Sepiatone
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No, I DON'T know who!
And what does any of that matter? Well, to SOME it might.
I have two old friends from high school who over the years shifted their political beliefs in a totally opposite direction. I shifted mine down a side road. Because I disagree with them politically, one of them has nothing to do with me anymore, while the other one couldn't care less. We jab good naturedly at each other and then move on to other topics. I have a similar relationship with a brother-in-law. The first guy, however, seems not to be able to take a joke. I don't understand that. Many other friends I communicate with have differing and opposite opinions than mine about a wide variety of things; politics, music, sports, cars, you name it. But we remain friends because the friendship wasn't based on much of it, and there are plenty of things we can discuss that have nothing to do with ANY of it. In fact, it's the DIFFERENCE of opinion that keeps a few of us close. Go figure.
If I can extend that much flexibility among those I know personally, why shouldn't I have the same generosity with those I DON'T know personally, such as musicians or movie actors?
Some people I know won't ever see a movie by some such actor who left his wife of umpteen years for a younger, prettier actress. So what? Not knowing what his relationship with his wife of umpteen years was LIKE before he left her, who are they to judge? Could be he's been wanting to dump her YEARS ago and just now got around to it.
As my favorite literary character, Atticus Finch would say, "You got to put another man's shoes on and walk around a bit..."
If you're going to judge an actor and actress based on YOUR personal criteria, be prepared to have very few choices of movies to watch.
If you're going to do the same with people in your personal life, prepare to be pretty much insular and lonely.
Of course, I can see not wishing to view any movie by someone who was later found to be a pedophile, wife beater, or anything else that's salicious. That's something else entirely. But over something that's widely accepted in society in general? That just seems kind of pompous to me.
There are many other good reasons not to listen to Ted Nugent outside of his killing animals or his politics.
It's easy for the self righteous to kick Lindsay Lohan while she's down. If she had ever won an Oscar or Golden Globe, then all the needless vitriol I read here would be more valid.
Since the young lady in the epicenter of all the drama involving Woody Allen's personal life was OK with it all back then, and is OK with it all these years later, it's time to get over it.
Using Hitler as an example in a discussion of separating the art from the artist is weakened by the fact that Hitler really WASN'T that much of an artist. While he did splendid work in two demensional, architectual sketching, he was rejected by many art acadamies because he lacked rudimentary skills in depth perception and any ability to represent the human form.
My wife LOVES asparagus, Brussels sprouts and spinach. I can't STAND them. Maybe I shoudn't love her anymore?
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Aww...Addison.
There are movies I don't care for either. But NONE with the militant fervor you reserve for this movie.
There ARE worse movies, y'know. AND many of THEM are shown as often, and in some cases, MORE often than SASG. It almost sounds personal.
Maybe instead of SWALLOWING the stuff in your gullet, you should HOCK IT OUT.
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Some places do show some of the old TV shows, but not all in one place. And following the schedule is kinda tricky with some 300+ channels to keep track of.
Encore Westerns, for example, show many *Rawhide* and *Wagon Train* episodes. But I always catch them while surfing, and never noted if they're shown in regular scheduling. Starz Suspense occasionally shows old *Alfred Hitchcock Presents* episodes, but again, I'm not sure of the scheduling.
It would be nice if they could all be wrapped up on one channel. One that would be part of every cable outlet's line-up. Does me no good if it's on some channel that my service doesn't carry. Nickleodeon used to show old TV stuff. Then TVland was supposed to take over those duties. Somehow they got blown off course.
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THAT'S the idea, Flashback. And GOOD ONES, too!
*Romeo Must Die Hard Day's Night And Day of The Triffids*
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Thanks, Dargo.
Euginia, I too, am NOT a fan of that "hand-held" filming technique seen so frequently in action movies and TV dramas. I'm reminded of the times my jerkwad brother-in-law thought it was "cute" to have his then five-year-old son take over the video taping duties at family events.
The results looked pretty much the same. Perhaps he should sue somebody?
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I think *Sex and the Single Girl* is a cute movie. NOT a "blockbuster" or "Towering epic' for sure, But it can be somewhat enjoyable to watch.
