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4 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:
Ha ha, you won't get a nod of recognition from me. I just threw out two random early '80s acts that popped into my head with weird names. After "Weird Science", my Oingo Boingo knowledge is pretty scant. Love Elfman's later TV and movie score work, though.
I'm sorta surprised I haven't gotten "Mack the Knife" yet, given how huge a hit it was. I do have the Louis Armstrong version from 1956 and the Ella Fitzgerald live in Berlin version from 1960, but not his.
So, you're sayin' you're also not familar with 'Dead Man's Party'?
(...cool song)
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23 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:
No, I've attained all my knowledge of the music of that era secondhand, largely from my iTunes collection, which now boasts more than 1,400 songs, all of them released before 1970, my own self-imposed purchase restriction, as I try to learn more about the music of the past. But I've only got one song out of those 1,400 from Bobby Darin, and it's "Splish Splash". And none from the Four Preps.
I'm a child of the '70s and an adolescent of the early '80s. I can ramble incessantly about the subtle differences between Adam Ant and Oingo Boingo, perhaps!
Ya know, you're gonna have'ta at least add Bobby's two biggest hits to your collection, 'Mack the Knife' and the previously mentioned one, in order to do modicum justice to his career, don't ya?!
(...btw and re Oingo Boingo...can you tell me why so many people seem to be unfamilar with their 'Dead Man's Party' song?...I've always thought it one of the best Halloween-themed songs out there and right up there with MJ's 'Thriller', and yet when I mention this to people, I seldom get a nod of recognition about this...could it be because Danny Elfman's group was mostly known on the West Coast at the time?)
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1 minute ago, sewhite2000 said:
While I'm aware they're two distinct songs, it's possible I confused their lyrics in my memory banks!
Sure, and considering that these two recordings hit the charts within a year of each other (1958 and 1959) I suppose this might be the case here.
(...oh, wait...you weren't around yet at that time were ya, kid...never mind)
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4 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:
It was this song and it's reference to "across the sea" that made me assume Catalina was much further away from the mainland US than it actually is!
Remember here sewhite, The Four Preps specifically sang "26 MILES across the sea", and not "SOMEWHERE beyond the sea" like Bobby Darin did!
(...and so I'm still havin' a little problem understandin' your confusion here, my friend)
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9 hours ago, Sepiatone said:
Well, the Hardy family hasn't been the same since Oliver went way out west.
Sepiatone
Or even since Thomas moved far from the madding crowd.
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1 hour ago, Mr. Gorman said:
@VAUTRIN: Here's an old joke I remember reading probably 30 years ago. Or more.
A young college boy comes home for Winter Vacation and his dad asks him how things are going.
The college boy says to his Dad "I think my roommate is turning queer!"
Dad says "What makes you think that, Son?"
The son answers "Well, he's started closing his eyes every time I kiss him!" 😜
SAY! This one's pretty good, Mr.G.
But for MY money, the earlier mentioned "Chinaman" joke that Nicholson tells in the movie ChinaTOWN is STILL a little bit funnier.
Of course then again, this COULD be because Jack's comic timing in that one is so damn good!
(...okay, and now were we here?...oh yeah..."wokeness"...as you can maybe tell here, I don't let that sort'a thing affect me much...and even THOUGH there's NO way in HELL I'd PERSONALLY tell EITHER one of 'em NOW days!)
LOL
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6 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
Nah. Considering his SIZE( height-wise) he'd have been good as BOO-BOO!
Or maybe a KOALA. 
Sepiatone
Okay, but Boo-Boo WAS a bear TOO, now wasn't HE?!
(...he twern't no aardvark, ya know)
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25 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:
Well, I never thought of or otherwise HEARD of Hoskins being referred to as "bear-like". But ASNER on the other hand........
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Really? C'mon now, Sepia.
I mean, he's already got on the TIE, and so all he needs is a HAT and don't ya think Hoskins here could've EASILY played Yogi Bear in some live action version of that old Hanna-Barbera cartoon series?!!!...
LOL
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54 minutes ago, ElCid said:
Just being pedantic, but in "car speak" hardtop means no B pillar. Manufacturers originally referred to them as "hardtop convertibles," but that was totally confusing/misleading so they eventually dropped the convertible part.
Yep. Thanks Cid, but I did know this, and only included that for those around here who might not have known the difference between the traditionally applied terms of "sedan" and "hardtop".
(...however, and considering that most all of those who frequent slayton's thread here probably already knew this, I suppose this little bit of info was probably, ahem, "superfluous" on my part, wasn't it)
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23 hours ago, Twokeets said:
I'm open minded in general, but there are a few actors I can't enjoy at this point. One is Peter Lawford! It is said that he had something to do with the death of Marilyn Monroe. Of course it's part of a theory, but it bothers me, and I guess his acting never really grabbed me anyway.
