mankind ever really will improve very much.

Young people ("kids") have been saying that since they first came out of the caves. Unfortunately they become just like the "adults" people they complain about. After all there was a new group of "kids" emerging every 20-30 years for thousands of years. Incidentally, you have to be an adult to "fix" anything. The answer is for all to work together to fix the problems and make the world better.

My error. I actually meant to say that there could be a Noir Alley because there would probably be some Noir movies during SUTS. Of course, maybe what Muller really meant was that he was taking a week off to harvest grapes or make wine or taste a lot of wine? As for Scene of the Crime, it was fairly good and most of the good points have been mentioned already. Somehow I just did not get into the Dahl role. She was too perfect in the way she dressed and appeared. I don't think her character as portrayed really added much to the movie. On the other hand, I really liked Gloria DeHaven's performance. A little softer than most, but in the end she was a femme fatale. In looking at it, you could see that her character was an actress and she played men for what she could get. After all, it was 1949 and she was a stripper. As for "loving" Turk, is that not the quintessential nice girls like bad men? Here again, you have to consider her background. In some respects, she could be easily manipulated by men. Perhaps a more complex character than we are used to. As for Van Johnson, he did OK, but that is about it. Guess one thing about the movie is all the changes of direction and character motivation that we often don't see. And they made it work. In hindsight DeHaven did a 180, but a believable 180. Dahl and Johnson at the airport was kind of sappy. By my calculations they had about 16 pieces/packages of "six cent candy" at the movie. I have noticed that Muller often refers viewers to twitter or something to discuss the movie. He never mentions this forum, much less this thread. But maybe that is a good thing?

It is curious (if possible) that even in SUTS month, there won't be some Noir. After all, many "stars" made Noir movies. Maybe they just decided not to do Noir Alley as such. Then there is always TCM on Demand. As for Scene of the Crime, Gloria DeHaven was definitely the best part. Arlene Dahl really didn't add a lot to it and they tended to glamorize her too often.

Have never seen it(?). If I have, have forgotten it. Read the synopsis on Wikipedia and it sounds familiar. Might record it so I can fast forward through it.

According to Baker, she was worth $200,000. He found this out from the automobile club.

The Black Scorpion, 1:15PM, July 23. A fairly good 1950's scify movie set in Mexico.

Always found it interesting that people on the lam in many movies go to South America or Mexico, probably without a passport, but have no problem acquiring a good income. While Bogie may have had some resources, he was able to live in Peru and go to a nice restaurant/bar every night while waiting for Bacall to show up. Wonder how long it did take here to show up.

I thought Eddie said he helped with the translation of the book. If so, he had a part in its publication in English. Regardless, he is probably correct in that it the best biography of Goodis, although I haven't read it. For those who might be interested in more on Goodis. As I have stated before, I watch the show to hear Eddie. In fact, I did not watch the movie today, only the intro and outro. The Van Johnson joke was funny.