Having said that, I also agree with the frequency. There are movies I can watch over and over. But NONE to the point of infinity. With such a large library, if TCM wanted to show light fare on a sunday afternoon, there's always the not-so-great but amusing *Good Neighbor Sam* , *The Odd Couple* , *Barefoot In The Park* or any number of Doris Day/James Garner/Rock Hudson movies NOT shown with the frequency of "Single Girl". Hell, I'd just LOVE hunkering down with a fresh, hot cup of coffee some Sunday afternoon this winter and while away the hours watching LAUREL and HARDY shorts!
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You know you're a film geek when...
...you know all the obscure character actors by name.
...you announce to all in the room(who are already tired of hearing you), "Hey! Spencer Tracey had that SAME LAMP in another movie!"
...you can tell if the director of a movie you're watching copied the style of another director
...you can name all the movies Virginia Mayo and Steve Cochoran made together
...you can claim you've seen ALL the remakes of some movie, and can name ALL those in the casts
...you can, without seeing the opening credits, name who did the make-up, costumes and music
...you can relate who some actor or actresses SON is, and know what THEY do for a living
...you can inform who "they" wanted to get originally for the starring role
...you can say for a fact that "so-and-so" was DRUNK while filming some 30 second scene you just watched
...every one else in the room yells at you to "Shut UP already!"
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Haven't we discussed the disconnect from an artist and their art before?
Anyway, it's always a good discussion topic. And I imagine some of it would have to do with whatever said artist has DONE in their personal life and how it jibes with YOUR personal feelings.
I don't care if my coffee maker was built by an adulterer. I don't consider it that much of a crime. Unless, of course, if he was adulturous with MY WIFE. THAT might make a difference. But as one who would be considered an adulterer at one point of my life, it would be foolish for me to take umbrage.
If I like any artist's work, I don't care if they're a transvestite, gay, athiest, Catholic, right-wing, left-wing, vegan or whatever. If they were a child molester however, I'd be left to wonder how someone, like the man who made your book bag, could make something so beautiful, yet also do something so ugly.
I still like Walter Brennan in spite of his racism.
I still like old Shirley Temple movies in spite of her conservatism.
I still like Bob Crane in spite of his personal sexual depravity, mostly because it was between consenting adults.
I still listen to my old Cat Stevens recordings in spite of his Islamic fundementalism.
I still cherish my Frank Zappa collection in spite of his basically being a jerk otherwise.
I really don't see the sense in disregarding a talented artist's work simply because they're not the kind of person you'd invite to dinner. As I said, it all depends on WHAT is done in their personal lives and how it affects your personal sensibilities. I'd never condemn anybody for how they react in any situation I've never faced, or haven't yet faced. I usually try to avoid being an "armchair" judge and jury. We here as movie fans have to beware of judging someone based on what little actual facts we're privy to. I've always felt a little sorry for Fatty Arbuckle because as far as I know, he threw a party that got out of control. From all I've been able to discover about the incident, Arbuckle was cleared of any personal wrongdoing. But it STILL wound up ruining his career. And that always seemed terribly unfair. The reason I DON'T watch any of his movies is because I never really cared for them. Personally, and fortunately, many people I know still come to my house in spite of my once throwing a New Year's party where a guy I know started beating up his wife in a drunken rage. They wisely didn't blame ME for it, and it's all now forgotten.
But returning to the point, for me, usually performance trumps personality.
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It would have been nice if he could have cited some examples. But he could have a point. Stanley Kramer for example, used to be the hottest thing on toast. For many years, it seemed he could do no wrong. But the last film of his I saw was some turkey in which Dick Van Dyke played a priest who had a love affair with a nun. Not exactly his best effort.
I'm sure that a lot of the industry's better directors reached the ends of their careers at a time when movie making took a far different path than they were used to working on, and couldn't keep up with changing trends and tastes and this is what Tarrantino could be referring to.
But yeah, if he gave some examples we'd be in a better position to make further comment.
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You do realize, Stephan, that Robin Williams cites Winters as a major influence? Not hard to notice. It's why Williams lobbied hard to get Winters a recurring role on his "Mork and Mindy" show.
Anyway, HAPPY BIRTHDAY, Jonathan. You're a HOOT!
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I'm with Dargo. LOVED that film. And I'd like to know whenever TCM would show it, too.
