Dargo
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Good point about Lulu's (Jones') "fate", Charlotte. However, there is a part in the film where she tells Elmer that her Bible-thumpin' father kicked her out of the house as a consequence for her falling for Elmer years earlier.
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Okay, now that I've got THAT ONE out o' my system here....
Actually, I'm pretty sure Ben DID mention Shirley Jones being in *Elmer Gantry,* though I think you're right (but I wouldn't swear to it) about him not mentioning her winning the Oscar for her supporting role.
And, Ben said Selznick "failed" in his efforts at making Jennifer Jones "the TOP actress in Hollywood", NOT that he failed in making her a "star".
(...not that I'm defending the little guy here...I'm just tryin' to be fair, that's all)
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Hmmmmm...well then, it just sounds to ME as if Ben hasn't fallen into that old trap!
What "old trap" you ask?! Why..."Keeping up with the Joneses", of course!!!
(...sorry, couldn't resist)
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> {quote:title=doctorxx wrote:}{quote}How did she become a star? She could not act, sing or dance! She was attractive in the hispanic vein but so were many others.Just what did she have? Friends in high places at Universal?
Simple answer here Doc! Word was she made the best eschiladas west of Alameda Blvd back in the day! And, word ALSO was that the boys at Universal's front office back then had a real thing for fare from south of the border.
(...and ya know what they say about the quickest way to a man's heart, don't ya?!)
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Hey Eugenia! I'm pretty sure you forgot to put a couple of THESE babies HERE ---> " around that word talented in that sentence of yours there, didn't ya???
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> {quote:title=willbefree25 wrote:}{quote}What a fun story, Kyle. I doubt I would have been so cool about it.
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> In LA, celebrity too oftens counts for something which I feel is really of no value.
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> Ain't that the truth, current media is proof positive of it.
Now willbe! WHY are ya bein' so hard on the Kardashians here, HUH???
(...haven't those poor folks been kicked around enough lately?!!!)
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> {quote:title=JakeHolman wrote:}{quote}Hey, dergo, check out...google...Genesis Veracity Foundation...
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> Old School...Jake Holman....
Eeh! I can tell ya RIGHT now Jake ol' boy, that once Peter Gabriel(no relation to the angel, I understand) left that rock band, it was NEVER as good!
(...nope, and I don't care HOW much "veracity" this here Foundation y'all is talkin' about claims it has!!!)
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> {quote:title=JakeHolman wrote:}{quote}*I thank you for the recommendation.*
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> You're welcome. You will read writings from John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, Thomas Jefferson, George Washington (My Favorite), James Madison *and other right-wing radicals.*
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> Jake in the Heartland
Actually Jake, good try there ol' buddy, BUT I'm sorry to inform you here that the gentlemen you listed there WOULD of course have been known as "left-wing radicals" during their time on earth.
(...AND in fact, WOULD probably STILL be considered as such to this very day by most people...but like I said, good try there with the ol' "Let's Claim Them As Our Own" ploy...yep, VERY good try there, sir...but unfortunately for you, there'll be no cigar today!) :^0
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Now Charlotte! Are you telling us here that you believe in what that godless devil of a man on the right in this picture was attemptin' to tell us MORE than the "obvious truths" that that devout and learned man of the people on the left in this picture was tellin' us??? :0
(...once again, in the immortal words of one Claude Rains, "I'm shocked, SHOCKED" to learn of this!!!)
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Btw folks, I happened to catch that Troy Donahue movie, *Parrish* , the other night on TCM for the first time ever, AND I gotta tell ya right now that it's probably gonna take viewing THAT one AT LEAST forty or fifty more times before I warm up to THAT turkey!!!
(...BUT somethin's tellin' me right now that I seriously doubt I'll EVER give that one another chance to grow on me!)
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> {quote:title=NormaShearerGirl wrote:}{quote}In all honesty, I never saw a old film that I didn't like.
Then I'm guessin' ANY movie with Will Rogers in it is ESPECIALLY high on your list, eh Norma???
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"EVERYTHING"???!!!
Now finance ol' buddy, you've evidently forgotten what ANOTHER famous Ben from YOUR neck-of-the-woods there in Philly was famous for saying: "Haste makes Waste...and seldom puts a smile on fair lady's face"!!!
(...okay, so I added that second part there)
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Well rover, I have to say that offhand I REALLY wouldn't know if what you allege about Hillsdale College's agenda is true or not.
(...but IF what you suggest MIGHT be true, then in the immortal words of one Claude Rains, I would be "shocked, SHOCKED" to discover that of ALL the people around here, Jake from the Heartland would be the one to bring this institution of higher learning into this discussion as a valid source for information!!!)
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Okay, once again, is it only me, or does Orson there look an awful lot like Robert Preston?
(...could that be 'cause it appears Orson might be wearing his fake nose again?)
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> {quote:title=TomJH wrote:}{quote}
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> One of my favourite screen drunk scenes, *Frederic March in The Best Years of Our Lives*, when they're in the bar and March starts to flirt and dance with wife Myrna Loy, not even knowing that she's his wife because of his drinking. March gave us a classic screen moment there.
> I was thinking of Fredric March in *TBYOOL* also, Tom.
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However, don't forget March is a little tipsy almost throughout the picture, as it appears his drinking is somewhat "helping" him cope with his return to civilian life.
