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44 minutes ago, Shank Asu said:
I watched the Jones/Ford film as a teenager in the theater without knowing it was based on an old show. Still haven't seen the original series, but in general i'm against remakes.
Ya know folks, I'm really starting to hate it when these dang youngins come on here and make me feel old!
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30 minutes ago, Hibi said:
I think you are mixing up the plot with another movie. Baxter's boyfriend doesn't die, he writes her a Dear Norah letter dumping her for some nurse he met. LOL. The cad!
I don't think Vautrin meant earlier to imply that her soldier boyfriend died Hibi, but just that because of being hit by the "commie shrapnel" she lost him to the nurse who convalesced him.
(edit: I see Vautrin just explained this himself)
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10 minutes ago, TomJH said:
I don't like George Peppard either, but at least I'll say his name.
The only two performances of his that I liked were as a good ol' southern boy (with a surprising amount of charm) in Home from the Hill, and in How the West was Won. All that charm he showed in Home from the Hill seemed to disappear with that film, as he turned into ONE COLD FISH on screen.
Yep, and who always seemed to give the impression that he thought his you-know-what didn't stink.
(...YOU know Tom, just like Laur...ahem, excuse me...that British actor!)
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41 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:
Ah. We disagree on this one, Bronxie. Although I suspect the majority are with you on the opinion that The Blue Gardenia is one of Fritz Lang's lesser works. And maybe it is. I mean yeah, when you compare it to Scarlet Street or The Big Heat or even Rancho Notorious ( and many others) , T.B.G. might be perceived as coming up short.
Ok, I guess it's not a great film. But for me, it's an enjoyable one. For one thing, I think it's fun. I get a kick out of that Polynesian bar . Yes, Eddie mentioned "tikki" but I don't know anything about that, I just thought the place was fun. Exotic Chinese food ( the stuff Raymond Burr ordered, I've never even heard of !) and those Pearl Diver drinks, the over-done decor, the blind lady selling gardenias, and of course, Nat King Cole singing the title song !
Another feature I really enjoyed was the set-up of the three women sharing a flat like that. They all three slept in the living room ! How's that for privacy ! And they had a schedule they'd worked out, whose turn it was to do the dishes or "make the orange juice" in the morning. They had it all worked out, right down to sharing their clothes. In reality, such a situation would probably drive me crazy, but in movieworld, it's fun to see a domestic solution like that.
I always like Richard Conte, and he and Richard Erdman make an entertaining team. And I don't agree that Anne Baxter had little to do , I thought she gave a fine and sympathetic performance as the bewildered and frightened young woman who's not sure exactly what happened and has no way of really finding out.
The whole date-rape scenario was interesting. Now of course, we can see the set-up Burr's character was creating as the contemptible behaviour it is. But back then, I guess a girl was supposed to look out for herself and be careful. Funny the double standard they had then. It's not clear what would have happened if Norah had not hauled off with that poker. Would Harry have raped her?
Also, you have to wonder what happened after he was whacked with that poker. SPOILERS So, Norah hits him with the poker and then passes out , she can't remember anything when she comes to, and stumbles away. But apparently she did not render Harry unconscious, since he was up and walking around when the record shop woman showed up. And that record shop woman...it's clear that Harry got her pregnant and she now wants him to either marry her or "help her get rid of the problem". This was pretty volatile stuff for 1953, but of course, it's all sort of coded. Poor record shop lady, they really picked an older, not particularly attractive woman to play this character. Guess we're supposed to think Harry couldn't get any of his usual girlfriends the night he went out with her.
Anyway, as I said, for me , The Blue Gardenia may not be a top-drawer Lang (or even a top-drawer noir), but it's fun. And I'm never bored, which is always something.
IF this film (which btw, I still think is only questionably a "noir") IS considered one of "Lang's lesser ones", then I'd say that this probably has most to do with its happy ending finale.
(...bottom line though here...I'm with ya on this MissW...I've always found it an entertaing little film with very good acting all-around, and that moves along at a decent pace)
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15 minutes ago, txfilmfan said:
Local stations always have had the freedom (in most cases) to shift programming to a different day or time, especially after videotape became feasible for local stations to own.
