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3 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
The story is as much HIS transformation as HERS.
And I thank you for stating what I did, but with FAR more clarity and FAR less words!
I never saw Higgins as gay however, but can understand how some might conclude that.
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Which too, taken the OP's application of the word, a domicile can be both "homey" AND "homely".
depending on the decorator's taste(or lack thereof) .
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7 hours ago, Dargo said:
So, basically what you're saying here Swithin, is that we Americans somewhere along the line had found yet ANOTHER superfluous letter in the British spelling of a word.
(...but in THIS case that letter happens to be an "L' and not a "U")
But.....
That would mean you think the OP was talking about THIS guy!
I don't think so
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Wow. Talk about blinders!
Didn't recall when Higgins first ordered Eliza to fetch his slippers, she (as Higgins put it) "Shied" them at him and stormed out, eh? But realizing she had fallen in love with him, she returned, and a more docile but still mischievous Higgins, then asked, "Where the devil are my slippers?" After all, Higgins did realize his dislike of living without her, And too, realizing his reluctance to jeopardize her walking out again, would surely do what he could to make her happy, as she would for him which people in love are wont to do. Look at it these couple of ways...
In MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING, Michael Constantine, as the Father, keeps harping on the notion that he is "the head of the family". And later in the movie, his wife(Lainie Kazan) lets it be known...
"He may be the HEAD of the family, but I'm the NECK. And the neck can turn the head in any direction it wants!"
My wife would often joke about, "We share things, He gives me his money, and I give him a headache!"
But too, goes on, "But he's not stingy about it. He usually gives it back!"
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Well, a second try got better results. But initially, I couldn't "x" out of the e-mail request box.
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On 3/26/2021 at 3:51 AM, Vidor said:
Few things have made me literally laugh until I cried, but the outakes of this commercial were one of them.
https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/orson-welles-drunk-wine-commercial
Sorry, but a few seconds in a box took over my PC screen requesting the entry of my e-mail address I assume in order for someone to send me some more of the SPAM they were trying to pester people with. So I didn't get to read all the text or see any outtakes.
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I still have my still excellent looking VHS cassette of it, so go play with your streaming toys and dvr nonsense. I never have to wait for Passover or any other holiday if I wish to see it.
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1 hour ago, Det Jim McLeod said:
Rabbit Every Monday (1951) An often hilarious Bugs vs Yosemite Sam short. It begins with Bugs singing the Doris Day hit "it's Magic" to his carrots. Sam is hunting him and he sees someone in the audience walking out, he tells him to sit down or he'll get "his hide blowed off!"
The Dixie Fryar (1960) A funny Foghorn Leghorn cartoon. A father/son pair of hillbilly chicken hawks (the son is named Elvis) want to capture and roast a chicken and go after Foghorn. He says "Hey I'm a rooster, not a roaster!"
Notice the background music when Sam was floating around in the big bubblegum bubble? An instrumental of "I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles".
Oh, yeah, the ELVIS in the Foghorn 'toon kinda tickled me too.
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OK. So then why wasn't THE WIZARD OF OZ on the list?
With it's slight marginalization of those with the condition of dwarfism? left to roles of "freaks" of society, or adults with a pronounced child-like nature?
And so why is "hottentot" OK to use, but not "N***ER" or N E G R O? Sure, the former WAS generally used in reference to a certain tribe of Afrikaners, But Africans nonetheless, and not really meant in a good way anyhow. And the same could be asked of HIS GIRL FRIDAY....
With it's reference to the woman giving birth to a "pickaninny".
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18 hours ago, TikiSoo said:
The two ladies I pictured as "homely" seem to be from British/Irish decent. My personal ethnicity is Hungarian and my favorite reminder of my great grandmother is Russian Maria Ouspenskya.
Oh, LOFASZ! (Hungarian stepfather here.
) You mean to be "somewhat ethnic looking" is to look BRITISH? B-b-b-but......... My 8th grade homeroom teacher was British( according to him and his accent) but sorta resembled my Uncle John(who was Polish)! So I'm a bit confused.
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Too bad. "Picture Show" and LONESOME DOVE were the only novels of his I've read. But that's only so far.
Somebody left a copy of his "Lonesome Dove" at my work station back in '85. So I started reading it. The guy never came back for it, so I still have it. No sooner did I start thinking what a great movie the book would make, I heard a "mini series" was in the works!
Rest In Peace
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1 hour ago, TopBilled said:
His mother is a woman. So becoming his mother means becoming a woman.
It's a form of gender identification.
Again the problem for the trans community is that the character is also a murderer and his killings are triggered when he transitions into female.
Aiee!
I thought it was NORMAN had the killer instinct, but was so smothered by his Mother all his life he lacked the strength of will to carry out his craving. So he transformed into his Mother so that SHE, as she's done all his life, will do it for him. As far as Norman was concerned he didn't kill anybody. His Mother did. Even against his will.
It's more personality identification. Not gender. But as I've claimed all along in this topic;
People will see what they wish to, not necessarily what is.
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Heard the news on the evening report last night.
Sad news indeed. Could play sweet or psycho with equal aplomb. A true beauty and talent.
Rest In Peace
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22 hours ago, txfilmfan said:
Yes, I remember. It is one of my favorite films.
