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10 hours ago, King Rat said:
Exactly! Language inflation strikes again.
People who add the word "centric" to a noun or adjective or adverb are so much smarter than people who don't.
People with "skill sets" are so much more talented than those who merely have "skills."
"Maintenance workers" get so much less dirty than "janitors."
There are no homeless people, let alone "bums." They are "persons temporarily experiencing homelessness." Yes, bureaucrats actually say that these days. Though I haven't seen it in print yet, I'm expecting "ex-cons" to become "persons formerly experiencing incarceration."
True, but THEN here King Rat, there's the FLIP SIDE of this so-called "Language inflation" of which you speak.
Uh-huh, I'm talkin' about those out there who LACK a damn vocabulary past a junior high school level, and which is something, a strong vocabulary that is, that's an absolute necessity in order to express an opinion or thought to its fullest, clearest and most comprehensive. AND, which is something, the LACK of a vocubulary that is, that defined a certain individual who I will now NOT name.
(...BUT who I WILL now say Stephen Colbert, and considering his name was brought up earlier here, spent four-plus years mocking, AND to be honest here, I LOVED almost each and every damn time that he DID!)
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45 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Do you mean that by the time Joe runs into Betty and Artie in the drug-store, Betty has fallen in love with Joe? I guess that is the case; Betty does treat Artie kind of poorly when he makes some jokes about Joe and his fancy cloths and being a keep man.
As for why Joe gave Betty the brush off: That is a very sympathetic view of Joe. I can see it, but I don't fully buy it.
Can't believe you can't recognize that Joe is actually being noble, yes James, noble, when he has Betty come out to 10086 Sunset Blvd to see how he lives.
Everything about it, the way the script is written and the way Holden plays it, points to this.
(...and why the death of Joe especially hits hard, as by the thought that basically Joe was a decent guy at heart who didn't deserve his fate)
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One of the greatest films ever made about this subject would be...
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1 hour ago, yanceycravat said:
Now let's continue with the premise you have a big role out saying you want to bring TCM into 21st century. And during that first month of this big change you make Paul Robeson, one of the most controversial personalities of the 20th Century Star of the Month. A bold premise and totally appropriate for your new role out. Then instead of having the likes of Jacqueline Stewart or Donald Bogle or perhaps Stewart and Bogle discussing African-American Paul Robeson's career you have a Caucasian do it. Not that a Caucasian can't do it but you just said...
Gotta say here Yancey, it seems by this you're pretty much sayin' we have yet to reach a time in this country when, and to paraphrase a certain memorable speech once given by a great man of peace:
"I look forward to a day when TCM hosts aren't judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their wraparounds!"
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17 hours ago, Bogie56 said:
Click on the headline for some great shots of this home.
Al Capone's Miami Beach home - where gangster planned the St. Valentine's Day Massacre and died in 1947 - is to be demolished after new owners bought it for $10.75M
The South Florida home, where Capone lived for nearly 20 years, was purchased by a pair of developers this summer, however they don't plan on renovating it. One of the property's new owners, Todd Glaser, told the Herald that the nine-bedroom home sits at three feet below sea level, which has led to extensive flood damage to the property. 'We're going to get this knocked down,' he said of Capone's home, which currently has standing water underneath it. 'The house is a piece of crap,' Glaser added. 'It's a disgrace to Miami Beach.' Glaser purchased the home with his business partner, Nelson Gonzalez, who is a senior vice president of Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices.
And reportedly, when they got the deed to the place, the new owners were heard to exclaim..."Say hello to my little friend...the wrecking ball!"
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18 minutes ago, Hibi said:
Heaven forbid! They should be preserved for posterity!
Yes, EXACTLY!!!
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8 minutes ago, ElCid said:
Ultimately we will all learn to live with this. But, changing the sets and the logos and so forth will NOT attract younger viewers. These will be seen by people already coming to TCM. Nor will it keep them at TCM if they happen to visit.
I also fear, as some have mentioned elsewhere, that this forum is doomed. Whenever a TCM host mentions contact us or discuss this movie, they NEVER mention this site. You have to go to tcm.com, click on the menu icon and scroll down to TCM Message Boards (not forums or discussions). Forget how I found out about it.
WAIT! Are you tellin' me here Cid that ALL those thousands and thousands of witty posts of mine that I've contributed to these boards all these many years will ONE DAY be lost to posterity TOO???!!!
Say it ain't so, Joe...err, I mean CID!
(...yeah, actually, I know what you're sayin' here...I've been wonderin' when that day might come to pass too lately)
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Yeah, yeah, whatever.
Now, what I WANNA know here is who was that hot brunette babe sittin' with Hugo in the FOREGROUND in that pic up there, HUH?!!!
Heck, now SHE looks a lot like Linda Darnell and is almost as hot as SHE was.
(...forget Cleo here, guys)
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20 minutes ago, Thompson said:
It’s amazing how one bad scene can spoil the apple. Think Quentin Tarantino in his bath robe trying to convince us his wife is some sort of something in Pulp Fiction. As much as the adrenaline shot was classic, his performance was the opposite.
