Sepiatone
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McConaughey is one of the saddest parts of this movie. This film was made back in the days when young Matt flexed his serious acting chops, before his descent into the *The Wedding Planner/Failure To Launch* realm of film roles.
And who could miss the profundity of Hopkins, as John Quincey Adams stating "...If it leads to civil war, then let it come. Hopefully, it will be the last battle of the American revolution."
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Yeah, EXCEPT for the inclusion of the classic, "Unchanged Melody" on the list there!
It stands to reason, Dargo, that if the melody "changed", it would be a different song. The same might happen if you were to "unchain" it, and it goes in another direction.
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Edited by: Sepiatone on Dec 31, 2012 3:38 PM
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Happy New Year to all on the boards, and don't forget to put your change out( for any Eastern Europeans here).
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I usually try, and I think I've been successful at it, to keep my insults limited to a specific actor or actress. Now, THAT might offend someone here who is a big fan. But some regretfully take it personal. It is not. For example, one of my oldest and closest friends is a huge fan of a rock group I really can't stand. Whenever I say anything derogatory about this group, he simply smiles and says, "Hey, it's YOUR ears!" and leaves it at that. He knows I'm not insulting HIM.
On the other end of the spectrum, I also have an old "friend" of over 40 years who refuses to have anything more to do with me because I once said something unflattering about George W. Bush! It had NOTHING to do with HIM, but he's obdurate in his ostricism.
I will only resort to insult of another forum member as retort to MY being insulted by said forum member. It's equally immature, I know, but I'll try to limit it to one response. If I fail at this, I rely on others here to promptly point it out. And I'll apologize now for any instances in the past where I've clearly done this.
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I remember Meeker in the films you all mentioned, and a couple I forget the titles of. However, I don't recall him in anything after he made *The St. Valentine's day Massacre* . He WAS very good, and woefully underused.
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Doesn't TCM display that MPAA rating just BEFORE the movie begins, anyway? This one HAD to have had an "R" rating. That should have told the OP SOMETHING.
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There are those from this beautiful state who take umbrage at the term "Michiganders". They however are in the minority. The Detroit Free Press columnist, the late BOB TALBERT took an "informal" poll in his column and "Michiganders" wound up on top.
I really don't care. I suppose the term "Michiganders" started as a "slam" of sorts to Michigan residents sometime way back. But it seemed Michigan residents sapped the wind out of the sails of the detractors by embracing it. Nothing defuses a provocation more than not reacting in kind. Anyway, it wasn't until I was nearly 30 when I first heard "Michiganians" used. By then, I was too accustomed to the other.
I, TOO, grew up in the old "black and white TV" days. And yes, commercial interruptions were all we knew in watching movies on the tube. Yes AGAIN, they seemed shorter. And it seemed someone had the wherewithall to place those commercial breaks during parts of the movie where some pause might naturally be, as to not jar the flow of the story.( like during a fade-out before another scene). Fortunately, I didn't watch the NBC broadcast of *It's A Wonderful Life* , as I have it on DVD, and could easily avoid the "slash and gash" the network did on it.
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Edited by: Sepiatone on Dec 29, 2012 9:59 PM
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"How many times have you heard this song;
"If I had what he had, my blues would be gone"?
But I still got the blues;
Nothin' but the blues for you!"
-Chuck Berry-
At any rate...
It's not always a case of "overplaying" a song. I mean, I STILL like "Mrs, Robinson" in spite of how overplayed IT got. Sometimes, the song just SUCKS.
To respond to another replyer(sorry, I forgot who), no, I'm NOT really highly musically trained. But I've been hacking away at the guitar for 45 years, and have been in a few bands with other members who WERE, that I picked up on SOME of the lingo. And after years of an "informal" music education, meaning LISTENING to a lot of great music from Beethoven to Brubeck, Goodman to Marvin gaye, and everthing between Amram and Zappa, I like to think I've come to recognize what a well written song SOUNDS like. And I have too strong a tendancy to use it all as a yadstick.
TIKI! You play a THREREMIN?? MAN, would I love to get my hands on( or rather, NEAR) one of THOSE! I could do magic with one. Why, I'll bet after FIVE MINUTES with a Theremin, all my neighbors would set upon my house with PITCHFORKS!!
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What a great movie!
What a terrible business plan!
I don't know if Crosby WAS a "thug who beat up his kids" or not. With only one kid seemingly doing all the complaining, it's hard to give much creedence. But one thing is clear...THIS movie is a GEM.
I suppose these days the Holiday Inn would be doing better, as there are more holidays for which it can open.
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How could anyone object to the offereings of someone who shows the CLASS to NOT mention names? You're not being cryptic, your showing MATURITY. A little more of that from some in here( including ME from time to time) would be a breath of fresh air.
Far as I can tell, this is a PUBLIC MESSAGE BOARD, NOT a country club. Let the "Mrs. Drysdales" of these forums leave if they wish to be elitists. They could follow YOUR friend's lead, and start up their OWN website, where the only people allowed are those THEY find have something that interests THEM.
