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While Robinson's signing to the AMERICAN major league was followed by a mere 11 weeks after by Doby, doby was indeed the first black player in the American league( Robinson was in the National league). And even though doby's career was longer, Robinson's final tally stats are a bit better. And to quote someone on the subject, "Giving attention to the SECOND negro to sign with the majors is like giving attention to the SECOND man who invented the telephone". At any rate, Doby never resented the attention Robinson got, even though the crap they went through was at the same level. Sepiatone

Regardless, Fred, I don't think women in Mexico dressed the same in 1925 as they might have in 1885! But there's an interesting aspect mentioned. I too, have come across situations of where there's SUPPOSED to be some actor in some movie, but I fail to see it. I also see people who resemble OTHER actors or actresses but wind up not being them, or not even related. For example, there's some guy that appears in one of the THIN MAN movies that looks so much like BRUCE DERN, you might wonder if he was Dern's father. THEN you research and discover that Dern's dad wasn't even in the business! Sepiatone

Well, don't look at ME. I'd be too busy asking RO how he likes having the Tigers stomp all over the "beloved" Yankees, or why New Yorkers can't simply suggest getting some pizza, rather than saying "let's go GET A SLICE". Or why too many New York pizzarias have a dislike for putting CHEESE on them? ( Or maybe it was only the place I got pizza from when in NYC. They put on three measly rectangular slices of mozzarella on the whole thing, and IF you were lucky, you might wind up with the piece with SOME cheese on it! And razor thin, the crust was) Sepiatone

You're right, Dargo. I apologize. I realized it after it was posted, but didn't feel like going back to edit. But I have to admire your TASTE! Sepiatone

Because it's in this FORUM, Hibi. If you want to look at the "big picture", NONE of whatever gets discussed here is really all that "important". It's merely stuff that's interesting to this particular group of people. Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on Apr 15, 2013 12:28 PM

Herrmann USED to sound repetative to me, since many of his scores after *The Day The Earth Stood Still* sounded like small reworkings of that score. I was more impressed by his score of *Citizen Kane* than any others. Sepiatone

Just from the photo provided, Sheridan looks to be in costume from a far different time period than when the movie takes place. She might have been hanging around the set a the time, or came by to discuss something with Huston. By the time TREASURE was made, she was certainly too big a name to do an insignificant walk-on. But then, who knows. I really wouldn't have noticed, given the make-up job she had in the photo. After all, it was only recently I discovered the little Mexican boy that sold Dobbs the lottery ticket was Robert Blake! Sepiatone

I didn't know the show was on for that long, either! By '65, I thought the show was long gone since I only recalled it as a fond memory. That was about the time *Lost In Space* started up, and I remember thinking that ANGELA CARTWRITE, whom I used to have a crush on, must have been glad to finally get back on TV after having been off of it for so long. Sepiatone

I don't know just how much "spark" Lynn would have added to Wilkes, since the character hadn't much spark to begin with. But he would have been a more believable southern gentleman than the British Howard. I'm in the group whose thoughts are that Howard, a marvelous actor nonetheless, was terribly miscast in this movie, too. Sepiatone

If it were MY shower, I probably wouldn't complain! ] Sepiatone

My money's on the "Gorton Fisherman"! Sepiatone

I'll take out the "Twilight" franchise if you destroy all the PAULY SHORE movies! Sepiatone

Been meaning to see it. At first, I thought you were asking if we have ACTUALLY seen Hitchcock, and thought his apparition had been spotted around. THEN I thought it might be a thread about spotting him in various movies, in which he always manages to show up, whether in actuality, or merely a newspaper photo or the like. I have a book about Hitch which in the back has a list of just when, in each movie, he can be spotted and how. I too, liked Vera Miles, and it's dissapointing her career didn't get going better than it did. There's a scene in the movie *The Morning After* where Jane Fonda explains to Jeff Bridges that when a young actress, she was groomed to be "the next Vera Miles". Jeff innocently asks, "Who?" and Fonda's character laughs derisively and says, "That's right! I was to replace an actress that nobody knew was GONE!" Sepiatone

Damn, wouldbe, I just WATCHED that episode last night! Sad to hear of his passing. He's responsible for my pronouncing it "Gar-BAHGE" to this very day! And I sorely miss Maude Fricker! Yes, ahead of his time, and in a class all his own. Sepiatone

