Dargo
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Dargo, I believe that I was being potty trained around the time of George's unfortunate demise. My Superman viewing was exclusively through the rerun process. Just like Broderick Crawford's HIGHWAY PATROL .
"Okay. Gotcha Roberts. You're a few years younger than I am, too. 10-4, over and out!"
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That he didn't do much else of note between the two films is as much MGM's fault as anybody's, but it is to note that he also went to war and saw things there...maybe it took Gable until 1961 to come to terms with with weaknesses and sorrows to use them in his work.
Yep Lorna, I have admit his post-WWII filmography IS rather scant in quality and mostly filled with movies probably best classified as "vehicles" for him.
However, I HAVE always liked "THE HUCKSTERS", and think he very convincingly played the cynical protagonist who must tread the compromised halls of Madison Avenue.
(...of course then again, THAT movie DOES also feature AVA GARDNER, and so what's not to like, HUH?!) LOL
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Just a guess here Ham, but because there is no more "Hot Topics" forum and where that old thread resided before this new format's debut, it isn't likely to appear anywhere.
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I suppose if I start calling myself Doctor Tom you won't buy that one either, will you?
Nope!
(...'cause I've never been overly impressed with titles, of course!)
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...But, strictly in the name of scientific investigation, mind you...
Good try, Tom.
(...but don't worry, that line never works for ME either!) LOL
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Gloria Swanson as Gloria Swanson in Airport 1975.
Hey lady! (see how quickly I learn?)
Wasn't EVERYBODY miscast in THAT one????
(...well, EXCEPT of course for Karen Black, 'cause I heard the script called for a cross-eyed stewardess!!!)
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Dargo, in that scene from GONE WITH THE WIND I just see the movie star Gable "acting" emotion --- unlike the heartwrenching scene in THE MISFITS where he appears to be experiencing real sorrow.
Clearly Gable had the abilty to reveal vulnerability but he apparently chose to project his "movie star" persona in most his performances.
Thanks for your reply, Holden. I suppose on the whole you MIGHT be right, but as I earlier stated, I think in many cases it was just the scripts he was handed that probably had penciled in on the top of 'em somethin' like:
"Give me a Clark Gable-type for the lead in this if he isn't available."
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You sounda lil Italeano there. You surea your pic shouldn't be Chico, rather than Groucho?
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Oh, I canna do'a a pretty mean'a Chico impression'a TOO in'a pinch'a, Tomasito!!!
(...in fact'a, we could'a sign'a a contract and take'a my act on'a the road, JUST as long'a as you'a don'a try slippin' in'a some kinda "Sanity Claus" into it!!!)
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Well, if that's the case, Hayes was friends with Monroe, as well. In one of his two books he talks about an evening in which he comforted her as she opened up to him about problems in the Dimaggio marriage. And, no, just in case you're wondering, the 'comforting" was strictly of the emotional support variety, not the physical.
Eeh! I HATE to hear about people and their "missed opportunities"!!! LOL
(...though in MY case, I can kinda see why Steve took "The High Road" here, as Marilyn never did a THING for me EITHER...I like'a the brunettes, as I'm sure I've made abundantly clear by now around here)
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Hayes never claimed that but Flynn did take him on the Hollywood nightclub scene with him. Women (and trouble some of the time) flocked to Flynn and I'm sure that Haynes, a strapping big good looking guy in those days, wasn't shy about introducing himself to the ladies.
Gotta say, Steve sounds like a pretty good guy, alright....though I'd REALLY take my hat off to the guy if he was MORE than just "friends" with AVA GARDNER!!!
Any word on THAT front???
(...or should we maybe stay on topic here about Gable, Monty and Marilyn...yeah..."maybe" we should just do that, huh!)
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Anything but. He lived a very hetero lifestyle during the Hollywood of the '50s, being friends with Ava Gardner, among others, and even living in Errol Flynn's home for a short while.
And thus gettin' some of Errol's..ahem.."leftovers" MAYBE, Tom???!!!
(...sorry, I couldn't resist...and besides, I'm STILL waitin' for a reply from Holden here about my defense of Gable, and so I had nothin' better to do than to crack wise YET again!!!)
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Naming the titles to the films of Russ Meyer would present a problem. "Faster you-know-what! Kill! Kill!"
Uh-huh, TT.
NOT to mention a particular theater chain which did pretty good "bidness" before the VCR became a standard household appliance!!!
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Yes, I totally agree, LHF.
And the standout moment for me is the scene I mentioned in my original post: the one with Gable calling out for his children.
He lets us see in THE MISFITS a real and vulnerable human being that he never did in my opinion in any other movies of his I've seen.
I think he must have trusted John Huston a lot for the "movie star" to reveal that kind of vulnerability.
Okay, WAIT a sec here, Holden my friend!
While I know it's now "trendy" to dis GWTW, TELL ME here dude, doncha think Gable's little scene were DeHavilland gets him to allow his daughter to finally be buried, show JUST "a LITTLE bit" of his abilities to realistically project that there whole "real and vulnerable" thing you're talkin' about here, dude???????????
(...in other words, Clark WAS a MUCH better actor than many people ever gave him credit for, and could HE help it if he was always straddled with that whole "ultimate masculine role model" thing and in an era when THAT concept was "in vogue", and thus mostly given scripts which pressed that whole idea?!!!)
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Frankly, I'm a little surprised that this isn't getting more attention.
