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I didn't even bother to watch it because Ingrid Bergman was in it. Never been a fan. Oh, she happens to be in other movies I LIKE, so I'll tolerate her, but I won't go out of my way. Besides, I've never heard anything GOOD about the film from people I trust, so I opted out. Your previous opinions simply verified the wisdom of my decision. Sepiatone

There's a scene in an old KIRK DOUGLAS movie *Detective Story* where Douglas recalls seeing a doctor hold a man's brain in his hands. He says, "I wish I could take out MY brain and wash away all the dirty pictures...." Now I feel the same way after getting that visual of GUTMAN and WILMER mentioned earlier! EEEwWwww..... Sepiatone

I didn't see it last night, but I've seen it before. The print I saw was OK, as memory serves. I DID see *Our Very Own* before that, and was still catching my breath after jumping out of my chair pumping my fist and yelling "YEAH!" after Dad SLAPPED that snotty little BE-YOTCH for acting like a brat. Shoulda slapped down the younger sister, too. Sepiatone

I like the fact that he seemed to match( and some might say "surpass") his Father's legacy without being as ego centric as Daryll. I was never fully aware of all the movies he was involved in, and most of them on my list of favorites! Sepiatone

Had Addy made that VCR comment to ME, I'd have simply laughed. I get ragged on ALL the time by friends and family who insist I should invest in DVR service through my cable provider. Like THEY do. These are the SAME family and friends who gripe all the time about how high their cable bill is. I'll keep my still-working-cheaper-than-a-DVR-VCR, thank you. Sepiatone

I hardly noticed him because I kept waiting for Jamie Farr to show up in a DRESS! Sepiatone

Didn't see it there or then, so I couldn't say. I'm willing to BET, however, that it wasn't "letterboxed" and chopped up so much with commercials that it would be impossible for ANYone to tell which version it was. Sepiatone

The BLOB? So, you like ME already? Sepiatone

You're right about THAT, Helen. I'd personally settle for 50%! I used to be the same way as Transfor about musicals. For years the only ones I could stomach were *West Side Story* and *Damned Yankees* . Over the years, more and more of them have grown on me, although I still don't like many of some of the "well loved" musicals. I suppose it's the music or story in those that have no appeal. Matter of personal taste, I presume. Sepiatone

I've never seen *Out Of The Past* , and sorry i missed it. I couldn't really get into *Against All Odds* though, so I hope the one who thought it was the better movie was wrong. So far, the only thing I see OOTP has going for it is that it would obviously not have a connection to that terrible PHIL COLLINS song. Sepiatone

I'm still at odds about why, in this thread, some would wish to malign Harryhausen and his legacy. True, in today's world of CGI and obviously more realistic and compelling special effects, Ray's work looks antiquated and quaint. Even laughable. But in comparison to effects used in his hey-day, his were exceptionally superior. His "claymation-stop action" method had been copied and used by many over the years, until something better came along. And something better DID come along, most likely from people inspired to enter that world via Harryhausen. Talk to almost any of today's effects masters, and I'll bet they'll tribute Harryhausen as the one who got them interested in their line of work in the first place. Seems to me that if Harryhausen chose to be an insurance salesman or plumber instead, movies wouldn't look the same today. And for that, I'd like to thank him. Rest in peace, Master. Sepiatone

Relax, it'll happen, Hibi. Anyway...remember that "Durbin vs Garland" thread? About who was the better movie vocalist or something like that? Well, just saw *That's Entertainment* last night, and it showed a clip of the two of them together. They seemed to get along fine. In fact, I'll bet off screen in real life they had an amiable relationship. So all that "rivalry" was OURS, not THEIRS. Sepiatone

That boat's gone. But the real tragedy is the PEOPLE who died when it sank. Sepiatone

Believe it or not, the other night was the FIRST TIME I ever saw this movie. I sat through it mostly out of curiosity, as I don't gravitate towards Streisand movies, but also because my WIFE likes it and wanted to see it. Turned out I didn't think it was all that bad. But as is my want, if I don't know anything or enough about someone, I look it up. I didn't know SQUAT about FANNY BRICE, only that I've seen her in a couple of old movies. Turns out the movie was 90% fabrication about Brice's life. Her family name WASN'T Brice, as it was painted on the saloon window, she HAD been married before, and met Arenstien sometime AFTER that marriage had disolved, Nicky DIDN'T turn himself in, and spent several years fighting the conviction. They had TWO children, not just the one, and the movie's producer, RAY STARK was Brice's son-in-law, which likely explains the whitewash job on Nicky. Yeah, I know y'all probably already beat this dead horse into hash, but I just thought I'd put in my two cents, since I've never seen any of the previous discussions. I now return you all to your current message board, already in progress... Sepiatone

Cool! New MEAT! All kidding aside Renee, welcome to the board. My only request is that you occaisionally post something STUPID to kinda take the heat off ME, OK? Sepiatone

To me, he looks like an older HENRY DARROW. From "The High Chapparell" and "The Flying Nun" Sepiatone

I think I can answer that somewhat. I used to "hate" a certain actor, whose name I can't remember because he closely resembled someone in my personal life whom I didn't like, either. THAT could be one reason. I also didn't like EARL HOLLIMAN for a long time because my first exposures to him was when he was playing very unlikeable characters in some movies and TV shows. Of course, over the years I've seen much of his earlier work and changed my mind. This sort of thing could be ANOTHER reason. My daughter used to be the same way about MATT DILLON. the first movie of HIS she saw was his character in *My Bodyguard* , a total creepoid. By that time, I was over my Holliman hatred and told her not to judge too harshly. She too, has changed her opinion since. Hope this helps... Sepiatone

