ElCid
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2 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
Oyyyyyyy.......................
I've seen "thread drift" before, but NEVER at this level of cluelessness.
FEDYA at least was sorta on the right track, but my asking for more ideas as to how to further "X" rate this Christmas "classic" somehow zoomed over heads and was FAR mistaken to be thought of as a discussion the original movie.
But, in passing, I'll just relate to Eric that for many years A CHRISTMAS STORY went through a period of being a "Cult" Christmas "classic" until Turner started overdoing it. Many people owned copies of it and added it to their annual viewing of the other "classics" for a long time before then. I still have mine(and also on DVD) and watch it every year. But I NEVER bother to look in whenever the annual TNT or TBS marathons are running, still preferring no commercial breaks.
Sepiatone
Have owned the DVD for many years, since before it became a cult classic or marathon candidate. However, I also remember reading Jean Shepherd stories (on which the movie is based) when I was in high school and afterwords.
Always one of our Christmas movies to watch.
As for making it X rated, interesting and I'm sure someone has played with it.
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I think I did mention this on one of the Off Topic threads, but forget which one now.
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20 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
We watched this the other day and my wife wondered how that blouse with no bra look of Ann Sheridan got passed the censors.
If you look closely at movies from this period, it appears bras were not worn in many of them. I don't believe there was a rule requiring them. Also appears that a lot of movies featured backless gowns so audience would assume women were not wearing bras. Although there are some bras especially made for backless dresses.
Personally I wonder how her hat got past the censors.
Regardless, it is a very good movie.
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4 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
I have a couple of the Martini movies as well. I think in the past you may have mentioned buying from the Edward R Hamilton catalogs. They usually have a Criterion section in the Movies Only catalog. They tend to be too pricey from there, though.
With Hamilton and most others, you do have to shop around. One advantage to Hamilton is that they have a standard shipping charge of $3.50 no matter how big your order. You can also mix books and DVD's, whereas some sources may sell both but you can't mix an order.
I usually have a list of a few DVD's I want and then check among my 4 or 5 favorite sources. I have noticed over the last couple of years that most DVD's are going up in price and there are fewer bargains. The days of the good DVD's for $9.98 are long gone.
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14 hours ago, LawrenceA said:
Criterion releases movies from here and around the world, from the silent period up to recent releases. While most people think of them as primarily focusing on foreign films or arthouse fare, they also release many classic Hollywood films. The Philadelphia Story, Woman of the Year, Only Angels Have Wings, Stagecoach, Red River, The Manchurian Candidate, and many, many more, have all had Criterion releases.
What differentiates Criterion editions from most other versions is the quality of the print and the large amount of unique supplemental material, such as commentary tracks, making-of documentaries, interviews and/or profiles on the filmmakers or actors involved, etc.
Oh, and I don't purchase everything Criterion releases, only those that I'm interested in.
Thanks. I did search ccvideo.com and they have a "studio" tab which brings up Criterion Collection and several others. So, guess they are available from many sources. I'm sure we have purchased some before, but not specifically because they were Criterion. Think some of the catalogs we get do periodically have a Criterion Collection section. Did remind me of the Martini Movies that I purchased several years ago.
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We don't purchase by releasing company, but rather by movie or TV show. What are the Criterion Collection movies? I know I have some, but too lazy to go find them.
I get most of my DVD's from CCVideo.com, Oldies.com and a couple of others. Did get a catalog from Kino Lobar recently that has some interesting Noirs in it, but not sure I want to order them as not that familiar with the movies. Also one from Clickii.
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9 minutes ago, EricJ said:
Without a forum and discussion, what are we?...
We may soon know. No indications, but I have participated in other forums that were sponsored by corporations. They have either disappeared or been so ignored by the corporations that they may as well have been.
However, I am sure facebook twitter, et. al. are contributing to the disappearance of forums.
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16 hours ago, Stephan55 said:
Wow, it sounds like S.C. was more "progressive" and "liberal" in some respects than even S.Cali in those days???
Those "adult" mags were in plain view, in the liquor stores (which also sold food, snacks and comics), but behind the counters so that one had to request and purchase them at that time. One had to be at least 18 years old to legally buy one. But in my local barber shop, no one denied me looking, though I did try to be ever so discreet about it.
I began secretly subscribing when I was 17, and once I turned 18 I had no aversion about openly asking for one OTC. Same thing with buying condoms OTC in the local drug store, instead of using the overpriced but handy vending machines in the nasty service station latrines.
Ha Ha, very funny about the chaplains.Not sure if it was progressive or liberal vs. less regulated in many respects.
Up until the mid-70's S.C. did not allow liquor by the drink, brown bagging or anything else. Bars and restaurants could only sell beer and maybe wine, unless a "private" club. In my town, the Moose Lodge, VFW, American Legion were the private clubs that sold liquor. Although many patrons were not members of any of them.