And so, MY favorite scene of his in that film where he appears to have had a few too many is where he stands up and gives his speech(and a not too subtle public dressing down to his boss) at his Welcome Home banquet.
(...and I love Myrna Loy in that scene also, where she's taking her folk to tally how many drinks her husband has had, and especially the way she beams with pride at him as he completes his speech...that never fails to put a lump in my throat)
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My thoughts on this issue:
First, I agree with SansFin here that "showing theatrical movies in classrooms when there is not a certified and approved educational documentary on the same subject available" presents "little harm".
However, least we not forget that in some, if not many cases, even "documentaries" can have a point-of-view aspect to them, and sometimes even verging upon this whole "propagandizing" effect which FredCDobb brought up earlier in this discussion. In other words, even "documentaries" shouldn't be thought of a "sacrosanct" in all regards.
Secondly, I must disagree with SansFin in regard to her "Are You Smarter than a Fifth-Grader?" point, and where she questions the idea that learning "arcane facts" is of little to no importance.
The reason I question this is because whenever people DON'T know those "arcane facts", then it becomes increasingly easier for those who would attempt to gain leadership in our daily lives(such as, say, politicians) can throw out ANY tidbits of "information" which they will conjure up and present this "info" as "facts", but may NOT INFACT be factual at all. This of course is all done to have people "believe" these presenters as "the tellers of"truth" and so to have themselves garner some measure of "leadership". BUT, when one DOES "know the facts", it becomes harder for these "presenters" to sway us to "their side", which I feel would almost always be preferable in any attempts toward taking steps to that oft-mentioned and desirable quantity known as "An Informed Electorate"...something of which I believe is, or at least should be the goal and the basic fundament of any educational system, either public OR private.
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Unless I've missed her being mentioned here already, might I humbly nominate the name of Irene Dunne into this thing here.
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> {quote:title=FloydDBarber wrote:}{quote}Does anyone know who made the statement "If only he could have used his evil for good" or whatever the comment was.
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> Was it from a television show or a movie?
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> Edited by: FloydDBarber on Mar 3, 2012 2:16 AM
I believe you're thinking of a Maxwell Smart quote here, Floyd. And, I believe the line was somethin' like..."If only he could have used his evil powers for goodness instead of badness!"
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Hey TB, how about if we add *Wonder Boys* (2000) to the Michael Douglas list here?
Haven't watched it since its theatrical release, but I remember really liking that quirky little film about Academia.
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Once again, don't get me wrong here, as Steverino's syndicated early evening talk show of the late '60s was a favored mainstay at our household when I was a teenager, I've always been a fan of Allen and think he was, as you suggest, the pioneer and standard to which all subsequent talk show hosts would be judged.
I just think Carson, let's say, "perfected" the format and brought more viewers to it.
Btw, speaking of Allen and Carson...while Letterman is said to have idolized the latter, his shows both at NBC and later at CBS, and his even his personality, has always been much more attuned to the former, as you may have noticed.
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}Steve Allen was the pioneer. Without him, there would have been no Carson, and IMHO, he was better than Carson.
Absolutely agree with ya on your first two points here finance, however while you're certainy allowed your opinion, I believe your latter point is debatable, though Allen certaining was also great at hosting talk shows, among the many other talents he possessed.
(...however, back to my earlier point, Steverino certainly never received these now commonplace "Tonight Show" standing ovations either)
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Congratulations Liz and Joe! Here's to your lasting union!
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> {quote:title=Sepiatone wrote:}{quote}
> Y'know, what's always tickled me about Russel's performance is the fact that he wasn't an actor to begin with. Yet in this film, appearing with many of Hollywood's best and highly respected, manages to steal every scene he's in, and outshines most of the rest! And even after seeing that movie a thousand times, I STILL choke up everytime I see the scene where he finally puts his arms around Wilma, and the look on her face when he does. Cripes, I'm tearing up just POSTING about it!
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Ya know Sepia it's kinda funny, but even though *The Best Years of Our Lives* has been one of my three favorite films since, well since ever, and I've probably watched it more than a dozen times...up until about a year ago I would have disagreed with you about Harold Russell's performance, as I always thought I could "see his acting". In other words, I thought he was totally outclassed by the rest of cast who were trained as actors to not seem as if they were indeed acting.
However, THAT was how I had felt up until my last viewing of the film about a year ago. Now, I don't know what it was exactly THIS time, as the scene in Homer's bedroom toward the end of the film where Wilma tucks him into bed and she reaffirms her love for him and after she leaves we see that tear run down Homer's face has ALWAYS brought tears to my eyes also...well, as I was saying here, I don't really know why, but after my last viewing of the film, I remember thinking to myself something like, "Ya know, Harold Russell WAS damn good in that film! Why did I ever think he wasn't?"
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What?! Unless I've missed it somehow, nobody has yet posted the link to the Monkees recording with which Davy is most associated.
Okay, then allow me...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehJNw-T3gpo
(...RIP Davy Jones)
Hollywood and television in the '50's
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> {quote:title=finance wrote:}{quote}There was synergy between Warner Bros. TV and the studio. Actors introduced in various TV series were used in the studio's films.
Yep, and I often get the impression that many if not most of WB's B&W theatrically released "B-movies"(especially) made during the latter half of the 1950s and on through to the mid-to-late 1960s look like quickly churned-out made-for-TV fare, too.