CBS Sunday Morning did a very nice tribute to her today.
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Thanks, rosebette. I was wondering if anyone else on this Hudson thread would pick up on that observation of mine comparing him to James Garner. I can fully understand why you had a crush on him.
Garner, at his best (The Rockford Files, for example) knocked me out with his easy going charm and delicious comedy talent. Hudson just never, and I do mean NEVER, did the same thing for me. To me, he's just a good looking guy, affable enough, I suppose, but almost empty of personality compared to someone like Garner.
To be fair, though, there are a lot of actors lacking personality next to Garner, in my opinion, not just Hudson.
I didn't run across your earlier post regarding this Hudson/Garner comparison, Tom. But yes, of course the similarities between these two men of classic good looks and their talent for lighter fare have been apparent since they both hit the big and small screen.
However, I also hope you might have mentioned something in that earlier post of yours which I've always felt could be said about them too...that basically both were "The Next Cary Grant" or at least groomed to be that, and especially in the aforementioned "lighter fare" films.
(...and for the most part, both succeeded in that role, though of course it's also extremely hard to better the "original", and of which neither would do, of course)
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I'll "Third" this sentiment here!
Hilarious stuff indeed, and I especially enjoy Rich's "inside jokes" which reference lesser known movie trivia, and thus is perfectly catered to this audience of film buffs around here.
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I definitely am not one of those who sees "conspiracy" lurking in every shadow but is it that certain that George's death was a suicide? This is one of those happenings that has a number of unanswered questions. And it appears highly unlikely that we the public will ever really know the truth. . By the way George had a small, but highly visible role in the Cagney film THE STRAWBERRY BLONDE .
True, Mr.R.
But then again you have to remember, TB isn't old enough to remember not ONLY the day Superman died but JFK TOO!
(...NOT to mentioned that the poor puppy missed out on watchin' The Beatles hit the Ed Sullivan stage TOO the first time around!!!)
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Exactly one year from today it will be the 800th anniversary of King John signing the Magna Carta. I don't remember Claude Rains doing that in the movie (Robin Hood) , that scene must have been cut.
I dunno what you're talkin' about here, Mr.R?!
I distinctly remember Rains at one point in that movie saying to those noblemen who had him at sword point...
"I'm shocked, SHOCKED to find that you want me to sign this document!"
(...yeah, I knew you saw that one comin', didn't ya?!)
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Better yet is 4:3, like Gone with the Wind and Drums along the Mohawk, so we can see the sky above us and the ground below the actors, and their legs too. We do not need to see the sky cut out and the tops of their heads cut off and the bottoms of their legs missing.
Oh gosh! Here we go again with that whole "Directors couldn't have made wide screen movies back in the day because that would have cut-off all the head and/or feet is they did" Theory o' Fred's again.
PLEASE, would somebody, ANYBODY here('cause Fred has me on his ignore function) once again attempt to get good ol' Fred here to understand that GWTW and every OTHER flick ever made COULD HAVE been done in Wide Screen format IF its director would have ONLY told his Cinematographer to FRAME EVERYBODY'S head and feet within the freakin' movie and depending upon the particular shot's "intent" for the audience?!!!
(...yeah, I know...a waste of time, huh...never mind) LOL
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Powell's best, although I don't understand the big deal about getting Baptized.
I take it your Bar Mitzvah didn't turn out like you had hoped, eh finance?!!!
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What I think works for MacMurray is that he is a handsome guy. He could easily turn on the charm and tell women what they'd like to hear and they'll melt for whatever line he gives them. Look at Double Indemnity, granted Stanwyck was returning all of MacMurray's smooth lines with lines of her own, but MacMurray throws a few "babys" in his lines and Stanwyck was his.
With 'Apartment,' I could see how MacMurray could have these dalliances on the side and how it would probably be easy for him to find one mistress after another. With Douglas, it'd be difficult to understand how he could keep seducing all the female employees at their company unless he was loaded or was promising them promotions or something-- there'd have to be something for the women to gain by embarking on an affair with Douglas. With MacMurray, it seems more plausible that they would just succumb to his lines and empty promises to divorce his wife for them.
Egg-ZACK-ly, my dear!
(...but then again, evidently YOU aren't into those "Teddy Bear" types EITHER, huh?!)
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Oh you poor kid! Born too late, EH?!
I was GLUED to that old Philco 17in TV set whenever this version of The Man of Steel was broadcast, and can STILL hum its stirring theme song to this very day!
(...and don't forget George's turn on Oahu in a film that depicts the goings-on just before and after December 7, 1941, too)
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Good guess. That crystal ball Professor Marvel sold you works very well!
Yep, and after I thought of George, I immediately went to his Wiki page to confirm what I thought.
(...btw, I remember like it was yesterday the day in my second grade class when after little Randy Marley told us that Superman had shot himself, the general consensus among my peers was that there just HAD to have been some Kryptonite laying around in close proximity to him at the time for THAT to have happened!!!)
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june fifteenth
Tomorrow: an iconic TV star decides to end it all…
Lemme guess here, TB!
Should I..ahem.."Look! Up in the sky!", to watch this one coming???
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Did Rock Hudson ever make a good movie?
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Not to quibble here Lorna, but I'd place CARNIVAL OF SOULS over in the "good" column, as even though it's decidedly a low budget film, I think it one of the better low budget movies ever made.