You know, it's not worth arguing about. I didn't call for a ban on any film or TV show, or say that the word should be banned forevermore. In these cases, it perhaps illuminates the character using the word.
I am, however, allowed to feel a slight twinge or "squirm" when I hear it being used, true? I didn't state anyone else had to share that feeling. I did say it's a juvenile jab, and I stand by that.
I would suggest that feeling a "twinge" or such when hearing a "juvenile" jab made about a fictional character by another fictional character with no actual offence intended towards the person portraying that fictional character in a fictional story indicates something more seriously, deeply rooted than simple empathy. But of course, in real life situations and depending on where I hear these things and from whom , TO whom, I might get a bit upset too.
On 3/25/2021 at 8:14 AM, TikiSoo said:In my household, the word "homely" means "plain" & possibly somewhat "ethnic" looking,
Since it can be said we ALL come from some ethnicity, this statement begs clarity.
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14 hours ago, Dargo said:
Yeah, not bad at all.
(...looked a bit like John Cassavetes in fact...and who ironically also died at too young an age)
I noticed that resemblance too.
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3 minutes ago, txfilmfan said:
Sorry. I've known people who were called that in elementary school and junior high, and it hurt them terribly. It's a juvenile jab, not worthy coming out of the mouth of an adult, either IRL or in a script.
I have no idea when that was, but in elementary school and Jr. High I and some others were called much worse. And by people who had no real room to talk!. And, you know what?
By the time we were all out of high school we were just fine. And too, did the epiphany experienced by MARTY in the movie escape you?
At the end of the movie, he too, refers to himself as a "dog"; "We dogs gotta stick together!" realizing there's a beauty in people that exists deeper than the skin and can bring more joy to life than mere physical attraction. Remember noticing that? Or were you too busy squirming?
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And too, The Firesign Theater uses a Lorre voice impersonation for the villain Rocky Rococo in their "The Further Adventures Of Nick Danger" radio drama parody.
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1 hour ago, txfilmfan said:
The script for Marty also used "dog" pejoratively, which makes me squirm a bit, as does the episode of TAGS the OP referenced above...
Cripes. Grow up!
The canine reference is an old one. And still in use in some quarters. And in the context of movies and TV shows, only used as one person's preferred expression, and not intended to offend anyone except a certain character in the movie or television episode, who are OK with it due to either a high level of professionalism, or a secure and healthy sense of self esteem.
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Oddly though, for my generation, Lorre was far more familiar to us. Most(if not all) "boomers" never heard of Greenstreet until later years when many(but still, not all) of us got into watching older, "classic" cinema. It kind of amused me that the street I grew up on (from age 12 to 18) was called "Green".
My first familiarity with Sydney was when I first saw THE MALTESE FALCON when I was 16. Lorre on the other hand, was often seen on Saturday TV matinees in those old MR. MOTO flicks, and therefore a more familiar face and name to us "kids" in the mid to late '50's.
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Excellent choice Darg. In some ways Tryon looked as if he could have been Gavin's brother. And VAUTRIN----
My use of "contemporary" meant the times we live in. Now. Currently. Got it?
Definition 1.a in the Merriam -Webster.
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38 minutes ago, Det Jim McLeod said:
I never saw this movie before but I had to rent it on demand to see what the fuss is about. It was profane, raucous and HILARIOUS!. I haven't laughed this much at a movie in years! I just found it to be a satire on the violent world of win-at-costs sports.
I wasn't offended by the remark by Paul Newman's character about the son, the kid wasn't even in the scene. I sometimes get offended by things in real life, not in 44 year old fictional movies. I am not bothered by the Abe Lincoln scene in Holiday Inn either.
As a fan of the sport of hockey since childhood( Go Wings!!) I quickly "got" the send-up of the violence in the sport and it's importance to possibly the survival of minor-junior league hockey. And the "macho" behavior of the players in those leagues. It's crystal clear the producers, writers and the director weren't shooting for the "high art" certain cinematic elitists in these boards diss it for. Just a good time romp for both the audience AND the cast. As for the ABE LINCOLN scene in "Holiday Inn"......
I recall what a black guy I worked with said about white actors in blackface in old movies .....
"It don't matter how much shoe polish some h o n k y smears on his face, he STILL won't ever truly be BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL!
And anyway," he went on...." Don't people be saying 'imitation is the sincerest form of flattery'? "
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Oh, so now it's official. (lemme 'splain)
I had wondered whatever became of him and resigned to the possibility of him already being dead when lo and behold, there he was, up on the big screen when I went to see LOOK WHO'S TALKING in '89!
Sorry to learn of this as he WAS one that I always enjoyed in movies.
Rest In Peace, Sir.
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8 minutes ago, Dargo said:
Yeah, maybe. It's just too bad he has nowhere near the resonance in his voice that Alex had.
Ken's voice a bit "tinny".
(...perhaps you haven't been around here long enough to know that I have a "thing" about voices)
Oh, yeah? Like the ones in your head perhaps?
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But.....
Aiee!
Call 'em. They're homely!
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Well, considering what we've done with the meaning of the word "gay" I don't see why "homely" should be left out of the fray.
Which too means possibly that a "homely gay man" can be an ugly homosexual, or a happy man that doesn't get out much, eh? 
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