Have to say I personally only ever had ONE thing against Peter Lawford.
Uh-huh, ya see this English dude became an American citizen in 1960, right?! BUT even after that AND until the day he died, word is the guy STILL persisted in spelling certain words with that REALLY needless superfluous letter 'U'!!!
(...there, I've said it AND I'm glad I've finally gotten this off my chest once and for all!)
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10 hours ago, slaytonf said:
It's my browser. I tried a different one and the pic came up. The car looks like it could munch serious pavement.
Oh, it could alright.
In 1965 and when I was 13, my father purchased a very nice used '62 Caddy Sedan Deville (four door hardtop with no B-pilar) just like this one here in Burgundy red metallic paint and white leather interior...
...and during that summer, he and my mom and I hopped in that big ol' boat and cruised effortlessly from L.A. to Yellowstone N.P. and back.
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33 minutes ago, slaytonf said:
For some reason you pic didn't come through, Dargo.
Interesting, as it sure popped up on my computer screen again and after just now coming back to your thread to see what your reply to me was here.
Maybe try refreshing your display.
(...and once it DOES show up on your screen...am I RIGHT?!...she DOES look like Don Grady there, doesn't SHE?!)
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11 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
I've got to be honest. I live 800 miles away from the ocean. I didn't even know where Catalina was until I Googled it. I thought it was some exotic foreign locale possibly. I had no idea it was something near Los Angeles. I presume it's terribly expensive. Have you had the money to spend time there and then dismiss it as dreary?
When I was growing up in the L.A. area circa the 1960s, I twice took what was called the Great White Steam Ship...
...from San Pedro to Avalon. It took around an hour and a half for this old rust bucket which was built in 1924 (and sunk off Ensenada, Baja Mexico in 1997), to make the 26 miles ("across the sea, Santa Catalina is'a waitin' for me, Santa Catalina the island of romance, ROMANCE, romance, romance"...c'mon, SURELY someone here remembers that 1958 Four Preps hit recording, RIGHT?!!) one way trip there.
By that time the island of Catalina and it biggest town Avalon had pretty much seen better days, BUT I've recently heard that they've done a very nice job of fixing up the place in recent years and now makes for a great day trip or for a stay of a few days.
(...the preceeding has been brought to you by: The Santa Catalina Tourist Bureau AND by the recollections of this old f*rt here)
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And speaking of big (and I mean BIG) and bright red American "boats" (or sometimes also referred to as "Yank Tanks")...
Lindsay Crouse (yeah yeah, I know...doesn't she look like Don Grady from 'My Three Sons' fame here??? LOL) stepping into (or maybe out of) a
1962 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz convertible in the 1987 film House of Games.
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10 hours ago, PhillyCinephile said:
Thought this was a thread about Bob Hoskins...my mistake...
9 hours ago, Sepiatone said:How did you fathom that?
Sepiatone
Does the term "hirsute" ring a bell, Sepia? Or maybe, the idea of a stocky and hairy man such as was Bob Hoskins, being "bear-like"?
I'm pretty sure that this was PhillyCinephile's implication here.
(...and IF it was, they could of course have also referenced Ed Asner)
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4 hours ago, cigarjoe said:
I wonder if that was the first use of the term "The Man" as we now know the term in a film?
Maybe CJ, but don't we now primarly think of the term "The Man" as meaning "the police", and not so much in regard to it meaning some kind of "Mr. Big" in the underworld?
(...btw, I enjoyed The Lineup as well. and like Vautrin, I think I too remember seeing it many years ago...the ending jogged my memory of this)
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Dissenting vote to follow....well okay, kind'a sort'a anyway. Truth is, I like 'em both, and although I DO have to admit the original is a bit better overall.
I've always thought Sinatra was especially good in the role of Mike the reporter. And, I think what saves this musical remake is the singing "duel" between Frank and Bing, THE two biggest recording artists of the mid-20th century at that time, in the "What a Swell Party This Is" number done in the mansion's study. Always have considered this number the real show stopper of the film.
(...c'mon now, HOW can you not like it when Bing sings his signature "Boo boo boo boo" during it, and in immediate reply to it Frank sings "Don't dig that kind'a croonin', chum", and to which Bing then says "You must be one of the newer fellas"...c'mon, ya GOTTA appreciate THAT at least for cryin' out loud, RIGHT?!!!)
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3 hours ago, TomJH said:
Well, gentlemen, I have to say that I still think The Big Country has a pacifist message. And that was never more apparent than in the fight scene between Peck and Heston. They're doing the old fashioned thing seen time after time in westerns, two men battling mano a mano. Yet Wyler turns the tables on a conventional fight scene here, interspersing it with long shots of the slug fest as it proceeds, emphasizing the vastness of the country around them, making their squabble seem insignificant by comparison. Then, after an epic fight of undetermined length, when the two men are both on the ground and have fought to a draw, McKay asks his opponent "Tell me, Leach, what have we proved?" Leach has no answer as McKay walks away.
