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Right with ya here, Doug. Now, bein' the agnostic that I am, I've always been of the mind that IF there IS an afterlife, one of the very first things I'd do once I've arrived to those Pearly Gates (or at that other place as the case may be and where it's supposedly a whole lot hotter) I'd ask the person in charge who really killed JFK. (...the whole MM thing I'd save for some later time, as this one has never really been that high on my list of things to know, and 'cause frankly I never cared much for that little breathless baby talk way she had of talkin' anyway)

Thanks. How about the Hugh O'Brian flick, midwesty?

Yes, I'm pretty sure TCM has shown both of those sometime in the past. Definitely the John Wayne flick which I believe they've shown fairly recently, and I think the Hugh O'Brian starring movie as well, and with the latter one here of course being the inspiration for the short-lived Chuck Connors starring TV series.

Yep, and very similar to the following Mattel "Shootin' Shell" Fanner .50 that I had back in the late-'50s/early-'60s here, and which predated yours by a few years... (...the Mattel Company, which was located in Hawthorne CA along Rosecrans Ave and very close to my boyhood home at the time of Lawndale, sure made the best toys back then, didn't they NS?!)

Saaaay, YOU'RE pretty quick on the draw here TOO, NS!

Yeah, maybe...and while James might be off in some other thread for awhile and lookin' at somebody else's semantics. (...but I'd say don't take any more than five minutes to do this...he's pretty quick on the draw with that computer of his, ya know)

Yeah, I get what you're sayin' here laffite, but in the case of this Lynch film, I wasn't so much "numbed" while watching it, but felt more "pulled into it" you might say. (...btw, I do have to admit that after my first viewing of it years ago, I was immediately compelled to do an internet search of what others thought the meaning of the film might be, and because like yourself, I too was a bit perplexed by it...but then after reading someone's idea that it would make a great double feature with Carnival of Souls, it suddenly all came together for me)

Eeh, sorry NS, but that James dude NEVER listens to a thing I say, ya know! (...wait, I take that back...he listens sometimes but THEN he's inclined to get into some big debate about the semantics that I've used, and so........) LOL

I dunno, James. I use some of my wife's Aveeno almost daily, and I sure don't look like I did when I was in my thirties anymore. Think it'd help if I started also usin' some of that Just For Men stuff on my hair and on my goatee, it might help??? (...Walt Frazier and Keith Hermandez always seemed to think so anyway, right?!)

Yes, but DO "two wrongs make a right", Vautrin??? (...and now of course, this is where YOU say, "No, but three rights do make a left")

Gotta say here NS, that while Jen has never done that much for me, I DO have to admit she's somehow held onto her looks by far the best of any of her old Friends costars, anyway. (...it's almost as if she's got some kind'a portrait of herself that she keeps up in her attic)

Now see, I'VE always believed she died as a result of Tony Curtis holding her down while Billy Wilder force fed her a whole bottle of her sleeping pills. And 'cause even after 4 years since she ticked 'em both off so damn badly by her unprofessional conduct on the set of Some Like It Hot they STILL were holding a grudge. Well?! Is THIS one any less plausible than any OTHER damn "theory" about this whole thing you're likely to hear? HUH???!!! (...and btw, of course I was only kidding about messrs Curtis and Wilder here)

The Downward Spiral of Jean Hagen's Life & Career - Facts Verse

Funny here Sepia, but when it comes to the brotherly resemblances of all those I jokingly referred to above, I have to say the Andrews/Forrest one has always seemed the most pronounced to me. (...and then with the Sanders/Conway one a very close second)

And which it seems, according to Shank Asu anyway(didn't see this myself), was the basic premise that Alicia expressed after a recent showing of The Crimson Kimono, but with the example in this case of the Japanese-American community of the Los Angeles area substituting for that of the African-American community of Detriot. (...gotta say here though that this conversation is now gettin' a bit heavy...can't we just go back to the subject of what a terrific voice I have???!!!) LOL

Like your post here Sepia, and in return I understand what you're saying, too. (...but it also sounds to me as if you were/are splitting as many semantic hairs as were your aforementioned black activists)

