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OKAY then. And NOW where the hell were we in this "Noir" thread, anyway? Oh yeah... No, Joe wasn't being "noble" there, James. What he was being was secretive to Betty about the circumstances of his life at the time. However, and once again, when the chips were down and after the sparks had kindled between Joe and Betty, he did the honorable thing by being brutally honest with her about those circumstances, and all the while knowing that it meant he would lose her. (...ya know, he COULD have just strung her along a lot longer, don't ya?!)

True, but THEN here King Rat, there's the FLIP SIDE of this so-called "Language inflation" of which you speak. Uh-huh, I'm talkin' about those out there who LACK a damn vocabulary past a junior high school level, and which is something, a strong vocabulary that is, that's an absolute necessity in order to express an opinion or thought to its fullest, clearest and most comprehensive. AND, which is something, the LACK of a vocubulary that is, that defined a certain individual who I will now NOT name. (...BUT who I WILL now say Stephen Colbert, and considering his name was brought up earlier here, spent four-plus years mocking, AND to be honest here, I LOVED almost each and every damn time that he DID!)

Can't believe you can't recognize that Joe is actually being noble, yes James, noble, when he has Betty come out to 10086 Sunset Blvd to see how he lives. Everything about it, the way the script is written and the way Holden plays it, points to this. (...and why the death of Joe especially hits hard, as by the thought that basically Joe was a decent guy at heart who didn't deserve his fate)

One of the greatest films ever made about this subject would be...

Gotta say here Yancey, it seems by this you're pretty much sayin' we have yet to reach a time in this country when, and to paraphrase a certain memorable speech once given by a great man of peace: "I look forward to a day when TCM hosts aren't judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their wraparounds!"

And reportedly, when they got the deed to the place, the new owners were heard to exclaim..."Say hello to my little friend...the wrecking ball!"

Yes, EXACTLY!!!

WAIT! Are you tellin' me here Cid that ALL those thousands and thousands of witty posts of mine that I've contributed to these boards all these many years will ONE DAY be lost to posterity TOO???!!! Say it ain't so, Joe...err, I mean CID! (...yeah, actually, I know what you're sayin' here...I've been wonderin' when that day might come to pass too lately)

Yeah, yeah, whatever. Now, what I WANNA know here is who was that hot brunette babe sittin' with Hugo in the FOREGROUND in that pic up there, HUH?!!! Heck, now SHE looks a lot like Linda Darnell and is almost as hot as SHE was. (...forget Cleo here, guys)

Yes, you're right here, Thompson. Tarantino has always been a much better director than he is an actor. (...and have always felt this might stem from how he forms the words of his spoken dialogue out of that weird lookin' little mouth of his)

In that case, here's the very first episode of the Lou Grant series. Enjoy.

The demographic of the people I transport down to and back from the Phoenix airport from here in the Sedona area with this little part-time shuttle driving gig that I've had in my retirement years for about 8 years now does tend to skew to the Boomer generation. I bring this point up because whenever I steer the conversations held inside the van I'm driving to the subject of Movies, I've noticed that the vast majority of my passengers say they seldom watch TCM and/or have only a limited interest in or knowledge of movies, and be those movies defined as "classic" or not. During these conversations (and of which I always attempt to initiate because it makes the two hour drive each way seem a hell of a lot shorter in duration for me...oh, and of course also because I love the sound of my own voice...I DO have a rich, mellifluous and resonant voice, ya know ) whenever I mention my favorite films of all time and after asking what films might be my passengers' favorites, more times than not these passengers might only vaguely recall once watching the movies I've mentioned and which could not in any way be described as "esoteric". Nope, we're talking about movies such as Academy Award winning films like The Best Years of Our Lives, The Apartment, and Casablanca. However and once again though, my passengers are most likely to only recognize the titles of these films at best but have little knowledge of their actual content. (...and so I guess with my point here being that the general public, and yes, even those old enough to have perhaps acquired a taste for classic films and who are not adverse to watching a movie that wasn't filmed in color, is still pretty much a relatively small demographic)

Must have watched this over 50 times in my life, and it still cracks me up every time I see it. (...talk about a "classic"!)

