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Dabb, I think it's time to start a "Part 2" of this thread. It's getting to be too many pages. Sepiatone

Intersting question, Fred. I'm currently re-reading *Toby Tyler* , and never took notice if there are contractions in it or not. I'll have to get back to you on that. I have noticed in some movies, even those that take place in the 20th century, that contractions aren't used when those characters in the movie are assumed to be speaking to each other in a foreign tongue, but is spoken in an English translation for the American audience. It's been years since I've seen it, but I think this is done in *For Whom The Bell Tolls* . I know Hemingway did so in the book. I'll get into TYLER and let you know later. But incidentally, I myself have a friend who speaks in that manner. He uses no contractions, doesn't "shorten" names( if your name is JOE, he'll likely call you "Joseph") or any well worn slang. I do not know why that is. Sepiatone

I hate to correct you Addison. But you wrote,"The film seems to have it's FAN for whatever inscrutable reason". WRONG! I know at least ONE OTHER person who seems to like it. So that should be the PLURAL "FANS"! Sepiatone

"Earth Girls Are Easy" Any of those "Bring It On" teeny-bop cheerlearer movies( and new ones just keep popping up!) might qualify, but you asked for "favorites", and I don't LIKE any of those. Sepiatone

Next time they could cop from *Little Big Man* and call it *It's A Good Day To Die Hard* . But personally, *Curl Up And Die Hard* strikes my fancy. Sepiatone

Back in "the day", we never celebrated "President's Day", instead acknowledging Washington's and Lincoln's birthdays seperately. I don't know WHEN the amalgamation of the two came about or why. What I DO recall, is one year when I was a kid, my Mom snorting at an ad in the paper for a local department store announcing a "Lincoln's Birthday WHITE SALE"! She saw something humorous in it that I didn't get until years later. Sepiatone

Schallert always seems to show up somewhere, doesn't he? And ALWAYS looking the same age, no matter WHAT year the movie was made! Sepiatone

WOW! Thanks. Somehow, I always thought his hair color was between the dark in your pic, and BILLY BUDD! Sepiatone

Funny you mentioned Laurel and Hardy, mrroberts. I remember in the early days of colorization, Stan Laurel's grand daughter complained to the folks who colorized one of their features that they got his HAIR COLOR all wrong. I don't recall which color it was supposed to be, or if the distributors called it back to make the correction or not. Sepiatone

About *Ben Hur* , anybody here ever make it through the BOOK? I tried, and got close to half way. I'll soon give it another go. Sepiatone

I KNOW I'm probably wrong, but this guy resembles TERRENCE STAMP with dark hair. Sepiatone

Thanks for the Travers info, James. I stand corrected. Yeah, he DID have that mid-western thing down, didn't he? To the point I thought that WAS his point of origin. By far, a much better actor than many give him credit for. I also never cared a whole lot for Pidgeon. But he was alright in "Miniver". Made the husband a very likeable person. But all in all, after all is said, my favorite person in the movie was little TOBY. Don't know WHO the little actor was, but he was totally loveable! Sepiatone

I thought Crawford was more attractive in those days than in subsequent years. You know, before the football shoulder pads and unibrow. The '40's styles didn't do her much justice. What was dissapointing is THAT was the look she stuck with for the remainder of her years. In "HOTEL", she displayed a sassy acting style that suited her nicely. When I first saw this movie many years ago, I started having new respect for Crawford's body of work. Come to think of it, according to someone else's comments here, Garbo DID seem to put up a "silent" type style of acting in this movie. Further perusal made me think that if there were a few flashes of "normalcy" in her demeanor when no one was looking, it would have proved to the viewer that such behavior WAS a put on and therefore more acceptable in the scope of her character's personality. If that was the original intent, then it was poorly executed. Lionel's Kringeline(sic) WAS a loveable old coot, wasn't he? Who couldn't HELP but take a liking to him? Just by showing up, Lionel always grabbed the attention of the audience no matter WHAT the role. As skillful a thespian John was, stealing a scene from brother Lionel had to be harder than stealing GOLD from FORT KNOX. No matter what movie I've seen Lionel in, whenever he's on camera, I never notice anything or anybody ELSE in the scene. Sepiatone

I apologize. I'm really fond of this movie( GRAND HOTEL), but I needed a way to get your attention. The thing I'm most thankful for in *Grand Hotel* are the scenes in which GRETA GARBO appears, otherwise I'd have no excuse to go to the bathroom. I'm sorry. But I just can't understand the adoration of this hack. I could never make up my mind if Garbo's work in this film was OVERACTING, or just POOR acting. That head-thown-back, eyes-to-the-sky hand-wringing was just TOO sophmoric even for the novice film buff. That "CAMMILE" act of hers got stale after a few seconds. When CAROL LOMBARD copied it as her character in *My Man Godfrey* , her sister in the movie called it "Drama 101", and poorly done at that. Garbo does it, and dewy-eyed simps clutch hands to hearts, blubbering about how GREAT she was! Christ, even WALLACE BEERY was more lovable in this movie than SHE was! I was also left wondering if my need to go to the bathroom was BECAUSE of watching Garbo's performance, or NOT. Sepiatone

