slaytonf
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Owwwoooo! So do some posts!
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One of the sweetest smiles on screen. She wouldn't have to do anything for me to like her. But, golly!, can she act!
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You do Victor Hugo a disservice in saying he missed an opportunity for sentimental gush. True, at the end of Les Miserables, Jean Valjean progressively removes himself from his beloved Cosette and the insipid Marius, retreating into apparent wretched misery. But Hugo was a genius and knew how to extract every last drop of emotional anguish possible from his material. So after a suitable amount of torment, just as he is on the brink of death, solitary, forgotten, the couple burst into his room, having discovered his role in saving Marius' life. There is an ecstatic reunion, and the couple pledge their eternal devotion to him. Then Jean Valjean dies.
None of the adaptations I've seen do justice to the book, but the best are Jean-Paul Le Chanois' with Jean Gabin, and Raymond Bernard's, with Harry Baur in 1934. To be fair, it's a big book.
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Then you will miss a lot of good movies, just because of a four-digit number in parenthesis after the title.
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One of the twelve labors of Herakles was to battle the Lernaen Hydra, a nine-headed beast. The first eight heads he chopped off died, being mortal. The ninth, being immortal, he had to bury under a big rock. But it seems there is no rock big enough to finally bury this hydra head of people wanting to derail TCM from its original mission of presenting studio-era movies and movies of today. They express their desires as coming from a concern for preserving TCM's mission, but really they want to change it into something it was never intended to be. TCM is today what it has always been, a channel that shows movies of all times, uninterrupted and unedited (at least by them).
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Feeling left out?
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1 hour ago, NipkowDisc said:
william shatner has said his kirk days are over for all time. gee, I didn't know that him not portraying kirk since that 1994 horrific blasphemy Generations which paramount used to rid itself of william shatner as kirk.
shatner is blameless in my view for it was paramount who decided to cut his kirk days short and the result was that all that star trek had been ended for most first generation trekkers have always known that shatner as kirk was 99% of the guts of TOS.
and I am grateful that shatner never kissed their **** by agreeing to appear in any of the cruddy substandard spin-offs.
we have lost star trek...but we thank bill shatner for his unmatched contribution to 20th century television entertainment. bill as jim kirk was the bold in the star trek intro.
attaboy, bill, you knew how to handle the green orion slave chicks.
you're the man!
"to James T. Kirk, captain of the Enterprise."
You tell 'em kiddo!
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How 'bout an unmake?
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For all its glaring plot holes, the writing in 'Miri' plays well so that you almost don't notice them. The Enterprise comes to a planet where there are only children. One of them falls into their hands, a pubescent girl, and she becomes a camp-follower. Kirk flatters her and gets kinda romancey in order to get her to open up about what's going on. The predictable result ensues. Everyone else can see she's gaga over him, while he, space's final frontiersman, feigns ignorance of it. Not likely. When she feels betrayed, she complicates matters acting out of bitterness.
The obvious place to look for life lessons is in the dangers of playing on people's emotions to get what you want from them. It may work alright for a while, but if people catch on to your being a phony, it's a bad look-out. But there's nothing special in that kind of revelation. Sorta common knowledge.
But for me, what's important is the disappointing blot on Kirk's character coming from his behavior. For all the ways Kirk has acted, peremptory, dictatory, disobediently, reluctantly, he never acted discreditably elsewhere. He did things to people, for them, with them. He cajoled, reasoned, appealed, and coerced people. But he never used them, played on their affections, like he did the young woman here. Aw gee, he shouldn'a oughtta dunnit.
Guess heroes aren't all heroic.
The episode is also notable for having one of Kirk's worst lines:
I wonder if he cringed inside sayin' 'em.
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Lady With a Past (1932), with Constance Bennett and Ben Lyon.
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23 minutes ago, TikiSoo said:
"spoken"
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16 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:
You have a life lesson here?
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On 8/4/2020 at 8:50 AM, Sepiatone said:
I'm surprised it got this many pages of debate. I always took Shaw to be the "Irish Mark Twain" insomuch as being more satirist than serious playwright, and his PYGMALION to be a sort of sneer at class distinction/ segregation. Proving that in many cases, the mastery of the language and grammar is based on an old maxim I've always liked.....
"If you can't blind them with your brilliance, then dazzle them with your bullsh*t!"
And unrelated, but still words I live by are-----
"Never have a method to your madness without a madness to your method!"
Sepiatone
Shaw, as I gather from reading, was deeply concerned with the conditions of the working classes and the poor. You can catch on to that in works like Major Barbara. He used comedy and satire as a way of selling his social program (a spoonful of sugar, so to speak). He sincerely thought 'proper' diction, as the gentry and nobility decided it was to be spoke, was critical for people to raise their status and transcend their class boundaries. This was understandable, as at the time he wrote Pygmalion he could hardly imagine the social upheavals in British society that would dismantle the class system to a great extent, though not completely. So today you can have successful people in all walks of life with Cockney, Bristol, Liverpudlian, or Yorkshire accents. Even on the Antiques Roadshow.