Yes, you're right here, Thompson. Tarantino has always been a much better director than he is an actor.
(...and have always felt this might stem from how he forms the words of his spoken dialogue out of that weird lookin' little mouth of his)
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1 hour ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
The spinoff LOU GRANT, although ran for a few seasons during its original run, is seldom shown in reruns nowadays.
I never saw it but I heard it was more of a dramatic show. Too bad it's not in syndication these days, I would like to check it out and see how else it differs from THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW.
17 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:I don't recall ever watching Lou Grant either. ME-TV is have a MTM best-of-Lou programming in honor of Asner; Maybe they will add the Entire Lou Grant show to their rotation. I hope they do.
In that case, here's the very first episode of the Lou Grant series. Enjoy.
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The demographic of the people I transport down to and back from the Phoenix airport from here in the Sedona area with this little part-time shuttle driving gig that I've had in my retirement years for about 8 years now does tend to skew to the Boomer generation. I bring this point up because whenever I steer the conversations held inside the van I'm driving to the subject of Movies, I've noticed that the vast majority of my passengers say they seldom watch TCM and/or have only a limited interest in or knowledge of movies, and be those movies defined as "classic" or not.
During these conversations (and of which I always attempt to initiate because it makes the two hour drive each way seem a hell of a lot shorter in duration for me...oh, and of course also because I love the sound of my own voice...I DO have a rich, mellifluous and resonant voice, ya know
) whenever I mention my favorite films of all time and after asking what films might be my passengers' favorites, more times than not these passengers might only vaguely recall once watching the movies I've mentioned and which could not in any way be described as "esoteric". Nope, we're talking about movies such as Academy Award winning films like The Best Years of Our Lives, The Apartment, and Casablanca. However and once again though, my passengers are most likely to only recognize the titles of these films at best but have little knowledge of their actual content.
(...and so I guess with my point here being that the general public, and yes, even those old enough to have perhaps acquired a taste for classic films and who are not adverse to watching a movie that wasn't filmed in color, is still pretty much a relatively small demographic)
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1 hour ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:
In our case, it would probably wind up as The Mirror Has Two Faces (and they both need lifting).
Must have watched this over 50 times in my life, and it still cracks me up every time I see it.
(...talk about a "classic"!)
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2 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:
The Voice of Experience.
Penalty is nine to ten at Leavenworth.
Did five to ten at Woolworth, myself.
Ya know, EPM. I was just thinkin' here that you and I could probably pull off a pretty good rendition of the mirror sequence in that flick if we worked at it
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13 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
My approach when I was single was to try to find a group of 3 women and focus on the second best looking one (if she appealed to me). While it was common for others to focus in on the best looking one, I tried to look at the situation from the perspective of the second best looking one: how often she was ignored because most of the attention was given to her slightly better looking friend. This approach worked and worked well. Often the gal would comment about the situation: "wow, someone paying me some attention for a change!". I would often get a phone number for a follow-up date, while the guys trying to hit on the best looking gal, got nowhere, time after time.
And here I was thinkin' what a GREAT plan the above would've been for me to use back in my single days too, but THAT was until I read your second paragraph here...
13 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:I assume I wasn't these gals top-choice in the looks department but from the gal's POV: wouldn't you rather dance and talk with a guy that is interested in you, instead of waiting, hoping the best looking guy that is chatting up your friend, will end up dropping that angle and paying attention to you?
And 'cause THEN I realized that this great plan up there wouldn't and couldn't have applied to me.
(...nope, you see, I WAS always the best lookin' guy in my group of friends!)
LOL
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4 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:
...FYI and a word to the wise: when a woman tells you that she's attracted to a man who has a sense of humor, that's not a cue for you to show her your "funny bone."
LOL
Ah-HA! So THAT'S where I made my mistake all those years, EH?!
(...geeez, NOW you tell me!)
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18 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:
How the heck was a mug like Spencer Tracy -- no Clark Gable or Cary Grant looks-wise, IMO -- getting so much action?
Because, and as I'm sure you really know here EPM, the criteria for attractiveness between the sexes has always been different. Men, generally being more visually oriented than women, place a woman's appearance higher on their list of initial desirability than they do character. Why do you think women wear makeup? It's of course to look more attractive. Women generally and on the otherhand place a man's appearance lower on this list, and prize a man's self-assuredness or even imagined self-assuredness higher.
Now MANY women will often claim that they find a man with a keen sense of humor very attractive.
But I'VE always thought THIS is just a big lie, and 'cause I can't TELL YA how many times over the years I've shown MY "keen sense of humor" to a woman who I'D like to "get to know better" (if ya know what I mean) and I've come away with NOTHIN' from the hot babe, DARN IT!!!
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40 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Hey, you misquoted me! Look above; It was Fausterlitz that made that comment about Chevalier (since I always believed Pepe was based one of the Marx brothers).
