[The one where she spends a lot of time with a man who is not her husband]

How about a non sexist flip on this....what about all the movies where the husband spends lots of time with a woman who is not his wife?

 

I object, Arturo! That's STILL "sexist"!!!

 

Actually, I'm not quite sure why you would used the term "sexist"(okay, actually you used "non sexist"...same-difference however) here, as that term now days implies a negative connotation, and whereas I DO believe TB's thread title MIGHT be vaguely accused of being "gender specific" but HARDLY "sexist".

 

And, NOT to mention that in almost all of the replies which have been offered up so far in his thread, some of them such as my own "THERE'S ALWAYS TOMORROW" reply would fit very nicely into your so-called "non-sexist" alternate title, wouldn't you say?!

 

(...and sorry if this sounds unduly argumentative here, but I have "a thing" about the proper use of this crazy hodgepodge of a language known as English, as I find the practice of selecting JUST the right word or words to convey a thought occasionally helps make my many attempts at humor slightly more successful...though of course THIS thought, the whole "successful" thing here that is, MIGHT be a very argumentative topic in and of ITSELF, huh!!!) LOL

 

[Warner Bros. Delaying Films?]

I just recently started to receive GetTV on my cable system. GetTV is affiliated  with Sony so they have access to the Colombia films. Right now GetTV is showing both DR STRANGELOVE and FAIL SAFE . GetTV does have some commercials during their film broadcasts (like MOVIES! channel and others)  I don't know if they do any editing for content or running time.

 

Well Mr.R, at least you'll know if they ADDED to Strangelove if you see a pie throwing fight at the end of it anyway, RIGHT?!

[Faye Dunaway honored on August 15 During Summer Under The Stars]

 

 

Born Bascom, Florida and University of Florida graduate.

 

And yet DESPITE that, she would go on to become a success!!!

 

(...sorry Jake, couldn't resist...jus' kiddin')

[Shirley Jones on TCM]

1953 was kind of a low point for Sinatra and he was hanging around the set of Mogambo and driving Gardner up the wall.  She called Harry Cohn at Columbia and somehow convinced him to test Sinatra for the role of Maggio in FROM HERE TO ETERNITY.

 

Wow! So it was AVA who instigated that whole "horse head" thing, EH???!!!

 

(...never heard THAT one before...man, the stuff you learn here at TCM.com!!!) 

[In the Heat of the Night (1967)]

 

TCMModerator1, on 07 May 2014 - 06:29 AM, said:

Thanks for trying to get this thread back on topic!

 

For those who want to discuss David Bowie's acting/music career please start up a new thread and discuss it there.

 

Thanks!

 

 

Very sorry about that!

 

Oh, now don't feel too sorry about this, Gay!

 

(...sometimes these threads around here just somehow go through these sorta  "ch-ch-changes", ya know!)  

[Disappointed in TCM's last airing of How The West Was Won]

Btw, and speakin' o' "blondes"...I wonder what kind of effect we would have gotten if the ultimate hourglass-shaped Mae West had ALSO appeared in this flick and in this smile-box format???

 

(...I guess we'll never know, huh!)

[Disappointed in TCM's last airing of How The West Was Won]

I had a hard time getting past the desperate blonde wanting to marry Jimmy Stewart in the buckskins.

 

Well, Carroll Baker always DID pretty much play the "desperate blonde" TYPE, didn't SHE?!

[Disappointed in TCM's last airing of How The West Was Won]

I was hoping for the smilebox instead we got a conventional letterbox presentation. Is smilebox just for special occasions? Those closing california panoramas really looked awesome smileboxed.

 

Not to nitpick here ND, but If you're referring to your thumbnail image here and not to the closing aerial footage of L.A.'s Harbor Freeway(and while Spencer Tracy narrates how we would ultimately tame or I suppose "win" The West by the middle of the 20th Century) in this film, that would be Utah's Monument Valley, and not California.

 

(...and trust me here...being a man who for many years as an Angeleno had to utilize the aforementioned Harbor Freeway in his many commutes, NOBODY "wins" anymore whenever they have to use THAT sucker!!!) LOL

[Sequels: the Good, the Bad, and the Many]

Well, two sequels that are almost universally hailed "as the best sequels ever made" and/or "better than the original" would be THE GODFATHER: Part II, and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. However, personally I've always thought that with the original films bearing the additional task of introducing the characters in each of these series to the public AND doing that SO well, that it makes that second thought of "better than the original" somewhat of an unfair comparison.

[Warner Bros. Delaying Films?]

I was going to post this but got sidetracked.

 

Actually both Strangelove and Fail Safe (both Columbia films) were ready for release when Columbia realized that releasing two films with essentially the same story would not be good business.

 

And this is the curious part: somehow, Kubrick was able to talk the studio into releasing Strangelove first. Commercially, that seems totally bass-ackerds to me, and pretty much killed the box office chances for Fail Safe.

 

Seems to me a shrewder strategy would been: release the deadly serious movie first, then people will still be interested in seeing it spoofed. Who would want to watch Henry Fonda grimacing on the hot line after hearing Peter Sellers ask for Omsk information?

 

Yep, I remember you making this point a while back RK, and I have to say I agree with you.

 

(...and in addition, and in essence, it would be akin to releasing "Airplane" before "Zero Hour", as there would be no earlier reference to play off of for comic effect) 

[Warner Bros. Delaying Films?]

Though the film was produced by Columbia and not WB, Dr. Strangelove's release in the United States was delayed by a couple of months due to the assassination of President Kennedy, as it was felt that the public was in no mood for such a film any sooner.

