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OK So we can have DRAG Queens and.... GARD KINGS! Sepiatone

I remember reading somewhere many moons ago that Rathbone was a British army fencing champ and would often instruct Flynn on techniques to help him look convincing in their film duels together. He also did the same for Power. But there's no real "vs" concerning the two movies. Two completely different stories and characters. Sure, there's the injustice and oppression angles, But Zorro has a "secret identity" (Don Diego, a member of the same aristocracy his alter ego menaces and is a character created in a 1919 pulp fiction book, while Robin Hood is mostly upfront as to his identity and leads a band of "merry men" while Zorro worked alone. And whether or not there was a "real" robin Hood is still being debated. As for one movie being better than the other, well....... That's purely subjective and depending on one's personal opinion. Sepiatone

HA! When I started working at Cadillac it was on the afternoon shift. And getting home from work at 11:30 at night I would unwind by catching all those hilarious Japanese STARMAN flicks! The man in a rubber monster suit fighting Starman trying to get away by doing BACK FLIPS and Starman pursuing him by ALSO doing back flips was a hoot! But you have to remember.. STARMAN was a robot, from a planet that was inhabited by nothing but robots(and who built them was never made clear), and was built to resemble the "Earthlings" that inhabit planet Earth. Who apparently all look Japanese! When '84's STARMAN with Jeff Bridges came out the title brought back those memories and piqued my curiosity as to what it might be about(acrobatic robots fighting rubber-suit monsters? ) and was glad I wasn't disappointed by what it is. Sepiatone

My first guess would be that Warren resented Shirley for being prettier than he is. But that's just me being "catty". Sepiatone

So, "drag" works both ways? Sepiatone

I'd pick THE PARALLAX VIEW as Beatty's best, and THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN as the worst. And HOFFMAN? LITTLE BIG MAN his best, JOHN AND MARY his worst. Sepiatone

Yeah, but I was meaning male impersonating not only as a "claim to fame" (as in Linda Hunt) but also as their main forte( like RuPaul's "drag" career). For example.. MS.s Ullman, Tomlin, Smith are more noted for their work as actresses and comediennes and not their seldom delves into male impersonation. Sepiatone

I've only seen the '93 and '49 versions of this story. Bored by both. I'm sure this new version is just as boring, no mattr how diverse they cast it. Sepiatone

For me, Fonda's "best" and "worst" jumps around career-wise. Especially for one with a stunning overall filmography. For me, his"best" is a coin-toss between his Tom Joad in THE GRAPES OF WRATH and his Norman Thayer in ON GOLDEN POND. His worst, in my mind, would be his dismal miscasting in the role of Henry Stamper in the equally dismal SOMETIMES A GREAT NOTION. As for Hitch, his "best" and "Worst" picks would depend on how well one liked or disliked particular movies. Like VERTIGO for instance. I could EASILY choose it as his worst because I really, really, REALLY don't like that movie. But still, others would pick it as his best. So, y'all know my pick for worst. And since like Fonda, Hitch too has a stunning overall filmography, my pick for "best" will depend on criteria of; Difficulty of filming; Situation the cast was in, and being a good study of the human array of foibles, weaknesses and strengths and willingness to work together despite vast differences in manifold personalities . And by those aspects for his best I'd pick LIFEBOAT. Sepiatone

Remember.... I suggested the reverse possibility. So, if a woman dresses and disguises herself as a man, is it still called "Drag"? I don't recall anyone being famous as a "Male Impersonator". Although in life I've met many supposed men I thought were. Sepiatone

Not remembering the title(but not on purpose) but the one with Sylvester and Tweety which has Granny threatening to give Sylvester to the violin string factory if he doesn't leave Tweety alone tickled each time I've seen it. I had to explain to my kids(when they got to seeing it) that violin strings were once made of a material from various animal intestines and called catgut, but never was the intestines from cats ever used. There still seems to be some debate as to where the name comes from. But it did become the impetus for a gag by FRED ALLEN about pseudo rival JACK BENNY'S violin playing. The schtick of Benny's was him thinking he was a great violinist while he didn't play well at all(in reality, Benny was a very competent violinist and his dismal playing was done for laughs) Fred Allen once quipped; "Benny plays the fiddle like the strings are still in the cat!" Sepiatone

