Sepiatone
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13 hours ago, Vautrin said:
Sybil? I don't like her. I really don't like her.
Just her? Or all of her......
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I do my own thinking, thank you. And don't adopt the thought processes of any ideology. And don't think the world revolves around me, but some think so because I have my own mind and not dumb enough to succumb to "herd mentality" like seen in many "social media" outlets. Even here.
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WHAT! Not enough "coolies" to work on that railroad?
I've always dismissed the complaint of African-Americans that white people think that they're all alike. At the same time, I've never heard any black "activist" make a distinction between Irish, German, French, Scottish, Polish, Russian or anybody else who was white. We're all white, and so too, all alike. But as you know...
Many white people don't seem to like other white people if they're some other "nationality". Hell, some families would reject their daughter's choice in husbands if he lived in the wrong city, let alone be another national origin or "race".
We're ALL messed up!
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12 minutes ago, Dargo said:
Well said here Tex, and agree with everything you just said here.
(...saaaay, I'll bet YOU are probably a centrist TOO, aren't you?!)
LOL
While on the subject(sorta) of labels, I'm trying to think of one for me. "Centrist" and "Moderate" don't seem to suitably fit, as I usually more or less slalom twixt the two sides instead of following any kind of "fixed" path. But they'll do OK for now.
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Ah, but see?
I didn't get the images initially. Just a half rainbow "thumbnail" image followed by a jpeg URL. I see since then you've either made an adjustment, or it somehow self-corrected. However, following your directions still gets me nowhere with it. I can't click on anything that doesn't have my cursor change from an arrow to a finger pointing icon. And it doesn't happen there.
Don't worry. The problem is on my end. And like I stated, I need to get my daughter( a computer tech) to come straighten out this damn boat anchor.
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50 minutes ago, LuckyDan said:
Or air an alternative viewpoint once in a while, if such can be found. I'm actually cool with the blacklist (hey, consider it 50s Cancel Culture, if it helps), but I know most aren't. Ben is preaching to the choir.
"Cool" with the blacklist? THAT bears explanation. How can anyone be "cool" with something that needlessly ruined hundreds to thousands of lives and livelihoods?
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"Mildstone" Heh! Like that. However...
Probably an issue with my PC, but I get nowhere with the links in your post. I gotta get my daughter to work on this damn thing.
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"COLD war thriller". I'll pardon the pun!
Yeah, good cast. Too bad it went to waste.
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13 hours ago, Dargo said:
"Wow. Unless I missed it somehow, nobody's even mentioned the movie we're in here, Chief!"
(..."btw, care for a stick o' gum?")
You missed my first post in this thread DARG.
It was the SECOND one on my list.
14 hours ago, EricJ said:Kentucky Fried Movie is the classic, the others, not by....ANYONE'S reckoning. 😱
I'd say THE GROOVE TUBE makes the cut due to it's being one of the first of those '70's sketch/anthology comedies and the early exposure of both Chevy Chase and Richard Belzer.
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1 hour ago, TikiSoo said:
I like your take on the "perfect parent" aspect of the Cosby's. Many these days like to use the term "reverse racism" to describe those scenarios. There is no "reverse" racism, just racism. I've always found the concept funny since humans don't come in different breeds like dogs.
Couldn't convince SOME people I know of that.
Now, somebody somewhere in here(maybe this thread, I'm not sure) mentioned the concept of the Irish being "lower than slaves", with a reply from someone, "Nobody was lower than a slave".
Now, that could be taken two ways, neither of them a good way. But there was a time when the Irish immigrants were looked down on as the lowest form of life by many. And still others gave that position to Italians, Germans, Poles, Jews or any other ethnic group you can name. You've heard of it before---
If they or their ancestors didn't step off of the Mayflower, they were scum.
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I agree it can get stale to those of us that's heard Ben drone on and on about it many times over the years, but what about those viewers who are not only new to classic film but to TCM as well? And maybe young enough to have NEVER heard of the blacklist? I don't doubt there are some who haven't and Ben might be thinking of them?
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Well, today(March 16) TCM passed an opportunity to keep it's all day WWI era movie line-up by showing(yet again) NATIONAL VELVET at 8:00pm when they could have(if rights weren't perhaps an issue?) shown the 1985 drama 1918. A movie that takes on the issues of the Spanish influenza epidemic and the pending U.S. involvement in WWI and how it affects some people's lives in a Texas town. Stars William Converse-Roberts, Hallie Foote and Matthew Broderick.
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On 3/15/2021 at 7:48 AM, skipd55 said:
When it comes to the blacklist, Ben preaches.
Well, since others here are dispensing pearls of platitudes, I'll join in and say that Ben wants to make sure nobody forgets about it because---
When people forget history, they run the risk of repeating it.
Or something like that....
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This is sad. I always liked Yaphet. For his acting of course, but also---
He resembled a foreman I worked for at Cadillac that I liked as well.
And often got ribbed about the resemblance.
Rest In Peace. Sir.
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17 hours ago, TomJH said:
Actually the film has no more reality to it today than it did in 1967. The Sidney Poitier character is so unrealistically perfect (honourable, wealthy, a great career, handsome, well bred) that the film stacks any decision about rejecting him so that to do so it has to be strictly based upon his race. In the real world the Poitier character would have had a few human flaws like the rest of us to make the decision involving an interracial marriage more complicated. The screenwriters decided to keep it as simple as possible (reject him strictly because of his race or not).
Now you might counter that by saying, "Well, race is what the film is about" but that doesn't absolve the film from its unreality.
To continue a sidetrack from the topic, but not as far as the last few posts, I'll mention too, the unreality of the TV show that was SO popular in the '80's
THE COSBY SHOW.
