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Well, I never considered either of them all that attractive. But I based earlier opinions of that about Bette based on her later career flicks which were the ones I was most familiar with until the advent of both the early AMC and then TCM, which featured the earlier works from both actresses. And I think the young Bette was more attractive than the young Babs, but that doesn't mean I think Babs wasn't attractive. But before any of that, When that song "Bette Davis Eyes" came out, the firs thing I could think of were eyes with huge bags under them!
But talent wise, I'd say they were each other's equal.
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Although I can't list the source( it being so many years ago) I do recall an article about those Western movie and TV shootouts.
One point being that those early handguns were so inaccurate that two guys could shoot at each other at very close range and STILL miss each other by a wide margin. Rifle shootouts were more on the mark as those Winchester repeaters were far more accurate than a Colt pistol. And too...
The article I read mentioned that the time-honored "cliche" of two men "drawing" on each other had to be myth due to not only the inaccuracy of the pistols, but the added factor that ANY of those guns, from .45 down to .38 fired with so much "kick"( recoil) that one man's bullet might easily strike some unfortunate person as far as ten feet to the right or left of the intended target. OR anything up to ten feet in the air above it. That's IF the pistol wasn't flung from the grip of the shooter's hand, likely fastened to a severely sprained wrist. As far as the "miracle" healing from those gunshot wounds...
The only "proof" I can offer is to recant the story of a neighbor of mine in Southwest Detroit who died after being struck by a 9mm slug from a gun fired by some fool at midnight one New Year's. The slug hit him mid thigh, which went through the thigh bone completely and caused the shattered bone to cut into his femoral artery causing internal exsanguination and his death. Poor guy was only 25.
And all this also goes for shootouts and gunfights in gangster and other Noir movie gunplay.
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22 hours ago, lilypond said:
Ha, ha, thanks for catching that, alert SEPIATONE. I must have been thinking of my late uncle, who was a Lew, not a Lou!
Heh.... Better than being known as a LOO!
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19 hours ago, RMeingast said:
Also watched "The Red Green Show" back in the day:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_ShowThat show came out of a previous TV series that I remember watching titled "Smith & Smith" on CHCH and starring Steve Smith and his wife Morag:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Smith
I probably watched more of "Smith & Smith" than "Red Green."
"Red Green" clip:
"Smith & Smith" clip:
LOVE Red Green. But didn't know Smith did earlier TV. Extremely talented guy. Hope to see and hear more from him in ensuing years.
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3 hours ago, Roy Cronin said:
I think Bette could have done a good job as bedridden Leona in "Sorry, Wrong Number."
The hysteria would possibly have been amped up even more.
Sure, that's one, but.....
I can't see Bette doing BALL OF FIRE
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Babs doing OF HUMAN BONDAGE.
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1 minute ago, lilypond said:
FAUSTERLITZ, what a closely and persuasively reasoned analysis of the two of them-- love it and agree with most.
SPEEDRACERS, glad you mentioned Jean Arthur. She's on my supplementary, next level-list with Claudette and Ida. Jean Arthur, Depression-era angel exhorting the despairing Jimmy Stewart, in that voice, and with that spunk (unlike Lew Grant, I love spunk), immortal. I'm so glad she had that late-career role in "Shane" too, bittersweet and quietly luminous.
Meant "LOU" did you?
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15 hours ago, TopBilled said:
They're all good in their own way.
I think Claudette had the most prestigious career because she was able to avoid "B" films and stayed away from low-budget television productions. She was able to maintain her status as a glamorous star, even into old age.
Here she is in the lavish 1987 miniseries The Two Mrs. Grenvilles.
Oddly, on my PC I saw only a link to the photo, and when I clicked on it I only saw a picture of a cat. (?) But when I "quoted" that post, THEN the photo you posted showed up!
As to the Stanwyck/Davis query.....
I haven't seen Stanwyck in as many "meaty" roles as Bette, so comparison for me is difficult. But then that's another "eye of beholder/semantics" issue. But I'll try to simplify....
I don't think Bette could have given the justice that Babs did in many of her roles, and vice/versa.
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Who knows, TOP. I'm thinking "Best Performance" could be a THIRD category, and the one who gets THAT statuette could very well be NEITHER of the people nominated in the other two categories.