Well, only by 6 years. Sepiatone

Can't argue with those. Especially the JIMMY STEWART "Mr. Smith"/"Firecreek" thing. This might take some thought time for me on this very good thread idea, but off the top of the head.... MARLON BRANDO. This is open to subjective differences on his best, as many would be divided by ON THE WATERFRONT('54) and probably THE GODFATHER('72). But for me.... There can be NO argument that his worst and most wasted effort was A COUNTESS FROM HONG KONG('67) Neither Brando's talent, Chaplin's brilliance nor Sophia Loren's beauty could turn this swill into something swell. Sepiatone

I don't think it's always a matter of it being "fashionable" to malign Cimino. I think he's a good director too. He just needs to hire an editor. Or at least a better one. It can be if you're expecting a film that has anything to do with George Gershwin. But other than that it's a pretty good flick. Sepiatone

Yeah, but..... Maybe too, they WERE brother and sister, and sometimes(just for kicks) did the "Parent Trap" thing and traded off? For instance... Maybe it was brother ERIC who was actually in LIFEBOAT('44) and Tallulah in CANTERBURY TALE('44)? Sepiatone

Say..... Maybe there WASN'T a "real" Tallulah Bankhead. Maybe it was Eric Portman in DRAG!?! Or(heh!) VICE-VERSA! Sepiatone

But y'know.... I've never considered it that much of a Robert Redford movie. Not a whole lot of screen time there for him. Even ANGIE DICKINSON doesn't seem to have much to do. Sepiatone

And with all that talk of Coop, why no mention of.... Sepiatone

I can get where she's coming from. Long movies can sometimes seem like a chore to sit through. But that's mostly for people who either don't like long movies for whatever reason( weak bladder/ short attention span/ other time constraints, etc.) or are otherwise forced or wheedled into watching a long movie about a topic they don't care about. One example can be really my really liking the movie GANDHI and wouldn't really mind it if it were even a bit longer, or my wife's outright thorough hatred of it regardless of it's original length or even if it was just a 90 minute presentation. Then there are movies I feel would be better if some time was shaved off. Like----- THE DEER HUNTER: pare 45 minutes from it and you'd still have a great movie. ie: We don't need all that footage of the carload of buddies taking off on one of them as he reaches the car door. Six or seven times(I lost count). And we also don't need to view almost the ENTIRE wedding reception, do we? But I'll wait until I actually SEE the movie before I determine it's too long for me to sit through which might also mean I won't bother with it again. Sepiatone

I didn't really care for Gatsby, and it seemed to me that critics liked his performance so much he felt he needed to be Gatsby in several movies he made after it. Sepiatone

If(as one here claimed) you can't go wrong with Henry Fonda, then there's THE TIN STAR('57) and for a fun one.... THE CHEYENNE SOCIAL CLUB('70) with old pal Jimmy Stewart and not a Fonda film, but.... THE CULPEPPER CATTLE CO.('72) is an OK one. ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST ('69) is another Fonda western not to be overlooked. It also stars Charles Bronson who also stars in BREAKHEART PASS('75) Sepiatone

Y'know, I don't get the "soap opera" thing people said about this movie. It would seem the same claim could be made about a good 95% of the "classic" collection. And as far as that goes, I'd say DOCTOR ZHIVAGO is WAY more "soap opera" than "The Big Country", And how many times HAVE you seen Zhivago? And how THEN did you ever find the time? Sepiatone

I like all the Redford performances mentioned so far, but favorites out of them are..... THE CANDIDATE JEREMIAH JOHNSON BAREFOOT IN THE PARK and the unmentioned THE NATURAL and LITTLE FAUST AND BIG HALSEY Sepiatone

Length has nothing to do with it for me. Unless a movie is scheduled what might be too late in the evening for me. And the idea here is discussing what delays our watching a classic movie, not what causes us to keep from watching or wanting to watch some particular classic movie. Like Top's "delay" in not getting around to watch THE BIG COUNTRY....... I don't recall Top ever claiming a dislike for the Western genre. Or a dislike for Charlton Heston, Gregory Peck, Charles Bickford or Jean Simmons. And it can't be the length, as I don't seem to recall that complaint from him about LAWRENCE OF ARABIA and other "epics" of similar length. So, level with us Top...... Is it unavoidable delay.... or some other kind of personal hesitation.? You know, there's really nothing to be afraid of about the movie. Sepiatone

Some of mine would be... THE QUIET MAN also, HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY Of course, her HUNCHBACK debut McLINTOCK MR. HOBBS TAKES A VACATION MIRACLE ON 34th STREET And I'm with ya ARI, on ONLY THE LONELY. And I think TCM's problem with it was that it's mostly a JOHN CANDY movie. But I really enjoyed it too. And Quinn's appearance didn't hurt it any. Sepiatone