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I always thought of the TIMOTHY DALTON Bond movies as Bond parodies. Sepiatone

Thanks for the heads up. I imagine many of those "talking heads" owe their careers to Brooks. Maybe a few who Brooks owes HIS career to. Sepiatone

Also incidentally, the book "HOBBS" is based on is pretty good reading. There's a lot of changes in the movie, but the Hobbs character was pulled off masterfully by Stewart. Sepiatone

All of that shows us, Duck, that Stewart really WAS that good. Believable and likeable in comedy, drama, whether a western or Hitchcock flick. Stewart was probably the most widely respected and talented of the bunch who survived after the end of the "studio era". And anyone who disagrees can take their gripes to their OTHER friends in Al Qaida! Incidentally, the "bird watcher" was JOHN McGUIVER, one of my favorite character actors. Sepiatone

Wow! Everything said is true. Even back THEN, the main attractions of these chum buckets were the GIRLS. That's the reason me and my other hormone charged buddies went to see them. Over the years though, I travelled between wondering if they were intended to cash in on the making fun of the genre, or if they were trying to cash in on Coburn being kind of cool, and Martin's TV show being a big hit. Probably a bit of BOTH. But if you thought THOSE two were bad, you should have stayed up late enough to catch *Dr. Goldfoot and The Bikini Machine* , a thoroughly BRAINLESS effort, starring VINCENT PRICE and FABIAN, of all people. With appearances by DWANE HICKMAN and FRANKIE AVALON. I saw this hunk of crud with a friend of mine when it was on the ticket with another movie we went to see. IT makes the Helm/Flint movies look OSCAR WORTHY in comparison! Sepiatone

I only heard of the ONE LP, Dark. Apparently, Crawford must have done better in Canada, as I don't recall him being that "big" here in the States, or at least the Metro Detroit area, which is where I would have heard anything of his on the radio. As I said, the songs on the LP I have aren't all that well written. Even taken in context of the times. That's too bad. As I also said, he did have( and probably still DOES) a decent singing voice, and deserved better material. Sepiatone

For one, I wish that people would quit bringing up BOX OFFICE in discussions of a movie's quality, as we all well know that big box office reciepts isn't any indication of how good any movie really is. Having said that, I'd have to further say that as westerns go, I do like this movie, but it isn't in the top ten of my favorite westerns. In historical retrospect, although Jesse James was basically a good looking guy, Tyrone Power, pre-war, was too "pretty" to be Jesse. In any western, Power would seem best suited as the "dandy card-sharp" who just got into town off the stage. Of course, that part would go to a character actor, unless the card-sharp was the lead role, and Power, at the time, was TOO big a draw for the suits to allow him such a small presence. Gene Tiereny's part in the sequel is inconsequential due to the fact that any of that crap probably didn't really happen. To me, it was JACKIE COOPER who was terribly miscast in that one! All in all, I'd say that "JAMES" was two small steps SHY of "meh" for me. Sepiatone

On the other hand, even though they WERE somewhat attractive, you'd figure the two older daughters of JIMMY STEWART and MAUREEN O'HARA in *Mr. Hobbs Takes a Vacation* would be better looking. One would think ROB and LAURA PETRI'S son would be cuter, and NOT such a dork! KIM NOVAK and SUSAN STRASBERG in *Picnic* look like half-sisters at best. But, if LIZ TAYLOR could be SPENCER TRACY'S daughter, anything is possible! Sepiatone

I only know of Modesty through the daily comic strip my newspaper used to carry. I've never seen any of the movies. Spy spoofs can be a lot of fun. Especially if they're NOT INTENDED to be spoofs! So far, my favorite remains *What's Up, Tiger Lily* . Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on May 20, 2013 10:44 AM

Nice summation, Fly. On the FILM history of this subject. I only take exception to the referrence, "beyond Shelly". Even the original movie was so far removed from Shelly's story that only the NAMES of some of the characters stay intact. Otherwise, one really has nothing to do with the other. Sepiatone

Robby has been around long enough to become one of the "aged" actors and might well start wearing an ascot to hide his mechanical "wattle". Did the *Lost In Space* robot have a name? Was it related to Robby? Was the latter one made in the U.S.A., or Japan? Inquiring minds want to know... Sepiatone

My wife considered breast feeding, but wasn't sure how much they'd eat! (rimshot!) Sepiatone

"Mail Call" was just on Thursday night(or Friday morning) I think it was. My wife took to watching this with me. Sadly, NOT for Morrow, but she has the "hots" for "Caje"( Pierre Jalbert). Sepiatone