So, it's possible your local affiliate aired it at a different time.
Yeah, good point here, Tex!
Maybe the ABC television network affiliate in Detroit re-scheduled the airings for The Fugitive to coincide with GM's second shift punching out for the night on their timeclocks!
AND, word WAS that the shop foreman on that shift, "Manny somethin'-or-other", was a big David Jannsen/Fugitive fan too, ya know.
(...and you know how strong and influential the UAW union was back then, don't ya?!)
LOL
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1 minute ago, Sepiatone said:
Better than I AM presently, anyway.
Sepiatone
Well, in your defense, I do understand that those Michigan winters of yours back there can often reek havoc on a guy's appearance!
LOL
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2 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
But I do recall being alowed to stay up and watch the show. But, as we're talking nearly 60 years ago, I might have been recalling my seeing them in summer reruns.
DARG: It might have been the pics of you that you've posted showing a shock white mane and beard. So far, my month from 70 visage would display still dark brown(but much thinner) hair, but the beard is white sho' 'nuff.
Sepiatone
LOL
Yeah, but I'M still fairly good lookin' AND in pretty damn good shape for an old guy, wouldn't ya SAY?!!!
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11 minutes ago, txfilmfan said:
Wikipedia has articles with the nominal network schedules, going back to the dawn of network TV. Schedules were more stable back in the 50s and 60s. The articles have a more difficult time with schedules in the 70s and later, as networks grew impatient with poor performing series, and quick cancellations and replacements became more common.
In 63-64, it was on at 10 ET on Tuesdays. I spot checked the subsequent years. It appears it remained in this time slot for its entire run.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963–64_United_States_network_television_schedule
Yep, when the 'The Fugitive' series was first run, it was always scheduled Tuesday nights on the ABC television network at 10pm, 9pm Central, as they used to say.
(...and I watched it in the sunny climes of Los ANGLE-less, ahem, I mean Los Angeles California on KABC channel-7 during that time...well okay, with the time of 10pm being hours after the sun had set on the City of Angels, anyway)
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22 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
I recall you stating you were born in 1950, which should have made you 13 when the show debuted. I was 12( as I was born in '51) and I don't recall the EST time slot, but it was early enough for me to be allowed to watch(I too had parents with strict bedtime rules).
Sepiatone
No, I was born in March of 1952, Sepia. And, with this series premiering in Sept of 1963, thus making me 11 y/o at the time.
(...don't know how you got the idea that I was older than you, as I've always known that you were WAY older than I am, ol' boy...well okay, a whole year older. anyway)
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3 hours ago, Citizen Ed said:
...He always talked about how he had a hard time getting roles after the show ended because everyone had him typecast as Sheriff Andy Taylor. All he needed to do was show ten minutes of Face and that illusion would have been broken!
Actually here Ed, you might recall that after his turn as Andy Taylor was over, in efforts to do just that, attempts to break from that image that is, in a number of guest roles in 1970s TV series and in a couple of TV-movies made during that decade, he played the villain.
(...one TV-movie in particular I recall in this regard and which co-starred William Shatner was the 1974 motorcycle-themed "Pray for the Wildcats")
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13 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
I don't recall that and at the time I probably passed on watching it due to George Peppard being in it. For some reason, Peppard affects me the way George Raft affects you. Which means, Dearborn, MI native notwithstanding, I never saw an episode of either BANACEK or THE A TEAM.
Yep, have to agree with ya here, Sepia. There was always something about Peppard that was in a way a bit off-putting, wasnt't there.
(...although maybe less so than how Tom feels about a certain British actor "who shall remain nameless" here if our Canadian buddy might happen upon this thread)
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11 hours ago, ElCid said:
I think the above say as much as I could. I missed the outro. Did Eddie say anything significant?
Nope, not really. I thought it was one of Eddie's shorter and least interesting outtros he's done in quite a while.