Fred, you were 13 years old in 1955? That makes you younger than even YOU make yourself sound! And younger than my WIFE. But the passing of Annette Funicello is a sad topic likely due to what she might have meant to people her age and even younger. A large part of our childhood memories is now gone, reminding us of how much closer WE are getting to the last lap of our mortality. But at least we here ARE remembering Ms. Funicello for something other than her misfortunate illness. Whether it's her big chest, big hair, big eyes or big smile makes no difference. That we're remembering her FONDLY is the point. Annette always seemed to be the kind of person anybody would like to KNOW, regardless if that knowledge be biblical or otherwise. Sepiatone

The closest TCM came to YOUR idea, Dargo, was when a couple of years ago they had TCM staffers be "guest programmers" on some nights. And they made some good choices. Sepiatone

That's a good choice. It does seem the "modest" movie is falling by the wayside. Or if not, they find very limited distribution. *That Thing You Do* was a movie like that. Oh, it had good distribution, probably due to being directed by TOM HANKS, but it wasn't in the "blockbuster" category, and simply told a good story and was well done. You can also find a list of largely unheard of films on your "free movie" channels of your cable provider that, if watched, might also qualify as "modest" movies. Sepiatone

Putting my mind to it, I could think of several others. But for now, I would add *Harold and Maude* to that list. Sepiatone

DANG, Hibi! you beat me and finance to the punch! I suppose this means you prefer eating "sherbert", too? Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on Apr 12, 2013 1:13 PM

Jeffrey Lynn? Yeah! LOVED the stuff he did with the ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA! Sepiatone

My favorite response about religion in a movie was the bit STANLEY ADAMS gave in *Lilies Of The Field* about helping to build the chapel being his "insurance". This is also an opportunity to sound off about the selfishness some people display in times like this. To wit, how many people here, whenever we DO get around to mentioning Annette, recall all the GOOD stuff about her? Nobody went on and on about the terrible illness she suffered. Isn't that the way it usually goes no matter WHO it is? Whether it's a passing "star", or some uncle of ours? I have little, if any, use for those who refuse to attend the funeral of some "loved one" with the oh-so-lame excuse of, "I want to remember the way he/she WAS." Well, that half-azzed malarkey would work if it was all about THEM. But it's NOT. And in spite of my caring for my dying Mother for half a year before she died, and seeing her on a daily basis looking the worst she could EVER look, any memory I have of her IS of the way she was! It's not a word I like to use often, or lightly, but I HATE those kind of bastards! Sepiatone

Dothery, I sent you a PM about a matter that was brought up earlier. I thought it best rather than discuss it here. Sepiatone

A lot has happened in this thread since yesterday! OK, first; Although I knew they're not related, and I never confused the two, I always thought ANN JACKSON and GLENDA looked enough alike to be sisters. Diefying presidents? Some just can't help it. I know right-wingers who still diefy Dubya, and hard core right wingers who were absolutely disgusted with him. Hard to figure sometimes. Never having followed British politics much( our OWN political theater having more effect on my life), I had no idea that Thatcher was as disliked as she apparently seemed to be. As far as our economy goes, I'm afraid my grades in Economy class in school will betray my knowledge( or lack thereof) about how it all works. MY belief was, that the higher the DOW AVERAGE was, the BETTER the economy is doing. And as the Dow was sinking down to below 8,000 when Bush left office, and it's now around, what did Dargo say...15,000, it seems to be doing a bit better. But in MY situation ( retiree ), it makes no matter. My pension saw an increase of a whopping THREE DOLLARS a month in the last year and a half! But I STILL feel Glenda's speech would have been better suited BEFORE Ms. Thatcher died, rather than immediately AFTER. Sepiatone

The ONLY Ryan role I didn't think was good was his portrayal of JOHN THE BAPTIST in *King Of Kings* . In that, he seemed to have just shown up and recited. Everything ELSE he did was done very well. No one else could have done a better "Ty-Ty". Sepiatone

Just got done watching the link to Jackson's Parliment speech. Surely, not the time for such vitriol, but a the "chair" pointed out, not unparlimentary. Kinda reminds me of the opposite when Reagan died. Although not the WORST president this country endured, he was far from the BEST. But the conservative element in this country reacted as if the man had accomplished feats so great just stopping short of curing cancer, that it was pathetic to watch. Fortunately, however, those of opposing opinions had the class to just let them have their fun, and NOT publicly, through media or in the chambers, denigrate the man. But I just gotta admire the way things are done in British Parliment. Much more lively than our stuffy, pretentious procedure in the congressional chamber. Just tune into CSPAN, if you can stay awake that long, to see what I mean. Sepiatone