Twink, I have one BODACIOUS pancake recipe! Sepiatone

Sans, I can't do the "quote box" thing, but LOL!!! Sepiatone

To answer my own question(and then some), Judy Carne, besides "Fair Exchange" was also in "The Baileys of Balboa" with Paul Ford and John Dehner, then "Love On A Rooftop" with Pete Duel. Goldie Hawn was in "Good Morning, World". Johnny Crawford did try an outing as a "pop" star that fizzled, back when "The Rifleman" series was big. I found his one and only LP at a thrift shop. It's dwelling somewhere in my basement as I type! The songs were not so well written, but he DOES have a decent singing voice. Sepiatone

So, I'm guessing *The King of Marvin Gardens* doesn't count? How about the garden that Vito dies in during *The Godfather* ? Do "hot house" gardens count? Like in *The Big Sleep* , or *In The Heat Of The Night* ? Sepiatone

I'm sorry, I agree with all of you about it being a classic masterpiece and all, but I still can't help but dredge up all the FUN we used to make of it whenever it popped up on the tube in my old "stoner" days. Like how the "bride" and Joan Crawford had the same hairdresser. AND make-up man. How, even with the make-up job, Boris as the monster STILL looked better than Elsa's real life hubby, and was more "useful" to boot! The absuridty that Shelly created THIS story as well. The wonder of who suggested Elsa use those bird-like head movements when first "coming to life". That the monster's grunting and lurching towards her was a TRUE "boys will be boys" moment. I could go on, but it's obvious that I can't recall them all for some reason... Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on May 19, 2013 11:48 AM

Can any of you recall the TV shows Hawn and Carne were in BEFORE "Laugh-In"? Sepiatone

Your comment, baglady, recalls an earlier thread in which we tried defining "sexy". I think it was concluded that "sexy" doesn't always mean "attractive", although it might help. For example, I think GREER GARSON is "prettier" than ALEXIS SMITH. But Alexis, to me, is "sexier". I mention this because I've known women who thought that even though Gable was handsome, they found other men MORE handsome than him, but NOT as "sexy". To put it more frankly, I'd like to have dinner with Greer, but breakfast in bed with Alexis. It's an interesting distinction. Sepiatone

That's who you THINK it is? You mean YOU'RE not sure, EITHER? Sepiatone

I agree. The set designs, for the times, were remarkable. The designer gladly didn't allow the limits of current technology "limit" his imagination and vision, as too many in the past have. My step brother, who I once mentioned was a sort of "geek" as a kid, once denounced something we saw in an old sci-fi flick as "impossible". His Dad, my step father, asked him, "How do you think they'd react if you went back to the civil war and told all the generals that in 50 years there'd be a war where explosives were dropped out of flying machines?" THAT shut him up! Sepiatone

Reese "too sweet" to be Honey West? Wasn't that sort of Ann Francis' rep, too? And look how well it turned out. That outwardly "sweet" persona is what makes it work. I agree with your choice. Sepiatone

OK: 1. I DID stay up, regrettably, for *The Secret Six* after catching the last half hour of PELHAM. Since the between movie promo for it didn't mention Harlow or Gable, I was surprised to see them in it. And seeing Bellamy in an earlier movie where he WASN'T the "Golly Gee" befuddled new boyfriend was refreshing. 2. *After The Fox* was only a so-so movie in which Mature was the highlight, due mostly to his willingness to portray an over-the-hill matinee idol desperately trying to cling to his old glory days. The scene where he and Eckland finish shooting the scene of them running through the streets, and you see that rivulet of hair dye running down his forehead cracks me up everytime. Mature always played down his film career and had no qualms about self parody. My favorite quote from him is when he was asked by a traffic cop if he was an actor: "No, I'm NOT an actor, and I have 30 pictures under my belt that PROVES it!" 3. If Clint Eastwood can survive being hanged, shot AND beaten, I suppose Mature could survive only being shot. Oh, and the "regrettably" part of "SIX" was the fact I didn't turn in until 6:00am, and made all the yardwork I had to do WED. more difficult than needed. I DID enjoy the movie. Sepiatone

Let's not try to pretend the intent of this thread is deeper than it would appear. The question was, "You just won a ROMANTIC evening with a classic movie star. Who do you pick?" In an old David Brenner routine, a girl complains to him, "You just want me for my BODY!" to which he replies, "That's not true! I want to feel your BRAIN!" Fact is, you're not convincing me that you all feel a "romantic" evening comprises of having long, deep philosophical discussions. Or that if you really DO, then it's worrying me. Who WOULDN'T want to sit before a nice fire in the fireplace, sipping fine wine and discussing, with Bette Davis, her approach to character developement? ME! THAT'S who! Since it's supposed to be a "romantic" evening, and men and women have seperate ideas about what "romantic" means, I would imagine it would mean that I, with either narrowed down choice of PAULETTE GODDARD or VIRGINIA MAYO, would rather spend that time in front of the fire and sipping wine in trying to convince either of giving my new bear skin rug a test drive! The rest of you can protest your intentions all you want. I'll just sit here and be honest. Sepiatone