Dargo
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Dargo makes a point that maybe the tide had changed. That would be a very valid point if the years was 1942 but Casablanca is set in a time prior to the USA joining the war. The tide at that time in that area was still very much with the Germans. Renault wouldn't of risks his neck until he saw a least some allied waves.
Eeh! Louis was one smart cookie, now wasn't he?! And so I'm SURE he just figured after watching Rick dispatch Col. Strasser so handily, that once a good ol' American boy like Rick took a stand against The Bosch, it was all pretty much over but the shoutin', THAT'S all!
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Yes indeed! Welcome back, Tom! Glad to see ya back, also!
However, in reply to the following:We're such a superficial, beauty-obsessed society (not that it probably hasn't always been this way).
THE "most beautiful" thing ANYONE can display to the world is and always has been self-confidence, and unfortunately for Miss Novak is something she never seemed to possess.
(...and which she herself made painfully clear in your recent interview with Bob Osborne)
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And to briefly revisit the idea that for Renault to change sides at the end of the picture is somehow "out of character", allow me here to use some his own words from earlier in the film:
"I have no conviction, if that's what you mean. I blow with the wind, and the prevailing wind happens to be from Vichy."
And so, who's to say that Louis didn't feel a little "change in the weather" was coming on, HUH?!
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Confessional here:
Many, but not all of the Coen Bros movies. Fargo is the top of the list.
Yeah, I know. You folks from THAT part of the country STILL are a little miffed about those accents used in that one, aren't ya?!
(...well sorry Char, but after all the time I spent in Minneapolis while attending recurrent training classes for Northwest Airlines, in brrrrrrrrr JANUARY I might add!, that's EXACTLY how you folks SOUND up in that, brrrrrrrr, neck of the woods!!!!)
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Ok, "this means war", as Bugs Bunny ominously declared once. Several times, actually.
(I'm just kidding, keep your underwear on everyone. It's just fun to say "This means war!".)
Ahem...let us not forget that Bugs "borrowed" that line from the guy whose picture you see off to the left here, MissW...err...Edith!
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In effort to answer this question I went to IMDb's "Top 250, as voted by regular IMDb users", and to see if I could find a movie on that list which I've found "I couldn't stand".
And ya know, after thinking about each and every movie for a few seconds on that list and which I've ever watched, I can honestly say that none of them elicited that sort of negative response by me. Maybe I'm just too "easy" and/or "undiscerning", eh?!
(...oh wait...okay...there were a few films on that list directed by Ingmar Bergman which have always put me to sleep every time I've attempted to sit through them, but I wouldn't necessarily say "I cain't stand 'em"...as Lina Lamont might say!)
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That's the way I've always heard it to be.
12:01 AM Jan 1, 1900 would have been the first minute of the turn of the 20th Century. I remember it being that way for at least 55 of my years during the 20th Century. I never heard anyone say "turn of the 19th Century", unless they were referring to Jan 1, 1800.
During those 55 years, I often heard of it as "before the turn of the century" (meaning the late 1800s) and after the turn of the century (meaning the early 1900s).
However, it is easy to get mixed up. And I'm sure that if you press the issue, we would see a long debate here.
Sorry Fred, but you're a whole year off in this. Because the 1st Century AD began 12:01AM Jan 1. in the YEAR ONE AD(there was no "Year Zero AD"), and thus the completion of the 1st Century would have been 11:59PM Dec 31 of the year 100, and thus making the beginning of the 2nd Century (aka the "Turn of the 2nd Century) at one second after Midnight Jan 1, of the year 101.
And thus, taking this forward each and every "Turn of the Century", the 20th Century ACTUALLY began on Jan 1st, 1901, and this latest century, the 21st, actually began in the year 2001.
(...though don't feel too badly about this misconception of yours, as many many people have made and continue to make this mistake...though then again you probably WON'T feel too badly about this because I believe you still have me on your ignore function, and thus won't be able to read and understand how you've been under this misconception like so many others continue to be)
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Yeah, you're certainly right about the opening scene map there, Char.
It is MUCH better than if Curtiz would've opened the movie with THIS one instead...
(...sorry, couldn't resist)
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Yeah, and besides, I don't I could take lookin' at his hair during State of the Union speeches for very long!
(...NOT to mention that little pursed-lip thing he does!!!)
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I wonder if you guys would feel the same way about this if Drew had a sexy overbite like Gene had???
(...oh...wait...Gene never sounded like a Valley Girl, huh....never mind)
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Of course the ALTERNATE tactic would have been to just make fun of herself and the whole plastic surgery thing like Joan Rivers always has!
(...of course THAT takes the ability of bein' able to LAUGH at one's self...an ability which seems rarer and rarer in modern society)
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Based on experience I believe the users at this forum feel free to share how they feel about a given actor or film.
The only off limit person is Barbara Stanwyck!
Whaddaya MEAN, "Stanwyck", James???
I THOUGHT it was "Jane Fonda" who was "off limits" around here, DUDE?!!!