Heck, my friends and I were able to purchase beer and hard liquor with little trouble when we were 16. If you drive up to a drive-in restaurant, you could purchase beer.
At the same time, you could walk into any bar in Charleston Co. and purchase alcohol by the drink of any kind. No ID needed since it was illegal to sell it anyway. We're talking the best restaurants, hotels, etc. At that time, you had to be 18 to purchase beer anywhere and 21 to purchase liquor at liquor stores. Not sure about wine.
Had a governor who had the state law enforcement agencies enforce the state laws uniformally across the state. Locals wouldn't do it. They shut down bars every week-end in Charleston and other areas until the legislature relented and passed reasonable alcohol beverage laws. Authorized brown bagging for a few years (even more drunks on the road) and then mini-bottles (pain for businesses and still more drunks on the road). Finally they passed current laws which are pretty much what rest of US has.
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Lived in coastal S.C. growing up and at age 14 got a job in local drugstore which sold magazines. We sold Playboy and other men's magazines to anyone who had the money. I don't think any stores had an age limit. Of course I got mine first at a discount. When I was 16, store stopped selling magazines due to hassle and low profits. So I began subscribing. Was popular in HS, College and the Army in Vietnam. One of the rooms I lived in in Nam had framed centerfolds on the walls. The medical unit where the male personnel lived had the walls completely covered in centerfolds.
I was on an exercise with a National Guard unit in Sep. 1984. They housed me with several chaplains. I bought a copy of the Sep. 1984 Penthouse at the PX. The one with Vanessa Williams for historical value (still have it). Ironically, the chaplains borrowed it and passed it around for days.
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7 minutes ago, TomJH said:
You may be right about that but the female reporter was definitely dressed like a man (unlike most female reporters in films then). Quite the coincidence to use the term as a euphemism for "happy" with a character like her.
I invite others to look at that clip of Big News on You Tube at the 33:18 mark. Did I misinterpret it?
But my question still applies as to when the term was first used.
This version more or less states mid-1960's as to its common use to mean homosexual. However, may have been used before that by some. Regardless, I don't think Hollywood used it before the 1960's in public.
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22 minutes ago, TomJH said:
I just watched a clip from a 1929 newspaper drama, Big News.
There is a scene in which a manish female news reporter, dressed in a suit and fedora, makes the statement "One never knows from day to day."
Her editor, a little hard of hearing, replies, "Why of course I want you to be gay. But you're not going to be gay on my time."
The film is available on You Tube and this interaction can be found at the 33:18 mark.
I was surprised to hear the "gay" term used in a film this early. Certainly it would die when the production code was enforced a few years later, though, to be honest, I don't recall hearing it used in any other pre-code films (though others may be able to cite other examples).
Would anybody know when "gay" as a euphemism for homosexuality was first used in a film, and when it was first used again with the relaxation of the code?
Think you have misinterpreted the context in which "gay" was used here. Probably referred to being happy or similar. But, I have not seen the movie or the clip so just guessing.
The Gay Falcon was released in 1941 and I am sure no one involved considered the George Sanders character to be gay in the current meaning of the word. I have seen other movies from before the 60's where "gay" meant happy, merry, bright, lively, showy, etc.
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One of my favorite movies will be showing Tuesday Dec 26, Bachelor in Paradise with Turner and Bob Hope.
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40 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
Pre-Code.com @PreCodeDotCom Dec 1
Pre-Code Movies on TCM in December 2017 http://pre-code.com/pre-code-movies-on-tcm-in-december-2017/ …
OK, who are they and what movie are they in?
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4 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
I checked out the listing and at first I believed many of these 'pre-code' films were not, as I view what defines a 'pre-code' film.
Yea, they were all made and released prior to the Production code being enforced in July 1934, but to me a film has to have pre-code themes or scenes. BUT what a great website! They have ' Proof That It’s Pre-Code' and this gives the reason they classify the film as a pre-code film.
Wow, even if I don't always agree with that 'proof' it is interesting and the site provides a lot of info about each film.
So thanks a million for exposing me to this pre-code site. It was as nice as seeing Joan Blondell get undressed for no reason than, well, seeing Joan get undressed (solid proof that it's a pre-code!).
I've always thought "pre-code" is a lot of hype. If you look at the boxes for the DVD sets or pre-code movies, it looks and sounds almost like soft core porn. Then if you look at TV ratings, they are classified as PG, if not G.
I know you have to accept a lot of innuendo, etc., but still...
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8 minutes ago, limey said:
Anyone who has watched the promo that TCM usually shows whenever The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is due to air, will realize that the real flaw in the movie is that it doesn't have enough giant beef steaks in it...
I get hungry every time that darn promo comes on. I hate to think what it does any viewing vegetarians.
I was watching an episode of Shenandoah this morning where he is in an almost ghost town. However, he is able to order a steak at the hotel. How did they keep the steaks fresh enough to actually eat in the West? My wife pointed out all the steaks eaten at Delmonico's in Gunsmoke. Of course, Dodge City had a lot of people.