I think the administrator only made his suggestion in an effort to avoid this all blowing out of proportion. But if he DIDN'T contact any of the others involved, he DOES have some "'splanin' to do". This thread already generated two pages of members offering 100% support for you and begging you NOT to leave. I for one, am joining their ranks. While I may not have agreed with everything you posted in here, I never read anything disinteresting or offensive to ME, and I fail to discern what problem that particular person has.
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While watching *Wolf* with Jack Nicholson on ENCORE the other night, my wife asked, "Who is that young actor?" I told her it was JAMES SPADER. She then said, "Oh, yeah. HIM. He always reminded me of being ROBERT REDFORD'S "love child".
I thought, "Well, OK." THEN I thought that there were other young actors or actresses today that remind me of actors from days gone by. Some at the age where they possibly COULD be someone's "love child". Can't think of his name now, but there's an actor who did a cop show on TV a few years ago that looked like he could be STEVE McQUEEN'S "love child". Others escape me now, but maybe some of you might have noticed this and your suggestions might jog my memory.
Can you think of any others?
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I'll say this much more than agree to disagree. Mostly because I like you, MissW.
I didn't TIRE of those songs. I didn't LIKE them enough to LISTEN to them enough to GET tired of them.
"Dancing In The Dark" was as plastic as a rocker like Springsteen could get. "I'm On Fire"? He'd kind of wore out that "fire" analogy by that point. What remained were songs done in a key his voice wasn't comfortable with, or chord patterns that were both uninspired and uninspiring. The only exception I'll concede is "My Hometown", as the whole country at the time was going through the same situation the song addresses. AND it's construction was over and above the rest of the album.
But getting back to PHIL COLLINS, I never COULD hear why everyone thought "In The Air" was so great.
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Ha ha! There's a movie( I forgot the title) where CAMERON DIAZ and KATE WINSLET trade homes during one Christmas season. Winslet makes friends with one of Diaz's neighbors, an old "golden age" movie screen writer( played by Eli Wallach) and at one point says to him, "I NEED corny in my life right now!"
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This is only meant to INFORM, and kindly at that. It's NOT a retort:
It's MICHIGANDERS, finance.
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MissW, as a Springsteen listener since "BORN TO RUN", I found the ENTIRE "Born In The U.S.A." LP to be disappointing. But thankfully, much of his efforts since then have redeemed him. So there's THAT. But like him as I do, I still can't get behind the idea of him being all that GREAT.
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Edited by: Sepiatone on Dec 28, 2012 4:11 PM
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Well, NOW I'll have to try and see *Christmas in Connecticut* to make that comparison. but for now, I'll take you at your word.
Not only would you have to be a stone NOT to choke a bit at the "Dutch girl" scene, but also to dislike this movie at all. It's a well written story regardless the incarnation, and there's been quite a few.
The 1990's version with Mara Wilson isn't too bad, either. Oh, some of the names of certain characters might have been changed, for some reason( Dylan McDermott, in JOHN PAYNE'S role, is given the name "Bedford" instead of "Gaily"), and the legal manuever that wins the case is changed, but equally clever. And the Dutch girl is changed to a deaf-mute girl, and Kris, communicating with her in "sign" is just as touching. While RICHARD ATTENBOROUGH as Kris is no EDMUND GWENN, his Kringle is still likeable. As many who were involved in the original had a hand in THIS remake, it couldn't really go wrong.
As for the original, kudos to the suit who hired THELMA RITTER. As a kid, I fell in love with her in *Rear Window* and have been a fan ever since.
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Edited by: Sepiatone on Dec 28, 2012 4:02 PM
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I just got here from YOUR post, Janet. This is NOT in reply to your post.
I'd like to address a few earlier responses. First, to SWITHIN:
Do you mena the song "JEAN" by OLIVER? That one is equally appalling.
WAYNE: I'm with you on the Webber thing. A woman I knew once was going on about her "night on the town" and mentioned, "Then we went to see 'The Music of Andrew Lloyd Webber' ", to which I could only reply, "Well, that sure beats the HELL out of HEARING it!"
KIM DABB: What I hated about the *Chariots of Fire* theme( and yes, they count) was that everyone who got "caught up" with it went around claming that VANGELIS was some kind of "electronic music" genius! After years of listening to Wendy(nee Walter) Carlos, Beaver and Krause, Karlheinz Stockhausen and Tomita, it wasn't hard for me to realize Vangelis was nowhere NEAR their level of talent. And I too, got tired of "Against All Odds" REAL quick! As far as GENESIS alumni goes, I never really cared a whole lot for Peter Gabriel, but at least he didn't WIMP OUT like Phil Collins!
So far, you're all doing a bang-up job on this thread. The amount of terrible songs from movies is scary, to say the least. I've yet to read a post with which I can find anything to disagree.