 

The movie reflects this in an unusual and nearly undetectable dub job. After going over the contents of the survival kits on board the B-52, Major Kong is heard to say "A fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff." "Vegas" was dubbed in for "Dallas", which Slim Pickens as Major Kong initially filmed before JFK's assassination in Dallas.

[Which actor or actress squeezed the studios the best]

How about the one that did the worst?

 

Marlon Brando ran up huge phone long-distance bills -- something like $50K -- while filming The Nightcomers in England. While shooting his next film he asked the studio for the money to pay his phone bill. The studio chief, Robert Evans, agreed to give it to him, but only if Brando gave up his points in the film he was shooting -- The Godfather.

 

Yes RK, but don't forget here that...and according to Brando's Wiki page:

 

According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Brando was paid a record $3.7 million ($14 million in inflation-adjusted dollars) and 11.75% of the gross profits for 13 days work playing Jor-El in Superman, further adding to his mystique.

[The one where she spends a lot of time with a man who is not her husband]

Right after this scene Joan calls the insurance man and asks about "double indemnity" life insurance policies ("He doesn't actually have to read and sign this does he?" )

 

LOL

 

Good point, Mr. R! Yep, Wilder's classic Noir would be another very good example of Fred and the married Babs "spending a lot of time together", wouldn't it!

[The one where she spends a lot of time with a man who is not her husband]

TB, your bringing up of Barbara Stanwyck here has reminded me of THERE'S ALWAYS TOMORROW (1956), and where Babs starts spending a whole lot of time with Fred MacMurray who IS married to Joan Bennett.

 

 

(...this would kind of count here, right?!..I mean, Fred "is not her husband")

[The one where she spends a lot of time with a man who is not her husband]

And then on a much less lighthearted note, there's THAT FORSYTE WOMAN, and where Greer Garson begins spending more time with Robert Young and then Walter Pigeon than with her coldhearted hubby Errol Flynn.

[The one where she spends a lot of time with a man who is not her husband]

Why, TB! I'm surprised you didn't also mention your gal Claudette's turn in THE PALM BEACH STORY at the same time here?!

 

'Cause she sure spends a whole lot of time with Rudy Vallee, and even though she's married to Joel McCrea in that one...

 

[Movies You Can't Stand That Everyone Else Loves]

That's pretty bad

 

Yep, it's THAT bad, alright!

 

(...well, except for the pleasure of lookin' at a very young Michelle Pfeiffer and some motorcycle action scenes, anyway)  

[Gone With The Wind]

The most important thing I got out of the movie over the years is "BUY LAND.... IT'S THE ONLY THING THAT LASTS." Thus, as more people are always being born every year, there will always be less and less land per person every year, and its value will always go up.

 

And thus explaining those recent polls which show 97% of all Remax agents holding a favorable view of GWTW.

 

(...and regardless their ethnicity!!!)  

[Classic Films About Writers]

OH! And, how about 1949's "Madame Bovary", and which opens and closes with James Mason portraying 19th Century French novelist Gustave Flaubert defending his writing of this novel in a French court of law against the charges of "being a disgrace to France and an insult to womanhood"?

[Classic Films About Writers]

Hmmmm....lets see here. They must be pre-1980 and about a famous writer, not a fictional one, eh?!

 

Then this disqualifies 1976's "The Front", which presents fictionalized writers who were blacklisted during the '50s and who ask a non-writer(Woody Allen) to front for them, and it disqualifies 2000's "Wonder Boys", a story about a fictional college English professor/novelist suffering from writer's block.

 

(...I especially liked the latter here) 

 

Okay then, how about two movies made in 1960 about Oscar Wilde? "Oscar Wilde" starring Robert Morley, and "The Trials of Oscar Wilde" starring Peter Finch. 

[Gone With The Wind]

Keep pressin' the point here Holden, and 5'll getcha 10 YOU'LL end up on Fred's Ignore function TOO, dude!!!

 

ROFL

[Oh, that face, that fabulous face. Whose is it?]

You'd know this guy from a million movies - without all the extra facial hair.

 

He wouldn't have gone on to become a bank examiner after the war, and who during the Christmas season prefers to spend it with his family in Elmira NY, would he Kid?!

 

(...in other words, Charles Halton) 

[Movies You Can't Stand That Everyone Else Loves]

GREASE = yuck!

 

Then WHATEVER you do LP, do NOT ever watch GREASE 2.

 

(...'cause it makes the original seem like SINGIN' IN THE RAIN by comparison, and you may find a whole new appreciation for Travolta's singing!) 

[Bogart Vs. Cagney Vs. Robinson]

Interesting that in Ben's outro for LOVE IN THE AFTERNOON, he mentioned that the Cooper-Audrey pairing lacked credibility because Cooper looked so wasted, and also mentioned that Bogart was even older than Cooper when paired with Audrey in SABRINA. I would add, though, that he didn't look quite as wasted as Cooper.

 

I've said the following before around here...

 

While I've always loved Bogie in almost everything he was ever in, he was sorely miscast in Sabina, and his role should have been played by Robert Taylor instead.

 

(...'cause I can see Audrey falling for him in the end, and have never found her falling for Bogie believable in the least)

[Gone With The Wind]

Give it up, Holden. Ya see, even using the same example I used earlier about all the various EUPHEMISMS used in this film(remember my earlier little, "So Fred, I suppose you ALSO think Belle Watling was in the 'entertainment business'" question?), there's NO way in hell you will ever get Fred to admit you might have a valid point.

 

(...you DO realize this, doncha?!!)