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*sigh* Politics bleeds everywhere. . . . .
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Maybe, say, since the first movie, but can you really say that about the years before? As I remember the first movie was a big risk, and took Gene Roddenberry ages to get made. Nobody was sure how it would be received. As you know, it was a smash. Sure, til then there was a cult of ST adherents, me among'um. But it was a true cult, i. e., restricted to a narrow following. Can his roles in the likes of Barbary Coast and a plethora of other TV work be attributed to that?
More life lessons to follow.
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Per IMDB, it is Fred Karlin:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074173/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_snd
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4 hours ago, EricJ said:
I'll let other certain MST3K-fan posters chime in on this one--Whatever you expect from the title, it's a dreary home-camera disappointment either way.
I'm wondering how Joe Bob Briggs managed to get on the credits...Is this graphic from a disk release with Mr. Briggs' commentary? I've been looking around for more of those.
Thanks for help with the search, comrade... 🇷🇺
That's one more movie on my Frustrating Search list down, two more to go....I guess Mr. Quilp (aka The Old Curiosity Shop) (1975) would also qualify for the thread?
Oh no. Not a musical. With Anthony Newly. And David Hemmings. And--a happy ending?
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Who would have thought Mr. Spock was a smoothie? He's been paired with a few women, not on the scale of space cowboy Kirk, and mostly unrequited on one or the other side (mostly his). But for all the randiness of the Enterprise captain, none of his encounters equaled the sheer erotic power of one of Mr. Spock's oh-so-decorous conversations with a Star Trek woman in The Cloud Minders. One of the most gorgeous of all, and in one of the most distracting dresses of all, making it difficult while she is on screen to pay close attention to the show. Even if it had been a good one, which it is not.
The show is an exploration of American race relations by proxy, substituting a world where the elite live in a city floating in the clouds (consider the symbology), and the lowly workers live not on the surface of the planet, but under it. The city dwellers live in an atmosphere of art and contemplation, the cave dwellers in a world of toil and toxic fumes. Most notable thing about it? Fred Williamson is in it.
When Kirk and Spock first arrive at the city, they meet the High Advisor, who introduces his daughter:
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Plasus : Gentlemen, one of our planet's most incomparable works of art: my daughter Droxine. Captain James Kirk.
Captain James T. Kirk : A pleasure, Madam.
Droxine : Indeed yes, Captain.
Plasus : And First Officer Spock.
[Spock bows his head very slowly]
Droxine : I have never before met a Vulcan, sir.
Mr. Spock : Nor I a work of art, Madam.
Doesn't miss a beat. I gotta remember that line. But the real moment comes later. I could not find a good clip, so I include a video of the episode. Unfortunately, the Droxine/Spock encounter was intercut with an action sequence involving Kirk and another woman. Don't know why, maybe for dramatic contrast. The action starts at 13 minutes in:
Maybe when they watched the scene uninterrupted, it was too hot. So what does Mr. Spock tell us about getting a woman just where she wants you? First, engage a woman's sympathy by portraying yourself as stoically bearing up under your estrangement from the world of women (cf. Some Like it Hot 1959). Then get her completely taken by suggesting qualities in her have the power to overcome those damaging barriers that have kept you distant from women. Then let the love light shine.
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4 minutes ago, TikiSoo said:
Seriously, can you IMAGINE being defined forever by the job you had when you were 25?
Hmm. Now who else would fall into that category?
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And now I am hot! Go team!
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31 minutes ago, JakeHolman said:
not tonight ...
I'd be interested in reading it.
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24 minutes ago, SadPanda said:
I got it. Funny: very
Except when the joke is being willfully not understood in order to make a political statement. A lot of that goes on around here.
Keep posting. I'm over 130 posts. My goal is 300+.
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3 minutes ago, JakeHolman said:
an cogent argument could be made against what spock states in some instances
Do you have one?
1952 les Miserables complete rubbish
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One the elements in all the adaptations of the book that keeps me from accepting them is the actors chosen to play Jean Valjean. He was immensely strong, and Hugo makes him not very tall, but big and wide. None of the actors cast in his role even remotely resemble him. It's especially highlighted in the scenes where his strength is called into play, lifting beams, carts, and carrying Marius through the sewers. Now I like Frederick March, and Micheal Rennie, and Richard Jordan, and Jean Gabin. But they are not Jean Valjean. To my mind actors like Rod Steiger or Oliver Reed are more like him.