Now, usually at the time, there would be an African-American psychologist who worked for the show's producers who'd go around on talk shows(like OPRAH in particular) to address this "unrealistic" charge by saying it was mostly a racist reaction. "White people have a problem dealing with the possibility of a black family being headed by a successful doctor and living in an affluent, upscale neighborhood." was one of his "arguments" But actually, MY angle of it being unrealistic goes to what you were saying about Poitier's character in "Dinner". On the Cosby show, my issue was that the parents were usually shown as never being wrong or making mistakes with their kids. And as a parent myself, I knew we could OFTEN be wrong and make mistakes. Seemed to me it was the psychologist who was making it about "race". As for "Dinner"----
It was a given that Tracy would be OK with the two getting married. The movie merely served as a soapbox for people who basically had no problem with "interracial" marriages(the quotes being a nod to the oft(by me) quoted Al Capp) and would be not entirely about a black man and white girl wanting to get married, but how a man who was known for his strident liberal attitudes(Tracy's character) would react when faced with the advent of his daughter taking his attitudes to heart and being the girl in this case. And although I remember the movie as being heralded as being "great" movie making and "bold" in it's tackling such a controversial topic for the times, not too much was made of the idea of a black man wanting to marry a white woman and vice-versa. Except of course, by pinch-nosed right wing bigots who saw it as "Filthy Liberal trash aimed at dragging our country and society down to utter ruin!"
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14 hours ago, Dargo said:
And, one of the things I'll always associate Phil Carey with was a series of TV commercials that ran out west here during the mid-'60s for a regional brand of potato chips named Granny Goose...
(..in fact, to this very day, I'll still sometimes ask someone, "What's in the bag, Goose?"...they of course will have NO idea what I'm talkin' about)
I remember him too doing a cigarette commercial way back.
Forgot the brand.
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Might've been more comical had she said, "colored". given her character's supposed heritage.
Anyway, about this "White man taking charge" thing...
Who made this complaint and when? I've never heard anything but praise for this movie when it came out, and since from both black and white reviewers. So, why NOW, after 50+ years is it some major issue with some people? Did they run out of valid BANDWAGONS to ride? Isn't the ending with the white guy being OK with his daughter marrying the black man GOOD enough? That the only thing bothering him was the fact of the problems BOTH of them would have to face? That and his realization that their love for each other might be strong enough to withstand those problems? Considering which possible directions this movie could have taken and didn't should be praised.
Seems to me it just proves my earlier point that looking hard enough, some people will see what they WISH to.
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Sho' 'nuff.
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Really, not until TCM put a few movies he was in on, I only knew Carey from his tenure on LAREDO and later as Asa Buchanan on ONE LIFE TO LIVE.
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I inquired how you came to a particular conclusion. That you sidestep it by making an issue out of HOW I asked only leads me to assume you HAVE no logical explanation. And you also sidestep the inquiry about the other "problematic" movies I suggested. And to inform...
It was I who posted the "F" word that made you all a-flutter by using only the capital "F" and the rest in asterisks. It wasn't done by the auto-censor.
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Some of the popular(if not the "best" by some's reckoning) Not mentioned are the sketch/anthology comedies like---
THE GROOVE TUBE('74) --With CHEVY CHASE'S second film appearance, but the first credited.
THE KENTUCKY FRIED MOVIE('77)
CAN I DO IT 'TILL I NEED GLASSES? (also '77)
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My "thanks" response to your post CHAYA, is on the merit comment. I don't either think an academy award should be granted simply because some actor or actress is of some particular ethnic group or gender.
And I would imagine that any transgender person would prefer to be nominated as the gender to which they transitioned. Otherwise, what would have been the sense of the transition?
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But, I'M not the one who suggested (or inferred) that Dargo was bringing up "issues" of "gender representation" by mentioning a poignant line from the movie "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner" . All I asked was how you managed to come to that peculiar conclusion. And also if other "problematic" movies included those displaying negative stereotypes of other ethnicities instead of just African-Americans, using the Italian example due to YOUR admitted discomfort with Italian-American stereotypes in THE GODFATHER. And why did it bother you in the case of "The Godfather" and not ANY OTHER movie displaying stereotypes of Italian-Americans?
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1 hour ago, TopBilled said:
I didn't comment because I felt it's a complex issue that requires a lot of extra analysis. In addition to race, you are now getting into issues of gender representation.
How the F*** do you reckon THAT? Let's take a quick look....
That line simply(and in the difficult to understand, 'round here anyway, simple English) indicates that Poitier's character states that his Father(obviously a man) still thinks of himself as "colored" while Poitier's character just thinks of himself as a man, color notwithstanding. How in the world is that complex? Remember, the movie was made in 1967 and NOT the 21st century, where "gender representation" is ridiculously becoming an "issue". And here's something else.
Is one of the "problematic"
movies IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE, with it's( which harks back to your issue with ethnic stereotyping in "The Godfather") representation of Mr. Martini's family, in the scene where he's moving from the shack in "Potter's Field" to his new home in Bailey Park, and the large brood of noisy, unruly children and the pet goat, and Potter's later reference to "garlic eaters" ? And then later, in the segment where George was never born, displays that if that were to happen, than his wife Mary would otherwise have never married and become an "old maid", making it sound as if not ever having a man in her life made a woman's existence tragic. Talk about stereotyping.
Just sayin'
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"COLD war thriller". I'll pardon the pun! 
Post-code classics: Best films of the 1970s
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As it's said; "To each.....".
But I thought it was those SEX TO SEXTY mags that were popular!
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