I was going to start a thread about this then I saw THIS one. I was wondering about it too. No problems getting on any other sites or forums. It's taking 30 seconds to move from page to page. When I post this, it will take another 30 seconds. What's going on? Can the Administrator answer this, or is HE still waiting to get on? Sepiatone

No one will ever really determine the WHYS as to liking one screen( or TV or musical)personality over another, the reasons obviously as manifold as the people who have them. So I'm not even going to address the issue. What many people were surprised about(even Barbara Walters) was that in a televised interview with Walters, Bing let it be known that he felt there was nothing too wrong with smoking pot, but he would disown his daughter if she lived with a man while unmarried. Many people would have chosen the latter over the former, and MOST people, at the time, would have objected to BOTH. The pot thing didn't surprise my ex, who said she thought he always seemed "buzzed" while singing anyway. Come to think of it, he DID always seem to be REAL laid back! HMMmmm... Nonetheless, Whether his style of singing appeals to you or not, you can't deny his singing voice WAS very good. As one who can't carry a tune further than I can throw a SPACE SHUTTLE, I won't sit here and knock his success. Sepiatone

I don't know how I'D cast this if I were to do a remake, but if I followed real close to Caldwell's novel, it would HAVE to hae a hard "R" rating. Ryan, to me, was the PERFECT Ty-Ty. Lancaster would have been WAY too over the top. The only replacement I can think of in the original would have been ALDO RAY. Just could never see any woman having the hots for him at ANY age. For now, you'll have to settle for never knowing if there's any gold buried on the land. Or if Ty-Ty eventually does come to his senses and plows and plants his land instead of digging it up. The old movie version was a pretty good interpretation despite the constrictions of the movie codes in those days. There were several changes from the book, but not too many to render it unrecognizable from it, unlike the interpretation of another Caldwell novel, *Tobacco Road* , done several years earlier and under even stricter moral codes than ACRE. I've always liked this movie, and I'm glad you seem to like it TOO, Fly. Sepiatone

I just repeated what I heard, and some people I know who tried them told me 5 guys were big burgers. BAR BURGERS are generally better than most anywhere, but with one problem...SALT. They salt them patties mighty heavily. Of course. You gotta wash that salt down with something, and since you're already at the BAR... Already having hypertension, I shouldn't eat ANY burgers at all. especially bar burgers. And I don't see how any SANE person can put the words PIZZA and DOMINO'S in the same sentence. People have a wide variety as far as pizza preferrences go, but all should agree that the INDEPEDENTS have it all over any of the CHAIN pizza makers. Sepiatone

Bing Crosby gave Louis Armstrong a break? I didn't know Satch NEEDED one! I don't mind Bing, and I'm still out on the judgement of his "beating" his kids. In his case, I think it's more resentment on Gary's part in not being able to ride Daddy's coattails into a high ranking career. But I digress... I prefer, on a very slim margin, *Philadelphia Story* over *High Society* , although I couldn't exactly say why. Maybe it's because I preferred Jimmy Stewart over Bing, Frank or even Cary. But all told, I never liked PS as much as most of you who DO seem to. I can tolerate either, but I wouldn't drop everything to sit down and watch them. Sepiatone

I dunno, to me, if I have to read a backstory or have some work of "art" explained to me, then it misses it's point. Most vue art as a visual impact medium. It's appeal should be immediate. It's "message", if indeed one is intended, should also be immediate. But that's just me. As one earlier mentioned their surprise at how "small" Dali's "Persistence of Memory" is, I was equally surprised to find how HUGE one of MY favorite paintings, Serraut's "A Sunday On The Island Of Grande Jatte" really is. This painting, especially after finding out how it was executed, always fascinated me. Sepiatone

I could never remember his name, Twinks. Thank you. Any "boomer" who grew up in front of the tube should at least recognize that face! Sepiatone

That's BORSCHT, Blue, and I grew up scarfing down GALLONS of that delicious soup! Try it with those "drop dumplings" like my Grandma used to make, and you're in HEAVEN! But back to the "original" highjacked thread... In Greektown, in the heart of Detroit, there opened a place called "5 Guys Hamburgers". I've yet to try them, but those I know who have DARE me to finish one of 'em! BIG suckers, so they tell me. Two of the better "franchise" burgers I've had over my lifetime were: 1. *HARDEE'S* ; Like a Whopper, but without the sloppiness. Yeah, I know there are those who will argue that the "sloppy factor" is the Whopper's biggest charm. Makes no matter...the last HARDEE'S closed up around here years ago. 2. *BORDEN BURGERS* ; Yep, the dairy company. even had Elsie's picture on the front of the building. Opened up in 1970 around here, was gone by the next year. But I thought they were GREAT! Must have been the only one. Right now, some of the better burgers I get are at places not really known for their hamburgers. Like RAM'S HORN, a "family" restaraunt chain in my area, better known for their breakfasts( our family meets there at least once a month for breakfast) and "Fish and Mac" Friday dinners. Their mushroom and swiss burger is fantastic. Another is "LITTLE DADDY'S", a primarily Greek cuisine place started up by Darren McCarty, formerly of the Detroit Red Wings, and Bob Probert, also a former Wing and Blackhawk. They no longer are involved with it, but their burgers are really good. In fact, I noticed that many Greek restaraunts and Coney Islands serve really good "non Greek" fare. Sepiatone