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I've always considered it a "down to Earth" kind of beauty instead of just surface glamour. Sepiatone (at least I know what I mean)

I've only seen four on your list up there myself. All worth a look. Metropolis (1927) The Passion Of Joan Of Arc (1928) To Be Or Not To Be (1942) Wild Strawberries (1957) The first two silents offer stunning cinematography and effects, more so METROPOLIS. And if you like a lot of sad faced close ups, the Joan of Arc flick will fill that bill. TO BE OR NOT TO BE, in my opinion, is probably Jack Benny's best foray into motion pictures. WILD STRAWBERRIES is typical Bergman psychological gut wrench, but a good story if you find either a dubbed copy or can read subtitles fast enough as to not miss much of what was photographed. Sepiatone

To which Bugs comes back with, "Remember, 'Mud' spelled backwards, is 'DUM'! Which too, is a good one for that "wisecracks" thread. Sepiatone

I thought they worked well together in SOLDIER IN THE RAIN, so I wouldn't have minded if STEVE McQUEEN and JACKIE GLEASON teamed up again in something else. Sepiatone

So.... THERE to YOU TOO! Sepiatone

So, the first pairing of Lauren Bacall( 19) and Bogey( 45) in TO HAVE OR HAVE NOT didn't give you any "ick" factor? And Allhallows thinks both Bogey and Coop could have been Audrey Hepburns' grandfather? That would have made Coop a grandpa at 28, and Bogey grandpa at 30! So how young must their sons or daughters have been? Example: People always said me and my ex had our first child at young ages. I was 21 and she was 19. which means if either decided to have children, and waited until they were the same age as either of their parents were, I wouldn't have become a grandpa until I was 42! Sepiatone

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On my PC all I got was a link to that image( I'm supposing) but once clicking on it was informed that I didn't have "permission" to see it! Sepiatone

Ha! Looks like tonight and tomorrow afternoon are going to be good for me! Sepiatone

When I think of Vivian and a tragic character, I think of her Blanche DuBoise from A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE. And some might think it odd, but I long felt the monster that was crated by the mad doctor in FRANKENSTEIN was a tragic character based on the idea he was created from various parts from dead men, and given life at what might be considered an "adult" age, with no previous "upbringing" to internally inform him of right from wrong and to not live all that long before dying in such a tragic and horrible manner. (but really luckily living long enough to do all those sequels. ) Sepiatone

I forgot about that. But then, I found that movie to be forgettable. Sepiatone

I mentioned this a few years ago in some other thread, and it still bugs me I can't recall the movie(or the actors) but it's a Western, and the scene, in the typical wild west saloon, has one guy at the bar when a really mangy looking guy steps up right next to him, orders a beer and when it comes, he proceeds to drink it in such a sloppy manner there's much of the beer rolling out the sides of the mug and down his face and dripping off his chin. The first guy(a "dandy" kind of guy) says, "My good man. If you're not careful you might get some of that in your mouth." And a huge fight begins. Sepiatone

When I first heard of this movie being remade, I feared an "updating" with all kind of clumsy looking "Stomp The Yard" breaking to Hip-Hop. If it's a verbatim redux of the original, I might take a bit of interest. Can't say now for sure. Sepiatone

Did good friends JIMMY STEWART and HENRY FONDA ever work together in anything else besides THE CHEYENNE SOCIAL CLUB? Sepiatone

I never saw Tracy's white Father role in the movie as one of being the "villain". Realize though, much of the focus on his character was that it was centered around HIS daughter, and taking place in HIS house! And some see wrong in the idea that HE should maintain some level of control? And remember, the idea was his character( an influential liberal newspaper editor) has to face up to his daughter, brought up with her parent's liberal sensitivities fed to her for most of her life, falling in love and willing to marry a black man, and how, when faced with her bringing his assumed beliefs "back home", he deals with it. Leaving the audience to wonder if he'll show open arms or that all his liberal "tolerance" position was a lot of lip service. Sepiatone And a huge WELCOME to ya, Shana!

Well, in that case you might well mention DICK YORK among that company, although emphysema got him before the cancer could. Not in THE CONQUEROR, but well..... Sepiatone

Roy Scheider and Gene Hackman And has William Powell and Irene Dunne teamed up on anything else besides LIFE WITH FATHER? I thought their chemistry was very good too. Sepiatone

As elsewhere I mentioned I haven't seen but maybe two movies made after 2013, so what movie was Boseman nominated for? I'll have to check InDemand to see if I can find both it AND THE FATHER to see what I might think. Sepiatone

Just looked at the clip on YT. Did the segment move that fast on the telecast? And what on Earth did all that preamble nonsense have to do with actors and other movie people who died last year? I don't recall any of them dying because of hate or racism or such. Or did I miss something in the news reports of their deaths? Sepiatone

I didn't watch because I've only seen two or three movies made after 2013. So..... Did the people and movie that deserved to win actually win? Or was it the "same old, same old"? Sepiatone

There's really nothing wrong with that scene when considering ..... It's a MOVIE(remember?). Fantasy and escapism. If looking for any "realism" in the flick you'd have to realize the whole "John Doe" promotion wouldn't have gotten off the ground in the first place. OUTSIDE of a movie, that is. Sepiatone

Wow. Here's another who doesn't seem to like endings that refers to the strength of "the people". I imagine the two of them didn't read, or wanted to bother reading Sandburg's "The People, Yes". But back to "Doe"--- In that scene near the end with Coop and Stanwyck on the top of that skyscraper, I kept yelling, "JUMP!" at my TV. But at the time the movie was made, people( yeah, those fools again! ) preferred endings with a lotta schmaltz. So they got it. And so, what's the beef? Seems that increasingly people on these boards are forgetting the golden rule of thumb when watching "classic" movies on TCM---- You shouldn't watch any movie made before the 2nd half of the 20th century with expectations based on 21st century sensibilities. Sepiatone

Actually, that's when I first saw and heard of Dom Delouise. And that was when that film came out. Loved him in that and ever since. Sepiatone

That thought also crossed my mind while later watching THE SEARCH. Sepiatone

Like KING KONG, the effects, for the times both were made, were outstanding. And too, for me "San Francisco" holds up in the FX category. Sepiatone