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I think it was wise of George Martin to bring in Billy Preston with an exuse of having someone handle keyboard work to save time on overdubs or something. Martin knew that if he brought in an "outsider" to work with them, the boys would be on their best behavior and get something done. And it worked!
Anyway...I'd like to mention limiting the offerings to the "British Invasion". By 1966 or so, it was old news. So the ideas that someone earlier suggested( "Ziggy Stardust", "The Song Remains The Same" etc.) are "post" invasion, and would just muddle up the works. But they ARE good films, nonetheless.
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Flashback, you're not exactly doing what's required, but WHAT you're doing, making sentences out of stringing titles together, is kinda cool, too!
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*Cop Land Of The Lost Weekend at Bernie's*
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My wife made those comments about young Mr. Shaefer more as to his skill rather than appearance. He IS quite a talented kid.
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If you expand it to "Rock'nRoll goes to the movies", you'll get it full of all that for sure, PLUS Elvis movies, those campy old Alan Freed flicks, Frankie and Annette "Beach Blanket" movies and maybe even one or two of those early Cliff Richards efforts. THEN it'll have to be a TWO MONTH feature!
Heavens to Mersey!
Let us, for now, limit it to the "British Invasion".
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IZ, you hit on something.
Back "in the day" a kid (me) could go to the local theater and see TWO movies, a couple of cartoons, a preview or two and be able to afford to buy something at the concession counter. ALL on his meager $3 a week allowance.
The theater in my hometown for years had the same little old lady that ran the concession. She was behind that counter from the time I was about six or seven right up until I was 20, just before it shut down and first tried having local rock band "concerts" and then later turning(like many did) into a porn house. The theater is STILL there, but in building only. And that little old lady seemed to never age.
The concession used to sell potato chips in "noiseless" bags, and they actually WERE! I was there practically every weekend.
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I signed this petition for two reasons
1. Although there are several channels now that show movies, most of what they show seemed to be picked as "time fillers" and not really worth the time. SNATM used to be shown on the Windsor Ont. CBC outlet and the fare offered was far better than most other channels.
2. Elwy Yost was kinda cool. And knew his stuff!
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TCM showed *In Cold Blood* again last night(or early this morning). THIS is an excellent example of a GOOD adaptation. Yes, Capote's book DID get into greater detail, but this adaptation managed to leave all the MEAT of the story intact.
And I wasn't referring to "thrift" BOOK stores. I meant "thrift" stores in general, like COUNCIL for the BLIND and others like that( Salvation Army, Value World etc.).
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We've seemed to move a bit from child actors in movies to those who appear in TV shows. OK then, my nomination for a good "kid" actor is the kid who plays "Brick" in "The Middle". I put the quotation marks on kid because my WIFE is convinced he's really 30 years old!
In movies, MARA WILSON had a lot of chops. PLUS the ability to be utterly adorable in spite of not really being cute. How good is THAT?
I was never particularily fond of MARGARET O'BRIEN, but still undecided if it's HER, or the type of kids they had her play.
Larry Mathew's "Ritchie" was the most candy-a**ed, whiny, twerpy little brat ever to grace the tube. I don't BLAME the Petries for keeping him out of sight a lot.
And I always thought in lieu of how the character Ray Barone behaved, them having children was redundant.
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Well, *Yellow Submarine* isn't REALLY a "Beatles movie". They only appear in that short bit at the end. Even the VOICES of the animated Beatles were done by actors.
However, it WOULD fit in that "British invasion in Movies" thing.
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Thank you, Raquel.
I have a cousin who still lives in Livonia( he grew up there, still lives in the house his late parents had on W. Chicago and retired after working for the city some near 30 years), an old school chum that lives on Ann Arbor Trail, and I finished out my GM tenure at the old engine plant on Middlebelt.
And yes, I still live in Lincoln Park. I moved around a bit over the years, but managed to come "full circle" if you will.
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Thank you.
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Is it happening on other channels? Might be somehow the "closed caption" option was somehow enabled. If it's only happening on TCM, then I'm at a loss.
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O.T. Mr Food passes away.
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Jeez, what a shame. Sad news for sure.
Now we're stuck with all those self important, intolerant "experts" on The Food Network.
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