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  1. More Blakeamania:

    I once read somewhere -- and believed, and repeated -- that Blake made all the Red Ryder movies. Clicking on that charqacter name, I found that was wrong. But he did jolly well make more of them than anyone else. Between 1944 and 1947, he played the role of Little Beaver in a total of 22 films (gives some idea of how fast they could churn them out).

  2. No. "Bobby" Blake as "Little Beaver" was the only one to appear in all of the *Red Ryder* Westerns.

    Pint-sized Indian sidekick to the hero (and the hero role changed hands). Rode a Shetland pony that could keep up with a posse at full gallop. Several years back, I bought a $1 DVD at the checkout counter - Stagecoach to Denver. The package gave "Robert Blake" top billing ( the case had not yet gone to trial). Start playing the disc, and it was back to "Bobby" in the credits. I guess someone thought the defendant's name might have a good effect on sales.

  3. Whew! I did not anticipate the tangent that started when I posted the comments on Cooper and Blake. I was merely responding to an earlier opinion that only Roddy, Liz and Judy had carried over into adulthood successfully. (I forgot to mention Johnny Crawford, who was a music prodigy before becoming "Mark McCain" on The Rifleman. His website indicates that he is still in music today, just not in front of a camera, and no indication that he is not content.)

     

    As for Little Beaver, a controversial "Not Guilty" to be sure. The facts brought out at the trial indicated that the person killed in that case was an extortionist and blackmailer. I am less upset about that verdict than about That Other One.

     

    I've read this thread with interest, and have learned about some cases I wasn't aware of before. But I kept Eng Lit 201 in the back of my mind also, and wondered about the possible reactions of Prof. Cantrell to the postings here. (Also the principle that there is no such real-life thing as "Tragedy"; it is merely a literary convention, explaining the actions of such people as Hamlet, Lear, and the Thane of Cawdor in that Scottish Play.) The "tragic flaw" could be ambition, procrastination, trust in a poorly-chosen advisor, or any other thing leading to wrong decisions and destructive acts. Yielding to addictions may qualify in modern times.

     

    Aristotle's Poetics introduces that word "hubris" and says that the Tragic Hero in some way brings about his/her own downfall or destruction. That clearly does not apply to some, perhaps many of the cases that have been discussed here. An event that arouses the onlooker's sympathy and makes one feel sad for the subject is not necessarily a tragedy.

     

    One case not mentioned so far that does not involve a life catastrophe could, in my opinion, meet the classical definition of the term: Sammy Davis, Jr. In his last years. He was not impoverished, or disabled as to health, but he missed performing. It seems that the happiest and most alive point of his existance had been in performance. The Rat Pack were dispersed, some of them deceased, some no longer speaking to each other. He could not get enough bookings to suit him. There are descriptions of Sammy just going into performance anywhere he happened to be. His entourage forced to stay still and watch, not able to leave when they had other things to do or when they needed sleep. Frank Sinatra had a joke about it: "Sammy wants a snack, opens the fridge. That little light goes on, and Sammy goes into 45 minutes of his act." This is a saddening image, to me, and it seems to relate to a failure in himself, a failure to find contentment in his accomplishments and enjoy the company of his friends. It was not a devastating downfall, but it may have been tragic.

  4. ...And Jackie Cooper? Started in the *Our Gang* shorts. Worked well into maturity acting and directing. Directed a number of Rockford Files episodes. Seemed to stay quite busy in his adult life.

     

    Robert (originally Bobby) Blake. Also originally in *Our Gang* comedies. Worked well into his adult years. Starred in at least two TV series. One as a detective. one as a priest. The series of events that made him a homicide suspect and then a cleared homicide defendent were apart from his professional life. Only his name made those events national news.

     

    I haven't read every line of this thread. Have these names been covered before?

  5. Fair enough. BTW, one more question: Does anybody beside me remember the original tagline of the intro, i.e. "I'm a cop", reworded to "I carry a badge." ?? I think it was changed fairly early, while Ben Alexander as "Frank Smith" was still Friday's partner. If anyone remembers the original, please enter it here.