(...in fact, it even seemed as if he might have been in a hurry to get back to his Facebook and Twitter feed!)
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2 minutes ago, NoShear said:
No, Dargo, you got me there: I thought the One-Armed Man was brought to his conclusion at the Los Angeles Zoo!
Nope, this ride's central tower which was as I recall the tallest structure at P.O.P...
...was where the final showdown between Kimble and the One-Armed Man was filmed...
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1 hour ago, NoShear said:
With mention of Pacific Ocean Park within the context of television and Father's Day...
Pacific Ocean Park offered a natural thematic image for The TWILIGHT ZONE episode entitled "IN PRAISE OF PIP". (Watch the episode.)
And, Nip's David Janssen/The Fugitive thread today has in this regard also reminded me that the climactic scene in that series' final episode "The Judgment: Part 2" and where the one-armed man finally gets his just deserts, was also filmed at P.O.P. and as you might know, NS.
(...and even through as I recall, that amusement park was supposed to actually be located in Indiana, Dr. Richard Kimble's home state)
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2 minutes ago, TomJH said:
Here's an interesting colour photo taken on location. Would anyone know who the lady is beside Walter Huston? Possibly his wife?
Yep, kind'a looks like it might be Walter's third wife Nan Sunderland here, Tom...
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In regard to your topic "Father Knows Jest" here, NS...
In my case, the first thing that came to mind was when I'd reach the front door to our house when I was a kid and it would be locked. If my father were inside, he'd always yell out from the other side of the door, "What's the password?" Knowing that the "password" since I was a young tot had been established as "swordfish", I'd then call out that word to him and he'd unlock the door so I could enter the house.
It wouldn't be until I was in my teenage years and happened to one day catch a showing of the Marx Bros' Horse Feathers on TV would be when it would dawn on me why the password was always what it was...
(...in other words, evidently being a big Marx Brothers fan must have been handed down to me by my Pop and wasn't by sheer coincidence)
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10 hours ago, TomJH said:
I have no idea how many times I've seen TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRE over the years but it is one of my five favourite films, as you may be able to tell by my avatar.
I watched it again last evening and was surprised to make a new discovery, and that is the unbilled appearance of character actor Clifton Young at the 11:11 mark of the film in the flophouse scene, when it is first visited by Bogart and Tim Holt. He can be overheard in a conversation as Bogart and Holt pass by him, saying, "Streets are full of guys, pushing each other."
In case you're not familiar with Young he was a Warner Brothers character stalwart during the late '40s, possibly best remembered today for playing the guy trying to blackmail Bogart in DARK PASSAGE, which was filmed just before TREASURE. He also appeared with his toothy smile playing an obnoxious type in many of the Joe McDoakes comedy shorts that play on TCM.
This is Young in Dark Passage, for those unfamiliar with his name who may recognize the face
And here he is with Joe McDoakes (George O'Hanlon)
Of course, an unbilled Jack Holt, Tim's father, also appears in the same flophouse scene in TREASURE, sitting beside Walter Huston, with a couple of lines of dialogue, but I already knew that. Spotting Clifton Young talking a minute or two earlier was the new discovery. Ann Sheridan was reputed to have appeared in the film as a prostitute, a cameo she apparently did as a gag on Bogart, but her scene didn't make it into the final film for whatever reason.
http://www.ann-sheridan.com/images/Pretty woman walking past barbershop 2.png
The hooker passing by Bogart after he emerges from the barber shop is clearly not Sheridan.
I have to wonder, though, if Sheridan ever saw the film. In an interview she gave Ray Hagen in the '60s she thought her unbilled gag bit was in the movie.
Ann Sheridan: I played a hooker. Ray Hagen: You did? Ann Sheridan: I walked down the street in a big fat disguise to see if Bogart would recognize me. There's a shot where he comes out of a bar -- I guess he had the toothpick, he always did, and the hat turned up -- and he passes me and then turns and looks back.Other appearances in the film are made by a young Robert Blake as a lottery ticket seller (Blake is, I suspect, the only cast member still with us today) and, of course, director John Huston appears as an American tourist repeatedly pestered by Bogart's Fred C. Dobbs for a handout in the early Tampico scenes.