You will never see a message like this in a John Wayne western.
Well Tom, I DO have to admit that I've at least always admired your (ahem, and if you'll pardon the expression here) "fighting spirit" when it comes to this issue here, anyway!
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29 minutes ago, brianNH said:
...That story, that script, and those actors directed by Wiliam Wyler simply add up for me to be one of the best movies I knew nothing about until only recently. Woe is me that I have squandered the time in other frivolous and fruitless pursuits.
Well, and not to rub it in here Brian, but then I guess I was very lucky to have first caught this film and gain a great appreciation for it during my teenage years back in the late-'60s and when it was telecast on the old ABC Sunday Night Movie series.
(...or else I too might be beating myself up like you seem to be here)
LOL
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13 hours ago, TomJH said:
I've mentioned this before on these boards but I don't think that hard core western buffs (the ones crazy about John Ford, Howard Hawks and John Wayne, for example) care much for THE BIG COUNTRY because one, its sparsity of big action scenes, two, the film's pacifist message and three, William Wyler is not a name associated with the genre. It's more of a cerebral, thinking man's western which will appeal to some, as reflected by the enthusiastic responses to the film on this thread.
This, I suspect, for those of us (and I'm one of you) who love THE BIG COUNTRY may help to explain why it rarely, if ever, seems to get included on many greatest westerns ever made lists. Speaking for myself I think this film has been denied its rightful place as bring regarded as one of the best westerns ever made.
Good insights here, Tom.
Your first paragraph reminded me of one of the responses I got and after I recently started a thread titled something such as "I noticed The Big Country has finally gotten its much deserved four star rating on my channel guide". The response I speak of here and from a regular to these boards but who at the moment I can't recall exactly who it was, was that they called it more a "soap opera than a true western". I then stated that to some degree this might be true, but went on to say that I thought this aspect to it made it an even better film,
(...and come to think of it, I think you even offered up the "pacifist" thought in it too, but I think I then reminded you that when push came to shove, Peck's character didn't shy away from fighting)
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Okay Katie, and seein' as how you've asked here.
My favorite on-screen bear was a lot less threatening a beast than Bart here...and always wore a hat and a tie.
(...and whose lone threat to humans was his constant search of acquiring a pic-a-nic basket or two from the unsuspecting camper)
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On 11/5/2021 at 7:25 PM, Mr. Gorman said:
Well now that you've seen THE BIG COUNTRY again, Brian, let me offer up these ♦nuggets♦ of movie suggestions in case you've not seen these flix:
NIGHT OF THE GRIZZLY, The (1966) Fun stuff! A mean bear named OL' SATAN further complicates Life On The Range for Clint Walker, Martha Hyer and other townsfolk. And then a very menacing Leo Gordon shows up to rain on Clint's parade. OH, LORDY!
A Paramount feature in W/S. Also stars Keenan Wynn, Candy Moore, Ron Ely, Nancy Kulp, John Doucette, Jack Elam, Victoria Paige Meyerink, Ellen Corby, Med Flory.
The 1971 Disney release THE WILD COUNTRY is a proper follow-up to "Night of the Grizzly", I think. Despite the fact it's rated [G] . . . this is not one of those cheery Disney movies. The main villain is part-psycho who goes ape over the possibility of sharing water rights + there's a violent fistfight in front of the Town General Store + some destructive tornado activity that's anything but cheerful. I can't believe THE WILD COUNTRY would have been rated [G] had it not been a Disney movie. With Steve Forrest, Vera Miles, Ron Howard, Morgan Woodward. → Some Disney movies are obviously intended to be very "cutesy" and syrupy. This Disney flick is not like that.
Hey Mr. G. The fight scene in Night of the Grizzly between those two massive men, Clint and Leo, is pretty good, but do you remember this fight scene they did in Walker's Cheyenne '50s western television series?...
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10 hours ago, sewhite2000 said:
I believe this was discussed in at least one previous thread. License has a different spelling in its British and American versions.
Uh-huh, and I think I might have also mentioned a few times the Brits (and Canadians) use of that OH SO superfluous letter 'U' in their spelling practices too.
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8 hours ago, Shank Asu said:
It's funny how my perception of MacMurray changed the first time I watched The Apartment when before I only knew him as the Disney dad and from My Three Sons. Must say I know nothing about his personal life- but i don't think being a tightwad would make me dislike him.
Actually Shank Asu, I really was mostly kidding here about liking Fred less and once I heard he was a noted tightwad in real life.
(...and btw, your surprise at later learning he could also play the more underhanded sort in films, isn't a rare thing of course...seems after people first watch him in The Apartment or Double Indemnity or The Caine Mutiny, and after only knowing him from his old long-running sitcom, many people are surpised and have a similar reaction to yours here)
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