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Based on my experiences on other sites I would question whether polls on this site would have any validity at all. Too many people would simply ignore them. So, you would end up with a poll with too few participants.
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14 hours ago, Dargo said:
Hey Cid! Boy are you ever in luck here, dude.
Ya see, I've heard through the grapevine(no pun intended here...although now that I think about it...) that any TCM message board member who has submitted a minimum of 5,000 posts around here will get 40% off, YEAH, a whole 40% off of each bottle they order!
(...I understand though that this offer isn't valid for or offered to any Back Lot members, as TCM believes THOSE folks already have a sufficient amount of discretionary income available to them)
Guess I knew it, but had forgotten or ignored it as to my having over 5,000 posts. Obviously spending way too much time here and not enough drinking wine while actually watching TCM.
Went to a nutrition counselling class yesterday and was informed (again) that should not drink more than 2-5 oz. glasses of wine per day. Maybe if I started drinking bad tasting wine?????
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On 12/27/2016 at 11:14 AM, Emily Dean said:
I too am disappointed that Eddie is shilling the Wine Club, it quite takes away from his status as a movie guru. As to the incessant whinging that gets on my nerves and now they are pushing catalogue items such as sweat shirts and coffee mugs and charging you $6.95 for the privilege of ordering a catalogue.
Any Orson Wells wine should be sold in a box...and as to Hitchcock's wine, I think he much preferred the harder versions of alcohol. Anyway there is no way I would be able to finish 12 bottles of wine in a year yet every three months. Wine clubs are for toffs and would be toffs.
Let's face it, TCM will not be able to support itself selling odds and ends...so should concentrate on what it is good at...focusing on classic films.
Interesting thought, but how are they going to make money off "classic films" if they are "free" on cable/sat and their catalogs, DVD's, etc. cost too much?
As for the wine, never tried and never will. If I cannot find it in my local grocery or beverage store, I'm not buying it. Based on the ads, it is far too expensive for me anyway.
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11 minutes ago, limey said:
I guess that you don't have cable/sat, or you've never wasted an hour of your mortal existence mashing the channel up button, starting from channel #1, just to see what the blue blazes all those channels could possibly be...
I have every channel that Charter/Spectrum offers and never knew EWTN was one of them. Now I do periodically surf all the channels to see if there is anything worth watching or if Spectrum has added something new. Apparently I skipped over EWTN as soon as I noted it was a religious station. Incidentally, it takes far less than an hour to surf all the channel listings.
Regardless, Mother Dolores Hart was a guest on TCM several months ago and did some interviews. I have at two of her movies on DVD - Where the Boys Are and Come Fly With Me. Boys is the better movie, but both are very entertaining. Lisa, AKA The Inspector is a serious movie that she made which also stars Stephen Boyd. Very interesting. She plays a Holocaust survivor. She is still a voting member of the Academy.
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6 minutes ago, calvinnme said:
For me, Amazon has been the best place to find OOP titles since you can always find some 3rd party willing to sell via Marketplace. Also check out camelcamelcamel.com if the price is too high. Set your own price and they will email you when the price reaches what you are willing to pay. It has been a world of help to this DVD hoarder.
I do not patronize Amazon because of their corporate practices.
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21 hours ago, DavidbarryM said:
Why aren't The Shop around the Corner and The Barefoot Contessa are not available?
Are you saying they are unavailable at TCM shop?
There are many sources for DVD's of old films. Two of my go to sources are ccvideo.com and oldies.com. Both also feature CD's of old music if you want that.
Oldies.com has Shop Around the Corner as part of a higher priced Christmas set. The other one mentioned above is out of stock. https://www.oldies.com/search/results.cfm?q=The+Shop+Around+the+Corner&results=tags_DVDs
ccvideo has Shop on a couple of different sets. http://www.ccvideo.com/search?q=The+Shop+Around+the+Corner&mod=AP
Couldn't find Barefoot Contessa anywhere.
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Are the Pete Smith comedy shorts available on DVD? Particularly interested in those with Dave O'Brien. Tried to search the internet and TCM Store.
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On 11/18/2017 at 3:32 PM, TopBilled said:
Sunday November 19, 2017
Robby the Robot on TCM
FORBIDDEN PLANET with Walter Pidgeon
THE INVISIBLE BOY with Richard Eyer
Robby was also in an episode of The Thin Man TV series!
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On 11/12/2017 at 8:22 AM, rayban said:
I have such fond memories of "Bernadine" with Pat Boone and Richard Sargent.
I watched the beginning of it the other day and noticed that Ronnie Burns is in the cast. FYI, he and his sister were adopted by George Burns and Gracie Allen. Ronnie was in many of the later TV shows of theirs.
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HITS & MISSES: Yesterday, Today & Tomorrow on TCM
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My comment meant that it is a very good movie regardless of what Ann Sheridan wore.