And these days, there might be some who clamor for the creation of a "Best BINARY performer" category and do away with the ACTOR and ACTRESS categories.
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Sure, Canadian produced movies are no worse or necessarily better than Hollywood fare. A couple I like are;
THE SILENT PARTNER('78) -(I've been vocal about this one here several times)
CANDY MOUNTAIN('88) -- At least I think it's a Canadian production.
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Thanks, BETH. And another of my favorite scores with great musical content( and a movie high on my "like" list);
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16 hours ago, misswonderly3 said:
Oh yes, lovable Elwy Yost and "Saturday Night at the Movies" ; Elwy was showing classic , often rare old movies long before TCM was even a twinkle in Ted Turner's eye.
What a great show that was, I so looked forward to it. Saw many great old movies for the first time on "Saturday Night at the Movies".
Wasn't available to all Canadians, just Ontario residents, since it was a TVO production.
We got Mr. Yost and his program here in the metro Detroit area too. Yep, surely a movie host that set the bar high.
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3 minutes ago, Toto said:
3. The Red Balloon (French film without words) Has a theme of innocence and imagination. I find it very unique.
Seems more of a short to me. But I brought it up before as one of the films a local TV station would show annually for several years each Thanksgiving after the J.L. Hudson(Detroit) parade.
1956? Well.... that was the year I entered Kindergarten. I wasn't impressed.
Movie wise....
Several of my faves from that year already were listed. Some I would add that I also like are;
BABY DOLL
THE BENNY GOODMAN STORY ( good music in that one
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THE BOLD AND THE BRAVE
BUS STOP
THE EDDIE DUCHIN STORY
THE GIRL CAN'T HELP IT( good music in that one, too
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MOBY DICK
TRAPEZE
GOOD-BYE, MY LADY
I won't get into all that Actor-Actress boosh-whah.
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Back to movie themes are we? OK.....
My two cents........
Love that Jack Nitsche.
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I liked some of the mock TV shows that SCTV would advertise that looked more interesting than what was really offered by U.S. networks. Like----
And their send-up of FANTASY ISLAND with Joe Flaherty and Dave Thomas doing a spot on impression of Hope and Crosby (Dave as Hope and Joe as Bing)
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1 hour ago, rjbartrop said:
It's tweaking my memory, but I'm going to have to do some digging. I want to say it's a spinoff of The Beachcombers, but I'm not sure.
UPDATE: " Adventures in Rainbow Country", and "Search and Rescue" sound close. Either of those ring a bell?
The CBC used to play a lot of vintage movies in the afternoon. It's where I got my fix before I discovered TCM.
I grew up in the Lower Mainland, so I remember CBUT well. CTV, Canada's first private TV network, used to fill its schedule with a lot of ITV programming. The cult favourite "The Prisoner" actually made its debut on CTV before it as shown in England. Between that, and KVOS in Bellingham showing so many British films and sitcoms, I developed quite a fondness for British film and TV.
SCTV is a national treasure. For an earlier generation, Wayne and Shuster were Canadian comedy gold.
/https://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/opinion/editorials/2011/08/25/salutin_wayne_and_shusters_comedy_of_gratitude/wayne_andshuster.jpeg)
HA! Loved those guys! Would tune in on Windsor, Ont.'s CKLW to see 'em. And as a kid, would turn to that channel(9 here in the Detroit area) to see Johnny Weismuller TARZAN movies on their MILLION DOLLAR MOVIE broadcasts. And later on catch the "classic" movie fare on channel 9's "Bill Kennedy Presents" before Bill moved to channel 50 here in the states by '70.
And in another thread, already mentioned a couple kid's shows Me or my sister would watch. That channel also had some guy doing BOZO the Clown in the late '60's too.
And I first caught "Second City"( how my TV listing book had it listed) on Detroit's PBS station in the later '70's before the big U.S. NBC network took it on in '81.
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21 hours ago, JamesJazGuitar said:
There is no "new rule" going on here with this name change since they did this because they wanted to and not because of pressure from activist groups; They didn't wish to be associated with the term "Dixie".
Thus I see nothing to mock here.