By the way, Alfonso Bedoya's Gold Hat bandit never says "We don't need no stinking badges!" in the film, as many people believe. What he actually says, to be fully accurate, is "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!"So anyone else have any feelings (or anecdotes) about one of Bogart and John Huston's best remembered films?Ah yes! The ill-fated actor Clifton Young.
Yep, first, it must have been tough being born with one of those faces ya just wanna punch, AND who died at the tender age of 33 after setting his hotel room on fire after falling asleep while smoking in bed.
(...yep, it sure don't get much more "ill-fated" than THAT, alright)
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1 hour ago, NoShear said:
It seems pointless to respond to you with the following, jamesjazzguitar, but just on the off chance you've yet to discover - Tommy Tedesco's son, Denny, put this together:
Oh yeah, NS! One of the best documentaries I've watched in years.
(...caught it on PBS a few years ago)
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28 minutes ago, Moe Howard said:
So yes or no on the Mickey Finn in the coffee ?
I was kind'a thinkin' this too, in fact.
This was now probably the third time I've watched The Blue Gardenia over the years and still found it an entertaining mix of drama with just the right amount of humor and humorous characters inserted occasionally into it.
(...I remember it was during my first viewing of it a few years back as being when I began rating Ann Sothern much higher on my "Watch-o-meter", as I think she's terrific in this film)
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5 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
OK, so if you were to produce the '60's TV show, based on Sheppard's story, and was to cast someone who resembled him, who would you have picked.
ROBERT DUVALL... or....
RICHARD JAECKEL? or.....
Sepiatone (no, not me. Just signing off.
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You might remember Sepia that there was a 1975 TV-movie made of the Sam Sheppard case which starred George Peppard in the titular role.
(...I vaguely remember watching it)
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During the time The Fugitive TV series was first run, I was ages 11-15 and my bedtime during the school year was 10pm, EXCEPT on Tuesdays nights when my parents allowed me to stay up until 11pm to watch each episode as it unfolded.
I remember studying David Janssen's mannerisms, and for many years even affected that signature quick one-sided little grin of his because I thought the guy was cool as hell.
(...however, I can't completely agree with Nip the OP's assessment of the Harrison Ford movie, as I think it was a great condensed movie-length version of the story that easily deserves its 7.8 IMDb and 96% Rotten Tomatoes ratings)
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1 hour ago, Toto said:
A fascinating relationship between father and son in this film. Great choice!
I've always felt the Rob Stephenson character was really only introduced into the film for two reasons.
First, to show that Teresa Wright's Peggy character wasn't an only child, and secondly to perhaps show a generation gap possibly forming between March's Al character and with that of his son, and due to the former having recently experienced the horrors of WWII firsthand and with the latter seeming more concentrated upon the future in an atomic age.
And so after he's introduced and has that one little interection with his father, Rob presence isn't required after that in order to move the story along.
(...although and as you may have heard Toto, Rob reportedly WOULD end up being the roommate of another lost and missing son from another family just a few years later...one Chuck Cunningham, originally from Milwaukee, Wisconsin)
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11 minutes ago, NoShear said:
Pacific Ocean Park, Marineland, Pike's in Long Beach: I cannot understand how these cool entertainment venues with their attractive proximity to the Pacific Ocean all became proverbial sand castles, Dargo.
I would think the skyrocketing land values of where they were all situated probably had the most to do with their demise, and then a close second the idea of a diminishing attendance at them and after the novelty of them had faded in the public's mind.
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8 minutes ago, NoShear said:
I think I read something about how Corky was "smuggled" out during the wee hour as to not announce to neighbors that their beloved Marineland was soon to be the proverbial yesterday's papers.
Yeah, I think I remember how that whole thing played out too.
NAME A SCREEN CHARACTER YOU'D LOVE TO PITCHFORK
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That would be actor Morgan Woodward, and he plays the character Boss Godfrey in this film, Tom.