Ya know, EPM. I was just thinkin' here that you and I could probably pull off a pretty good rendition of the mirror sequence in that flick if we worked at it

And here I was thinkin' what a GREAT plan the above would've been for me to use back in my single days too, but THAT was until I read your second paragraph here... And 'cause THEN I realized that this great plan up there wouldn't and couldn't have applied to me. (...nope, you see, I WAS always the best lookin' guy in my group of friends!) LOL

LOL Ah-HA! So THAT'S where I made my mistake all those years, EH?! (...geeez, NOW you tell me!)

Because, and as I'm sure you really know here EPM, the criteria for attractiveness between the sexes has always been different. Men, generally being more visually oriented than women, place a woman's appearance higher on their list of initial desirability than they do character. Why do you think women wear makeup? It's of course to look more attractive. Women generally and on the otherhand place a man's appearance lower on this list, and prize a man's self-assuredness or even imagined self-assuredness higher. Now MANY women will often claim that they find a man with a keen sense of humor very attractive. But I'VE always thought THIS is just a big lie, and 'cause I can't TELL YA how many times over the years I've shown MY "keen sense of humor" to a woman who I'D like to "get to know better" (if ya know what I mean) and I've come away with NOTHIN' from the hot babe, DARN IT!!!

Oops! Sorry James. Yep, it appears I left-clicked and and then hit the drop-down "quote" function in your post and where you quoted Fausterlitz's post. (...forgive me, kind sir)

Good point HERE, James. BUT (and you HAD to know THIS was comin' here) I can proudly claim to be "devout", and I don't care WHO knows it! (...no, no, not "devout" in any sense of religiosity, but really more the idea that I DEVOUTLY believe that Ben has a nasally voice...and which evidently I've always been the proverbial "cult of one" about this around here for YEARS now!!!) LOL

Yep, good point made here, TB. But STILL, you DO have to admit that Ben DOES have what could be called a "classic" nasally voice anyway, RIGHT?! LOL (...yeah yeah, I know...nobody here is gonna laugh at this one, and basically because I've run THIS little bit of observational humor RIGHT into the ground, huh) LOL...some more now

AND, maybe Louis Jourdan TOO, Mr. G???

Yes, the amorous little skunk was indeed a parody of Boyer, not Chevalier. However, I must admit here that for years in my younger days, I thought little Pepe was a parody of Louis Jourdan. (...eeh, but hey, you know what they say..."One Frenchman is just like the other", RIGHT?!) LOL

Have to say here slayton that this thought, the idea that Poitier's line somehow implied he thought himself in any way "superior" to his father or that Poitier was "giving up his heritage", has never crossed my mind. (...nope, I've always felt it implied Poitier felt or at least hoped he was entering a more color-blind world, or at least one that was or would be more color-blind than the one his father had been born into just a generation earlier)

I also like, and as Yancey here mentioned in his OP, that Ben's (and I would presume all the hosts') new intro/outro style now seems to feature cutaway shots to images and various clips of the actors/actresses he's talking about at the time, and so not as statically presented as before. (...a nice new touch, I say too)

Well then Brian ol' boy, once again, the ANSWER to this little issue of yours can be found RIGHT HERE, dude... Ya see, all ya gotta do is push that button on your remote control just as you start seein' one of those hosts introduce themselves to ya while they begin their little intro and VOILA, all your troubles will be over in a flash! JUST be sure to hit that button AGAIN when see that MGM Lion or that big Warner Brothers logo beginning to appear on your TV set. (...and 'cause ya see, I PERSONALLY only ever use that button on MY remote control during election years, and because I DON'T want MY intelligence insulted by those damn POLITICAL ADS they run all the damn time on other TV stations during those years...nope, ya see, I can LIVE with Ben's nasally voice and what he's sayin' MUCH better than I can THOSE damn things!!!)