Oops! Sorry James. Yep, it appears I left-clicked and and then hit the drop-down "quote" function in your post and where you quoted Fausterlitz's post.
(...forgive me, kind sir)
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1 minute ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
Did anyone else notice that after Guess Who's Coming to Dinner Ben mentioned Tracy and how he was a devout Catholic. Ben mocked that, just like I have been doing for years at this forum. Devout Catholic,,,, can't get a divorce,,,, but sleeping with Hepburn,,,, well, can't one still be devout!).
Good point HERE, James.
BUT (and you HAD to know THIS was comin' here) I can proudly claim to be "devout", and I don't care WHO knows it!
(...no, no, not "devout" in any sense of religiosity, but really more the idea that I DEVOUTLY believe that Ben has a nasally voice...and which evidently I've always been the proverbial "cult of one" about this around here for YEARS now!!!)
LOL
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7 hours ago, TopBilled said:
You cannot cling to TCM circa 1995 for the rest of your days. What is happening is that people are trying to superimpose the word classic on to the hosts and the channel itself. The hosts and the channel (and its sets, politics and themes) facilitate classic film, they in and of themselves are not classic things.
My view.
Yep, good point made here, TB.
But STILL, you DO have to admit that Ben DOES have what could be called a "classic" nasally voice anyway, RIGHT?!
LOL
(...yeah yeah, I know...nobody here is gonna laugh at this one, and basically because I've run THIS little bit of observational humor RIGHT into the ground, huh)
LOL...some more now
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4 minutes ago, Mr. Gorman said:
(EDIT: I've always thought Pepe Le Pew was an exaggerated parody of Charles Boyer instead of Maurice Chevalier. Heck, Pepe is probably a combination of both Frenchmen).
AND, maybe Louis Jourdan TOO, Mr. G???
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14 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:
I realize that Pepé is partly an exaggerated parody of Maurice Chevalier,
2 hours ago, Hibi said:Thanks. Hadn't thought of that. Still think it's stupid. Sigh.
I thought Pepe was a take off on Charles Boyer? (Pepe Le Moko)
Yes, the amorous little skunk was indeed a parody of Boyer, not Chevalier.
However, I must admit here that for years in my younger days, I thought little Pepe was a parody of Louis Jourdan.
(...eeh, but hey, you know what they say..."One Frenchman is just like the other", RIGHT?!)
LOL
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56 minutes ago, slaytonf said:
What's really offensive about that scene comes at the end when John Prentice tells his father that he thinks of himself as a colored man, while he (John) thinks of himself as just a man. !!. As if there was something inherently inferior about being colored!! Man, I was expecting his father to slap that sonofabit c h upside the head! I know what would be going through my mind then. " Who the hell are you? Who the hell are you to say that to me, you g oddamn punk? " Like, to think of yourself with dignity as a man you have to give up your heritage. Like you have a monopoly on self respect!
Have to say here slayton that this thought, the idea that Poitier's line somehow implied he thought himself in any way "superior" to his father or that Poitier was "giving up his heritage", has never crossed my mind.
(...nope, I've always felt it implied Poitier felt or at least hoped he was entering a more color-blind world, or at least one that was or would be more color-blind than the one his father had been born into just a generation earlier)
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I also like, and as Yancey here mentioned in his OP, that Ben's (and I would presume all the hosts') new intro/outro style now seems to feature cutaway shots to images and various clips of the actors/actresses he's talking about at the time, and so not as statically presented as before.
(...a nice new touch, I say too)
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19 minutes ago, brianNH said:
To the TCM hosts: If I want a film studies course, I will enroll in a film studies course. But I have no interest whatsoever to do that.
I just want to watch some d*** movies! Leave me alone.
Well then Brian ol' boy, once again, the ANSWER to this little issue of yours can be found RIGHT HERE, dude...
Ya see, all ya gotta do is push that button on your remote control just as you start seein' one of those hosts introduce themselves to ya while they begin their little intro and VOILA, all your troubles will be over in a flash!
JUST be sure to hit that button AGAIN when see that MGM Lion or that big Warner Brothers logo beginning to appear on your TV set.
(...and 'cause ya see, I PERSONALLY only ever use that button on MY remote control during election years, and because I DON'T want MY intelligence insulted by those damn POLITICAL ADS they run all the damn time on other TV stations during those years...nope, ya see, I can LIVE with Ben's nasally voice and what he's sayin' MUCH better than I can THOSE damn things!!!)
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Noir Alley
in General Discussions
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OKAY then. And NOW where the hell were we in this "Noir" thread, anyway? Oh yeah...
No, Joe wasn't being "noble" there, James. What he was being was secretive to Betty about the circumstances of his life at the time.
However, and once again, when the chips were down and after the sparks had kindled between Joe and Betty, he did the honorable thing by being brutally honest with her about those circumstances, and all the while knowing that it meant he would lose her.
(...ya know, he COULD have just strung her along a lot longer, don't ya?!)