MontyC
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Paulette Goddard was in MODERN TIMES with Charlie Chaplin
Charlie Chaplin was in THE GREAT DICTATOR with Jack Oakie
Jack Oakie was in CALL OF THE WILD with Clark Gable
Clark Gable was in TEST PILOT with Myrna Loy
Myrna Loy was in FROM THE TERRACE with Paul Newman
Next: Chill Wills
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Yeah, I know those three letters have become a cliche. But seriously, I really did. That's funny, slayton!!
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> {quote:title=MissScarlett123 wrote:}{quote}What is your fave movie? Yeah, there are tons but you're on gunpoint so you better make a decision and explain why! *spits tabacco out with flourish*
Just got a horrible image of Vivien Leigh with a chaw a tobacco between her cheek & gum (shudder)
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Hal Wallis? Arthur Freed? Irving Thalberg? Darryl F. Zanuck? Louis B. Mayer? Samuel Goldwyn? Walter Mirisch? You telling me these people weren't movie lovers? You mentioned Jack Warner but I think I've just given . . .uh . . .evidence to show he is perhaps an exception to the rule. These people made movies because they loved being in the movie business. Most executives at studios who are greenlighting movies these days have never even heard of the people I've mentioned above. And most of them wouldn't know the difference between a klieg light & an over-the-shoulder medium shot. They didn't go to film school, they all have business degrees from Harvard. Same thing happened in the music industry (which is also why it sucks now)--they're both small branches of larger corporations run by (I'll say it again) beancounters.
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> > {quote:title=MontyC wrote:}{quote}Yep. That's what I heard anyway. It was about the time of I SPY when he had a different public persona than he has now.
> Yeah, maybe so. But, the Harry Callahan character is pretty much supposed to be somewhat of a "Right Winger's Hero", ya know. And so, even though a younger Cosby who MIGHT have at the time still been thought of as the "cool secret agent" type, MAYBE...well, I gotta say I STILL don't see this at all, and maybe 'cause I can't envision him as a "Right Winger"!
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Dargo, maybe because Cosby didn't agree with the politics is why he turned it down, I don't know. Newman turned it down because he thought it was too violent. And I agree that it's hard to see Cosby as Harry Calahan. Hell, it's hard to see ANYBODY as Harry Calahan except Clint Eastwood. But I'm sure you'll agree that's what happens when the right actor finds the right part.
As for Clarence Thomas, now THAT would've been interesting casting. "Being this is a (add euphamism of your choice) & could blow your head clean off . . ." Okay, I'll stop there. You all get the joke.
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And there's also the story of how back in the 30's Cooper pulled up to a stoplight on Sunset Blvd. next to Clark who was in his brand new Dusenberg. Cooper liked Gable's so much that he went & bought one himself--only he had it custom built so that it was exactly one foot longer than Clark's.
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Yep. That's what I heard anyway. It was about the time of I SPY when he had a different public persona than he has now.
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You're right, Dargo. I think what Ford had in mind was a remake of STAGECOACH: Jack Lemmon in the Donald Meek part, Fonda in the John Wayne part, Cagney as the corrupt banker, William Powell as the drunken doctor. They couldn't find a team of horses strong enough to pull the ship across the desert which is what Fonda objected to. Would've been a very different movie, to say the least.
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Paul Newman, Bill Cosby, & Frank Sinatra all turned down DIRTY HARRY.
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> > {quote:title=MontyC wrote:}{quote}I have from a pretty good source that Marlon Brando use to frequent these boards about ten years ago. Seriously. Sounds like a tall tale but he was really into computers & social networking the last years of his life.
> Gee, I wonder if any TCM.com member back then went by the name of "Stella"?
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> (...and if so, I wonder if Marlon paid any extra attention to her posts???)
A friend's father used to be one of Brando's tax accountants. According to him, the last 15 years of his life Brando spent his days & nights doing one of two things: communicating on the intenet or talking on the phone.
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> {quote:title=aged-in-wood wrote: }{quote}Why the heck can't they do anything like this today.
Because the movie industry is now run by an army of bean counters, not movie lovers as was the case during the golden age of Hollywood.
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What I heard was that Fonda decked Ford, not the other way around. And when he did, Ford walked off the picture forcing Mervyn LeRoy to finish as director. Fonda apologized years later but Ford never really forgave him. And the differences had to do with Ford wanting to make the script more cinematic wheras Fonda wanted it to be closer to the staged play. Kinda too bad cause it would have been interesting to see what Ford would've done with it.
And I'm not saying Fonda isn't good in the part, just not as good as he is in his other movies (owing, like I said, to having played the part so many times).
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Gregory Peck: 7
Claude Rains: 7
Montgomery Clift: 10
Spencer Tracy: 9
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You forgot to leave a "next", Sunny.
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I have from a pretty good source that Marlon Brando use to frequent these boards about ten years ago. Seriously. Sounds like a tall tale but he was really into computers & social networking the last years of his life.
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I'm sure there will be a lot of disagreements but the one bad performance I always thought Henry Fonda gave (& let me qualify by saying bad for him--most actors only wish they could be as "bad") was in Mr. Roberts. I thought he was somewhat wooden in that. But it's completely understandable. Since he performed the role hundreds if not thousands of times on the stage, it's easy to understand how he could lose a sense of spontaneity necessary when performing in front of the movie camera.
I think a lot of modern actors (tv & movies) phone it in nowadays. They have a sense of naturalism & understatement that is conducive to movie acting but I don't think they delve very far into subtext (in other words: phoning it in). Actors I would say this about are Brad Pitt, David Duchovny, Luke Wilson. There are others.
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Corporations are monsters that have to be fed.
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Marjorie Main was in BAD BASCOMB with Margaret O'Brien
Margaret O'Brien was in JANE EYRE with Orson Welles
Orson Welles was in LONG HOT SUMMER with Paul Newman
Next: The Beatles
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My favorite Bette Davis movie? CASABLANCA. Why? Cause she's not in it!!!!
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Sometimes I crack myself up!!
Nah, I kid. I like a lot of her movies. Favorite being probably ALL ABOUT EVE.
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> {quote:title=bagladymimi wrote:}{quote}I am sorry if I offend anyone but I think Marilyn Monroe was a terrible actress. "The Misfits" was the only role that I saw her in where I think she actually acted. But even beyond that, she made this movie miserable for the other actors. As usual she was painfully late for every shoot and made the actors wait in the heat for her to show up. She couldn't remember her lines and scenes had to be shot over and over. This was not that unusual for her. She did this on just about every movie she worked on with the exception with "All About Eve". She really didn't do too badly on that, but then she only had a brief supporting part. I know that she was very unhappy, but that didn't excuse her lack of concern for the people she worked with. In my opinion she was a primary reason why Clark Gable died shortly after making "The Misfits".
You didn't offend me, baglady, I just disagree with you. The arguments you give for her being a bad actress (& I don't dispute what you've written as it's pretty well documented to be true) prove that she was narcisistic, inconsiderate, mentally unstable, & difficult to work with. But how does it prove she was a bad actress? I personally think she was underrated as an actress. Her image as a sex symbol upstaged her abilities as an actress. She's an actress who trained at the Actors' Studio & was a better actress than given credit for on the whole. As far as helping to cause Gable's death, I won't dispute that either. What really killed him was a lifetime of hard living.
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Just to be clear here:
So, slaytonf, you think the movie BABYFACE is the high point of western art?
Hmmm . . . I'll give you a 10 for originality anyway.
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Cary Grant: 5
Montgomery Clift: 6
Lee Marvin: 3
Clark Gable: 9

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