Actually, last night(or this morning)was the first time I've seen this gem all the way through. Over the years, I caught bits and pieces of it here and there. I can see now why so many give it high praise everytime it comes up for discussion. The only problem I had with it was HENRY TRAVERS as a Brit. For all I KNOW about Travers(which isn't much), he actually COULD have been of British descent. But as I'm familiar with him, it seemed odd to me. Thanks to all on these forums for giving this movie such accolades that I decided once and for all to see it all the way through. You've all led me to a good place. Sepiatone

That would be my guess, too. Even the biggest dummy nephew working at TCM would know showing Part 2 first is a dumb idea. Sepiatone

I liked *All That Jazz* for the fact it proves selfishness need NOT have redemption, that hating yourself doesn't mean you can't love others, and that suicide doesn't HAVE to be immediate. There can be seen some sense of tragedy in Schieder's character having a warped sense of integrity and willing to die in defense of his vision. While a few might actually mourn at his passing, HE didn't seem to mind. Sepiatone

Love is a many splenored thing. Sepiatone

That's another aspect of this movie I like. They were poor( or close enough to it), but were decent, upstanding people. Dad worked nights, DIDN'T work "at the office", wear a suit to his job, or as lower in the income brackets, didn't drink a lot. Hollywood DID have a habit of pidgeonholing classes in that manner. AndyM is right. I too, would like to see more of Stewart's work. He was flexible enough to be either a good cop, OR creep. Sepiatone

That would work if these "lists" were made up by only one person. But the lists of "100 Greatest Movies" or "50 Greatest Songs" and such are the results of narrow polling. I've seen many of these kinds of lists over the years, and the first thing I think is, "Nobody asked ME!". And therefore, the lists do NOT tell us anything about ANYbody. But I will admit that they DO provide information as to what's out there. On the list might be the titles to several movies I've not even HEARD of, and it might induce me to put an effort into seeing it. That it might be on some "Greatest" list might further induce me to see WHY it's thought of in that light. But for the most part, the list of "100 Greatest Movies" likely contains information that can be found elsewhere. And without any preconcieved notions. Sepiatone

For me, it depends on two factors: 1. What's the MOTIVE? Do they think the STORY is better in color? Or that simply more people might WATCH it if it's in color? It would seem to me that if color is required to coax or hold someone's interest, then they really don't CARE for the STORY. They just want their eyes to be dazzled. 2. IF they found some other proccess to colorize that doesn't call for bleaching out the negative, then I might be interested in the results. The old proccess left the colorized versions look too "homogenized" and lifeless. And the old colorized version of *It's A Wonderful Life* had Jimmy wearing that horrid GREEN SUIT when begging Potter for help. THAT would have to be changed for me. But when it's all boiled down, for me, if colorization never was invented, it wouldn't matter. Old B&W movies never bothered me. Sepiatone

How do you see MILDRED fitting in for Valentine's Day? Actually, I found myself watching two movies on my STARZ/ENCORE free movies selections: *It Could Happen To You* ; The Nicholas Cage/Brigette Fonda movie in which a cop who wins the lottery splits the winnings with waitress Fonda. They eventually fall in love. *Finding Nemo* ; Yeah, NOT Valentine's Day stuff, and I also have it on disc, but it was already on, so I stayed there. Sepiatone

*The Crying Game* ? Really? I'd like to see HALLMARK'S card for THAT! And Duck's desire for schmaltz leaves out *The Saint Valentine's Day Massacre* . Some of those silly, romantic fluff pieces made in the late '50's-early '60's might be good. *A Summer Place* , *Gidget* , or any Day/Hudson, Day/Garner or Sandra Dee mind candy movie would help fill the bill. Maybe even those Annette/Frankie flicks. Actually, as I just posted on another thread, I wound up seeing a more RECENT movie, NOT what some here would consider a "classic" in the sense of it's age, a movie that spewed all kinds of schmaltzy romance type stuff... *It Could Happen To You.* Nicholas Cage is a cop who offhandedly offers to split the winnings if his lottery ticket wins with waitress Brigette Fonda, to make up for not having extra money for a tip. His ticket winds up winning, and he keeps his word to the chagrin of his wife. Eventually, after the ensuing circumstances and other factors, they wind up falling in love. Duck would be pleased with this one. Sepiatone Edited by: Sepiatone on Feb 15, 2013 5:56 PM

I would imagine that Redgrave would be. unless he, like Everett, was also gay. Sepiatone

Re: *Five Came Back* My feeling is the angle of the story in NOT showing any rescue team efforts gives the movie the level of urgency the survivors felt. In an actual situation like this, nobody really KNOWS what efforts, if any, are being made in their rescue. So they need to act accordingly. This gives the audience the sensation of being there WITH them, instead of merely being observers. This leaves the audience feeling as if whatever solutions are agreed to are in the best interest and sound in it's reasoning. Showing scenes of rescue efforts unknown to the survivors would have cheaply sensationalized the story, and would have left the audience frustrated and dissapointed. Sepiatone