Well then, it might be considered surprising that some activist group didn't voice objection to the name "Chicks" and made them consider changing THAT name to "The PEEPS"
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15 hours ago, lilypond said:
RJBARTROP, since you were in a Canadian TV market back then, did you get "The Friendly Giant", the world's best children's show, with Bob Homme? Complete with a recorder warbling "Greensleeves"? If you weren't in an Ontario market, though, you might not have gotten it-- might've been only in eastern Canada....
Living here in the metro Detroit area( just across the river from Windsor, Ont.) we got much Canadian TV on VHF CKLW TV (channel 9) and of course, "The Friendly Giant", but me and my friends were too old to be into it( as it debuted in '58, and we were all born in '51) but most our younger brothers and sisters watched it. Me? Well....
There was the local Windsor kids productions like CAPTAIN JOLLY, with actor Toby David as the captain presenting Popeye cartoons. JINGLES with Jerry Booth and puppet sidekicks Herkimer Dragon and Cecil B. Rabbit.
My kid sister used to watch a show out of Canada called "Mr. Dressup" while I was leaving to go to high school in the morning. I once joked to our Mom.....
"Mr. Dressup. Isn't that what we called the guy down the block who always wore his wife's cothes?"
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3 hours ago, Bethluvsfilms said:
I was actually made to sing that along with my classmates in my music class in high school.
I love the Muppets though. No one can sing it better than Kermit, I must say.
I dunno....
I've always liked this guy's style!
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Car chases always entertain.
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3 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
I do have to mention though, I found the opening credits for UNDER THE YUM YUM TREE astounding:
Well, at least there was something worth watching in that flick.
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18 hours ago, Hibi said:
I love woodpeckers. Used to see them a lot at my last location. Dont see any around my new one.
Beautiful birds.
Never saw one for real, but hear them at work now and then 'round my 'hood. Usually sounding they're over on the next block.
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21 hours ago, unwatchable said:
For your pennance, say six "Hail, Black Masks" and genuflect at the altar of Hammett on your way out of the confessional.
And after genuflecting, I'll dance away singing( to the tune of "Fiddler" 's "If I were a Rich Man") "If I Were A Thin Man!" 
18 hours ago, Vautrin said:FETV ran Peter Gunn for years. It seemed it would never end, but it finally did. I had never seen that program before then. It was
pretty decent. Gunn had that late 1950s jazz and beatnik vibe down pat. A lot of artsy, bohemians came into Petey's orbit.
Mannix has been on FETV for a couple of weeks. Not very noirish but enjoyable. Last night Joe tackled a group of neo-Nazis,
who just didn't have that original Nazi je ne sais quoi. A pretty sad lot.
Mancini's theme for PETER GUNN was a very popular TV theme , although when it was released as a single, it failed to chart for some reason. Still, it's still a pretty cool theme.
And in that MANNIX episode last night.....
Joe didn't get hit in the HEAD, did he?
Seemed like every episode that dude was getting smacked on the back of his head. We figured in real life, he'd eventually be unable to talk and would have to be spoon fed.
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11 hours ago, HoldenIsHere said:
Yeah, I thought TOOTSIE was fun too, and in reference to this scene, I like when BILL MURRAY walks in on the goings on and when George Gaynes leaves, looks disgusted at Hoffman and says; "You...S L U T!"
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Well, I'm not sure the OP is going on about the LOOK of the credit titles, but whatever......
My sticking around for the closing credits depends on the movie. For instance, if there's a tune played among some others in a movie that I'm curious about, many flicks will list the song's name and the artist who performed it in the closing credits. OR the classical piece's name and performers, or such. And say, for an animated feature, who did the voice for some cartoon character whose name wasn't in the opening credits and sounded familiar to me but I couldn't quite place. Plus any location info that might interest me. But I'd always joke that I "needed" to stay and see who the "best boy" was! Then complain mockingly, "I don't understand WHY there's no Oscar category for "best best boy" or "Grip"!
Or I'll allude that I might want to hire the caterer of the movie and need to know who that was.
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Beautiful birds.
An interesting piece about Shootouts and Gunfights - Film vs Reality
in General Discussions
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Well, if you'd have READ Joe's OP( assuming you've the ability) you'd have known NOBODY did.
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