(...you know, because how threads about HER always seem to segue into, lets say, "peripheral issues", and just like I expect THIS thread about BIG DUKE to fall into at any moment now!!!)
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but I can't rank the movie in my top 50 when the movie revolves around a character that I just can't stand. Even Cody Jarrett is more appealing to me!Well then James, in THAT case, would it make any difference to ya at all if say Scarlett would have just once said in the thing....
"TOP O' THE WORLD, MAMMY! TOP O' THE WORLD!" ???
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I find that it is a fairly common error for people to think that the years of a century start with the first year related to that century; e.g. that the 20th century must start with the year 2000. I know a lot of people that were confused on new year's eve in 1999 when I said the 21st century was about to begin (ok they were rather drunk also). I had to play the Kinks' song 20th Century Man to convince them!
So James! Are you sayin' The Mankster was at that party????
(...I'll bet he still had that little goatee, didn't he?!)
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Yes, it looks like the system copied the quote ok, but it did censor several of the words with ****.\
You can do a Google search for the PDF file by using the title of the book as keywords:
http://www.umsl.edu/~gradyf/film/Selznick_memos.pdf
Fred, I gotta say for once your research just might have legitimately supported a contention of yours!!!
(...though I'm tellin' ya right now I AIN'T takin' back my "Belle Watling" reply, 'cause I have a feelin' after reading that memo, that the primary reason why David O. soft-pedaled the whole "Kl*n thing" in that sequence was ONLY because he didn't want to hurt the box office in Kl*n Country!!!!)
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FredC,
I think there is. It's implied in the movie in the scene where Rhett returns with the wounded Ashley Wilkes from a late night meeting about what to do in the wake of Scarlett O'Hara Hamilton Kennedy getting attacked while riding in her buggy through the shanty town.
The men in the meeting must have tried to do something because Frank Kennedy got killed and Ashley was wounded. It's one reason Rhett acts drunk and the women chide him for getting Ashley drunk when the Army men come knocking on the door to see what Rhett knows about the meeting and the raid afterwards.
But it's kind of implied in the movie that Rhett, Frank and Ashley were at the **** meeting.
But whatever type of group meeting they were at, a decision was made to raid Shantytown in retaliation for what happened to Scarlett and Frank Kennedy was killed in the raid.
And THUS just ONE of the reasons I LIKE this flick!
C'mon now people! HOW in the world can you NOT like the scene when Gable replies to Ward Bond after Bond asks him, "Do you swear as a gentleman that these two were with you all night?", and Gable says, "As a 'gentleman'? Why SURE I do!"
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There is no Kl*n in the movie.
Yeah Fred...riiiiight. And Belle Watling was just in the "entertainment business" too, RIGHT?!
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Thanks lavender, but I just figured this COULD be finance's big break, THAT'S all!
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I am 65 going on 25....
So finance ol' buddy, how's your singing voice?
(...'cause I hear they're casting for the geriatric edition of "The Sound of Music" at the Cherry Hill Retirement Center just across the river from ya next Tuesday!)
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Well, Ms. Parfitt wasn't wearing a wimple in "Jewel in the Crown." She played Mildred Layton, mother of Sarah and Susan, and one of the bitchiest characters ever to grace Masterpiece Theater!
Hmmmm...is it only ME, or does Judy here have a little "Jared Leto in the Dallas Buyers Club" thing goin' on here????
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Perhaps due to his being at his peak, filmwise, with Of Human Bondage, The Scarlet Pimpernel, The Petrified Forest, Pygmalion and Intermezzo. That's an impressive resume' to say the least. I haven't read any "official" books on the subject, so who knows, eh?
AND perhaps because, save his turn as the heroic title character in "The Scarlet Pimpernel" on the aforementioned list, Howard by the time Selznick secured the films rights to Mitchell's novel, had established his screen persona as pretty much the ultimate "introspective, intellectual, often vacillating and gentlemanly" type, which fit the Wilkes character to a tee.
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I always had kind of a crush on that lady, Darg.
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She kind of reminds me of Dorothy Provine.
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In the 1934 movie "Happiness Ahead" Dick Powell's character unknowingly kisses Josephine Hutchinson's character as they usher in the New Year at a darken Chinese restaurant. This can only happen in the movies. If a man tried or succeeded in trying to kiss a woman he did not not know in the dark and the lights came back on in the restaurant, I guarantee you she would slap the fire out of his face and/or spew some bad words in his direction. Then again with the lack of civility and social skills in our culture today as soon as the woman slapped his face the man would probably slap her face.
Now Tom, wouldn't that all depend upon how attractive said woman would find said man after the lights came back on?
Saaaaay, kinda like this scene here?!...
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And yet another interesting alternative might be Canadian director Denys Arcand's 1989 film, "Jesus of Montreal", which allegorically updates the Passion Play to modern times.
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I guess your husband hasn't watched any films with Scarlett Johansson in 'em, eh rosebette?!
(...'cause while I personally don't find her all THAT "beautiful", there is NO denyin' that THAT young lady's bod harks back to those days of yore!)