     

    Thread still open.

  6. Okay, there's a lot of folk etymology on that subject. I once was told that it came from the initials COP on the car of the Chief Of Police in the old silent comedies (evidently not the ones about "Kops"). The source i got my info from drew a line from copper = cop among the Bobbies. to the use of "bronze" meaning police among Australian criminals -- naming the metal that their badges were made from..

     

    BTW, do you know any parties or groups who consider the term demeaning? I do know and remember that there objections to the word during the first couple of years that *Dragnet* was on the air.

     

    Still, open thread.

     

    Edited by: flashback42 on Feb 4, 2012 9:56 PM

  7. Okaaaay! Good news / bad news. I tracked down the answer, but the fact that I had the time to research something that obscure makes it harder to claim I have a life. :8} Next up:

     

     

     

    Mid 20th Century Western series. Basic plot device about settlers making their way west. An episode with two guest stars. One is a high-ranking Army NCO; the other is British aristocrat type (Brit actor) accompanied by servants and hard for the others to get to know.

     

    Series? Guests?

     

    Edited by: flashback42 on Feb 3, 2012 7:29 PM

  8. Sixes and stick;

    Lemesee here, lemesee.

     

    The badge pictured on the screen while that signature music played for the closing credits belonged to the LAPD officer who worked as advisor to the series. When they accumulated enough episodes to start reruns, they used that badge number as the title of the rerun series. (Eventually, LAPD retired that badge no. as a tribute to the series.)

     

    Narration change, "I'm a cop." to "I carry a badge." Some people, (and some of them with clout) objected to the use of the word "cop", considering it demeaning. After all, it did originate as criminal slang ("copper", shortened to "cop"; a reference to the copper badges worn by the London Bobbies. I was nearing my teens when this discussion was underway, and I remember reading that J. Edgar Hoover was one of those who objected to the term "cop".. I haven't heard the original wording for decades. Those episodes may have had the original taped over with the new wording. With passage of time, I know of no one who still has a negative impression of the word.

     

    Consider this thread open.

     

    Edited by: flashback42 on Feb 3, 2012 7:08 PM

  9. Looks like that's a yes re *THE OTHER*, skipper. 1. Leonard Maltin's Movie Guide has a DVD symbol beside that title, and 2. Amazon also lists the title, with prices ranging from $6 - $11 or so. Good luck. Next up:

     

    From the littlescreen side. A popular police procedural lasted from early 1950s to late 1960s with some gaps in the production periods. It had a set opening sequence that became quite familiar to its fans. The star / writer / producer/ director/ narrator said something like:

     

    "This is the city; Los Angeles, California." Yada (a few statements of exposition that related to the upcoming story) yada. Then: "My name's Friday. I'm a cop."

     

    .................then a change was made:

     

    (Same opening line that named the location. Similar statements of exposition.) Then. "I work here. I carry a badge."

     

    *Q.* What was the reason for the change in that last line in the opening?

     

    *Bonus Q.* What was the rerun title for this series?

     

  10. Correct. The plot had Kenny Rogers' "Gambler" character in a hurry to get to San Francisco for a special high-stakes poker game. Along the way the folks he met included Clint Walker as Chyenne Bodie, and Gene Barry, as mentioned, in the role of Bat Masterson. Others: Hugh O'Brien as Wyatt Earp; David Carradine as Kung Fu 's Caine. Brian Keith in his The Westener persona. A real nostalgia roundup focusing on the midcentury TV Westerns.

     

    One point noted: Doug McClure was just "Doug" and James Drury was just "Jim". No use of their Man From Shiloah characters' names, "Trampas" and "The Virginian". Chuck Conners and Johnny Crawford from The Rifleman were in different scenes. Crawford was the one helping start the movie business. When it got to the big game in Frisco, Jack Kelly was present as Bart Maverick.

     

    lavenderblue's thread.

     

    Edited by: flashback42 on Feb 3, 2012 12:50 AM

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