Springsteen overrated? Yep. And I'm a Springsteen FAN. Of sorts. I've always felt his WORST LP was the one everyone hails as his BEST. That God-awful, anemically plastic "BORN IN THE U.S.A."!
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Edited by: Sepiatone on Dec 28, 2012 3:38 PM
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Many popular songs came from movies over the years. Some really good, many simply AWFUL. I thought of this after hearing "Take My Breath Away" on the radio recently. Some of you might LIKE this song. And as popular music goes, there ARE worse. But THIS tune won an ACADEMY AWARD! OVER a much better song, lyrically and musically, like "Somewhere Out There". Yeah, it's kind of schmaltzy and syrupy. But movie songs usually are.
But "Take My Breath Away" came from the oh-so-loved movie *Top Gun* , a movie that garnered such public adoration for reasons I've yet to discern. But I digress...
I'm sure the good people here can come up with some tunes that culled high regard in spite of them being just AWFUL. For me, the short list is:
"RAINDROPS KEEP FALLING ON MY HEAD" from *Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid*
"WINDMILLS OF YOUR MIND" from *The Thomas Crown Affair* (1968)
"IT'S HARD OUT HERE FOR A PIMP" from...Who cares?
"WHAT'S NEW, PUSSYCAT" from the same titled movie
I'm just trying to prime the pump here. What else can anyone come up with?
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Raquel, you need to take a chill pill. I was responding to Whyaduck. I honestly don't KNOW how Izzcutter got into the mix. And I'm glad YOU know who I'm "reticent to address", because I have NO fu**in' idea who it would be. Perhaps you could tell me what I had for breakfast.
I'm not telling anybody to "lay off" giving their opinions. The "lay off Andy Hardy, willya" was meant tongue-in-cheek. Ever hear of it? I suggest, SUGGEST, mind you, NOT telling you, to try having a sense of humor, if any OTHER kind of sense escapes you.
Playing the condescending "school marm" isn't very becoming, Raquel. I don't appreciate being scolded like a 1st grade schoolboy because you seem to take things out of context. If we were to desist using any form of sarcasm or good natured ribbing every now and then in these forums, it would make these message boards kind of dry and boring, don't you think?
Or, DON'T you?
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Colorful stuff, tea.
Black tea, orange peako, Earl Grey, green tea. Why NOT pink?
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To be honest, the thought of RO cussing gives me a new level of RESPECT for the man!
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Filmgoddess wrote:
"Oh Lord. It's a movie. Fiction for Heaven's sake"
TWO religious referrences in one reply! ISN'T it the gist of the movie anyway?
And yet nobody makes a big deal about the religious undercurrent in *The Day The Earth Stood Still* . Interesting...
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I agree that Andy Hardy is dated. And I agree they're corny movies. I further agree that Andy Hardy doesn't say Christmas cheer to me. But I still LIKE them. BECAUSE they're dated. BECAUSE they're corny. If my chin's on my chest, they lift it up enough to make me CHUCKLE and lighten my mood. It also doesn't hurt that I have a brother-in-law that resembles the young Mickey Rooney. So there's THAT giggle!
Hell, you're talking about TCM!
ALL those "pre-codes", noirs, screwball comedies and post-war dramas are dated! Yes, even STANWYCK'S. ESPECIALLY Stanwyck's. OK, so they're WELL WRITTEN and ACTED and DIRECTED dated movies, but nonetheless. Isn't that why we watch them?
Andy Hardy movies were the '30's-'40's version of today's "family feel good" movies. Going to the theater to see an Andy Hardy flick was the equivalent of going to go see "TIMOTHY GREEN" today. Those Hardy films also might have bored the crap out of many movie goers back THEN as well. My Mother grew up in those times, and once said of Andy Hardy, "To quote Spencer Tracy in that one movie, in MY school we'd eat punks like HIM for breakfast!".
Why, we each try to explain to our detractors, who fail to understand what we see in watching all these "dusty old movies", that to sit down and view them within the context of when they were made, THEY might enjoy them, too.
So, GEE WHIZ! Lay OFF Andy Hardy, willya?
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I saw BOTH those movies, ham.
The newer Disney CGI flick isn't all that bad, as it follows the 1951 version a bit closer than any others. And I liked the gimmick where Cratchet, voiced by GARY OLDMAN is animated to RESEMBLE Oldman, as is COLIN FIRTH as Scrooge's nephew Fred. As I can't stand Jim Carrey in the first place, I was surprised how much I liked this one.
That other one, with Carrie Fisher, is another "Lifemark", or is it Halltime", movie hunk of cowpie. The WORST was the version where VANESSA WILLIAMS plays a character who, instead of named "Ebenezer" is named "Ebony"!
OY!
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Happy Kwanzaa!
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I don't celebrate Kwanzaa either. For the same reason I don't acknowledge Cinco De Mayo.
Neither has anything to do with me.
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