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Posts posted by Sgt_Markoff

  1. All your remarks above are true TB but I might add that as the pace of the industry has sped up in recent years, all of these elements have as well. Yes indeed there are 'elevator pitches' (but only the length of one floor) and --I forget what its called-- maybe 'hallway pitches' or 'doorway pitches' where, a producer passing down the hall merely pokes his head into a room where one of his Readers is in the middle of a script and he will ask 'what's it about' before blithely continuing on his way. That's mighty brief.

    Loglines are pretty standardized these days, ideally 1 sentence in length (1 sentence with maybe three clauses) and need to state conflict, goal, and stakes. They can be three short sentences long if necessary, (yea basically the same as one sentence with three clauses).

    Anyway as I described above pitches, are now very very fast (unless given at a 'pitchfest' where you are allotted more time). But ideally producers want them to refer to movies they already know and they just want to hear the new way you've mashed them up. "Die Hard plus Jaws". They don't really want to hear any new ideas; unless it is so instantaneously hi-concept that there's no question it would make a hit movie. Most of the time they want you to say "its Die-Hard plus Jaws" but if what you have is so obviously good, they will give an ear: "strippers fight to keep giant space robots from destroying the earth". 

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  2. I rarely think that much about them; since every movie has one.

    Of course, long before it becomes a 'tagline' or a 'blurb', (written by marketing minions, intended for consumers) its a 'logline' and a 'pitch' (intended for agents and execs). That's somewhat of interest because it can foretell whether a movie or a book rights are bought and whether the property gets produced in the first place.


  3. I can only assume he is some contemporary media darling. Palsy-du-jour. Only hope he accidentally bumps into me someday, so that I can turn a completely and sincerely blank stare at him when he expects me to recognize him. I really would love that, The schlep probably has an undergraduate degree in 'communications'. Gag.

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  4. re: "Fire Sale" and "Where's Poppa"...you are in for a treat.

    Carl Reiner's 'Fire Sale' is charming in that everything about it is humble and low-budget, domestic, a 'neighborhood' comedy; with characters we all know. The archetypical 'lazy brother in law', the furniture store owner, the local little league manager, etc.

    Meanwhile "Where's Poppa?" is nigh well the epitome of the black comedy. Ron Liebman and George Segal at their madcap best. Essential New York City humor. I must urge you to try to see whatever version has the original, 'berserk ending' which I have heard has been taken out and replaced with something milder and more palatable. Some ladies' sewing circle must have complained and forced them to replace it with something cowardly, (I don't know what they used instead). But for a man of your mettle, I insist you seek out the genuine article. The original ending is the perfect one, and is just mind-boggling. One of the most insane final scenes for any movie ever.

    I can't describe the scene to you because it would blow the laugh, but I just looked up the title on Wikipedia and the relevant point is this:

    In a post-credits scene removed from the movie but still seen in cable prints

    This is the version you want.

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  5. From probably two or three dozen good candidates for top honors, I really have to stick with Stanley Kramer's "It's a Mad. Mad, Mad, Mad, World". That film simply creates an alternate universe all its own. The surreality of California at that timeperiod and the things these people did. Crazy cars and bouffon hairdos and martinis and beatniks; the backdrop for an epic comedy plot where Americans are pushed by greed to the brink of sanity. Flying an airplane through a billboard, running each other off the road ...just astounding.

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  6. Aye and not just those two worthies. Fella named Hans-Georg Gadamer has a firm opinion on it as well. He says (and I agree) that social science should never become a hard science. This view of course, runs contrary to the massive push to make social science more scientific over the decades. But it would suffer by doing so; there is no deprecation in these fields remaining outside of the laboratory. Really, its the last thing anyone should want.

  7. I'm sure it has its fans; and I am not a professional film reviewer nor professional film critic. Also, I can't go back in time to 'how things were before this movie appeared', to appreciate better 'how inventive it was'.

    All I can say is how it struck me --yours truly --when I saw it, and I can only offer up my rationale for why it failed with me.

    I certainly agree that there may be many sundry different ways to score and choreograph a musical. As innovative as this one is said to be, it is the only musical I can name which gave me such a violent revulsion. See, I've sat though many musical I disliked; but this one makes me squirm with disgust.

  8. I know about Al and his wife and how they doted on their daughter Nina, 'the wonder baby'. I cant always spot the tribute though. In this one, is it in Cary's necktie?

    What you say about 'economy of line' in graphic art is spot-on. Zen calligraphy masters from the Far East certainly know this truth.

    And I can cite you another one. Kathe Kollwitz.


    She may be my very favorite charcoal sketch artist of all time. Right up there with Goya, or Dore'. The kind of self-taught artist who only needed one stroke or gesture of her wrist to capture the line she wanted.

    Also, a woman with an extraordinary  life story as well. She was one of the few citizens in Hitler' Third Reich who dared to openly speak out against abuses of justice. Here are a couple samples; I encourage you to search out more on the net.



  9. Yet another reason why a 'picture' is worth much less than 'a thousand words'. What is a lie worth? Nothing!

    Down with images and away with propaganda. Hail the written word. Words come from voices, voices come from identities and identities come with souls. Images are crypts for meaning. Dialogue is strangled, interned, and embalmed by the tyranny of imagery.

  10. I agree that 'Iceman Cometh' has some awkwardness in the original play; the writing is certainly "of its time" particularly in the way that character-backstories were reiterated not once, not twice, but three or four times over. Very, very noticeable. Its as if there was some need to hammer the characters into the audience thrice over, for each figure Oneill concocted. Whew!

    But believe me I got a lot of enjoyment out of both versions I cited above. Owned both of 'em for quite a while. Moving stuff. Tour de force from Marvin and Robards both. Also I really relished seeing some fine supporting stars "trotted over a lengthy bit of ground", as it were. Wanted to see how they stand up in a real 'gut-buster'. Lots to learn, lots to observe. Which version is better? I think the one with Lee Marvin. Who did better as the unfortunate young lad? As appealing / sympathetic as Bridges was (he just looks more fragile), I pick Redford.

  11. Interesting. Hain't seen that before.  Ty. So I reiterate that the admins should just do a keyword search on the term 'RIP' and 'in topic header' and then select all' (on whatever comes up) and then move every RIP thread ...therein ...and thereunto and forthwith...its a groaner to stumble over them in 'General Discussions' the way things stand now

  12. Ernest Borgnine, Cliff Robertson...just around the 'net in general; lack of attention. I wasn't on this site back then. But I'm still irked 'bout it

    ...and I still say all RIP threads should be placed in a 'section' of honor where respects can be paid and recollections shared.

    Death notices ought not be bandied about in the common byways where folks discuss 'great undershirt scenes in movies'....its so crass!


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