Shank Asu, while I agree absolutely, positively and UNEQUIVOCALLY agree with the thought you expressed in this first part of your above posting... ...AND which was a point that I actually brought up a few months back when our "woke" TCM hosts presented their opinions on the film Guess Who's Coming to Dinner and when THEY failed to mention ANYTHING at all about the out-and-out racist views which were expressed in THAT film by Sidney Poitier's father character. However, what I can NOT understand is the thought you THEN expressed within the SECOND half of your above posting here... ...as I have to THEN wonder, and as I do every time someone comes these boards (and who usually turn out to be as I call then "One Post Wonders") states their displeasure and disgust with something they've considered as "woke" which one of the TCM host have said about some film. And so MY question here is: Why would you allow ANYTHING that the cute Aussie lass with the nice smile and an overall pleasant appearance(but who once again, does tend to talk through her nose at bit) OR for that matter ANYTHING that ANY of the TCM hosts say while they're expressing an OPINION about the film you've just watched, AFFECT you to ANY degree at all, and ESPECIALLY to the degree to which and as you YOURSELF here have just stated in which it "took (you) completely out of the film once it was over"??? You see, I don't and never have allowed ANYTHING that ANY of the TCM hosts have ever said after THEY have given us THEIR opinion about a film affect ME in the damn LEAST, well, at least NOT to the degree to which it would affect ME and take ME "completely out of film once it was over", anyway. (...see my point here?...so what is it?...are you worried that whatever the TCM hosts say and when they offer up their OPINIONS about a certain film's content or "message", that this might go on to heavily influence too many people with as yet unformed opinions of their own out while they're listening to them, and say such as the younger viewers out there?...well, at least this has always been MY guess as to why I occasionally read posts submitted to these boards with these sorts of laments, anyway)

Yep and as I recall, so did Patty Duke and John Astin, Brett Somers and Jack Klugman, George Hamilton and the future Alana (Rod) Stewart, and well...a number of other married (at the time) celebs on that program. (...although I did always have the feeling that the cute as hell Elaine Joyce would've been married forever to Bobby Van if he hadn't died so damn young)

Yep, and I seem to remember when this happened, it wasn't exactly amicable.

Well laffite, like I said earlier: "It helps if you think of Mulholland Drive as Lynch's take on Carnival of Souls." And I'll now add that this film "mesmerized"* (I guess might be the best word for it here) me. (...and not just 'cause of the hot as hell Laura Hassing bein' in it either) *mesmerized-past tense of mesmerize..def: hold the attention of (someone) to the exclusion of all else or so as to transfix them.

LOL Well, it certainly didn't "scare away" one Ernest T. Bass anyway, RIGHT?! (...nope, it actually attracted that guy, and HE would often ACT like a wild animal)

LOL I gotta admit he ESPECIALLY didn't like it when I did that impression of him to his face, anyway!!! (...naaah, not really...but I COULD have...ya see, my Kirk Douglas, Henry Fonda and Clark Gable impressions I do sometimes in that aforementioned van are ALWAYS a big hit, ya know...and primarily because the demographics of those passengers tend to skew to the, well lets just say, those in their "golden years" and so they're old enough to remember these guys)

Okay then, here's what might be another example of why this sort'a thing might be "primal" in its origins. Say you run into a wild animal somewhere that seems threatening. In order to attempt to scare the thing away, do you think it is more likely to BE scared away by the sound of a loud, deep and resonant voice than it is by a voice that is merely loud? (...funny, isn't it folks, how a thread that supposed to be about a TCM host has somehow segued into a discussion about what kind of voice is most likely to scare away a wild animal???...hmmm, maybe THIS is why I like spendin' so much damn time on these boards...ya never know WHERE this stuff is gonna lead to!) LOL

And btw, and in regard to this issue of "voice", AND while the following is sure to sounds as if I am once again "blowing my own horn" here... I had THREE different passengers in my van who I was transporting between Sedona and Phoenix yesterday, once again tell me that I had a very nice voice and sound as if I should be a "radio announcer". (...just sayin')

I was just kiddin' here of course, James. Yep, I pretty much figured your participation in those sessions was mandatory for all the employees at your place of business, and as were the ones that became mandatory for all to take when I worked at Northwest Airlines and at the time the issue of "sexual harassment" came forefront during a certain Supreme Court Justice's confirmation hearings. No, not necessarily, and because if you go back and re-read what I wrote, you will find I made no mention of "gender" in it. And because, and as you yourself mentioned in your previous posting of that female sports announcer who possessed a deep and resonant voice. And so in effect, you yourself admitting that females are capable of possessing such a voice too. (...and also btw, why do you think you hear so many younger females doing that whole "vocal fry" thing with their voices and which entails an attempt at lowering their voices in order to sound as if what they're saying has more "gravitas" to it?!...are all these, and yes primarily it seems young women, being "sexist"???