Lori3
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Hi Randy D. Hi agree with you and support your thread in celebrating the birthday of Miss Lane.
There ar always some people who will attack or compare our favorites with other more iconic stars.
The reason we (the fans) like and admire certain actors is highly subjective.
I think that TCM must have admired and seen the talent in Priscilla Lane or why would they show a whole day's worth of her films.
So, again Happy Birthday Priscilla Lane.
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I agree with you EugeniaH. It would be just plain curiosity that would cause me to read Scotty's book. Yes, I also would be fearful that I would come across some information about some actor that I have always admired that would "shock me" and then that image of them doing "whatever" would "stick in my mind."
I think the problem with a lot of famous people is that so much adoration is giving to them that life then becomes one "big candy store" that is open 24/7 to them. The temptation is so great that many of them could not and can not resist it. They then start to believe they can do anything or have anyone they want. I am sure if there wasn't a person like this Scotty around these stars would still have had women and men offer them sexual favors, or "throw themselves" at them all the time.
In a similar type book that I read parts of online, the author was very frank and not very kind when she described the huh, "equipment" of certain very iconic stars. This I think is not a very nice thing to do. I know when a person becomes a "big" star or celebrity they really have to expect that they will lose some of their privacy, but there are some things that is really none of anyone"s business
It doesn't sound like this Scotty shares these kind of secrets in his book, but I am still going to pass. While I too realize that these past stars were not "saints" there still is always a little part of me that wants to keep them up on that pedestal. I can take and except certain faults and "warts" in my favorites, and that pedestal might shake a little when learn about such faults and that is ok. I just don't want that pedestal to come "crashing down" when I learn something a little to kinky for me to for my tastes about one of my favorites or some iconic star I have admired for years.
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Thank you REDHarlow for the information.
So his accident was purely related to speeding, no alcohol or anything else involved?
I do think I remember years ago reading that he was going pretty fast in his car, and I do remember some where seeing a picture of his car after the crash and it very obvious no one could survive such a crash.
What a shame and what a lose.
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Ok AndyM108. You don't like Humoresque and I do. No problem.
I didn't mean to offend you in anyway, and I apologize if I did.
We all have your different opinions and tastes and that is how it should be.
I just wanted to let you know that a lot of Crawford fans "love" Humoresque.
Garfield fans (at least the ones I know) like Humoresque, but not as much as some of his other roles.
Sorry
Lori3
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I agree. It sounds like Brando did give Dean good advice.
Was Dean's car crash and death an accident or did he do it on purpose?
Sorry, I know I could look up the above info on the internet but I don't have the time right now, and I figure someone here might know and quickly let me know.
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AndyM108, You say that Humoresque is a "piece of tripe." That is your opinion of course and that is fine. However, I disagree with you. I like Humoresque very much and I think that Crawford and Garfield play off each other very well (They didn't the same level of heat that Garfield and Turner had, but this film had a different plot love the music and I think the supporting cast were very good.
There are many Crawford fans who just love this film and say they cry at the end everytime.(I don;t.)
I have Comcast on Demand and Humoresque is one film I can get. Part of the description of the film states, "This beloved classic"
In an old interview on YouTube, Joan Crawford talks about Humoresque and says, She likes this film more than any other film she made, and that Johnny was one of the most dedicated young actors she has ever worked with."
It is not my favorite Garfield film, but it is probably in my top ten. I think he is very believable in the role, and Crawford while not a very likeable character does do a very good job as well. She does look very beautiful in her close ups.
I think Humoresque could be labeled a "chick flick."
This is just my opinion.
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Lori3
P.S. I can't remember when TCM last aired Humoresque and I have never see Body and Soul on TCM. (I obviously missed the airing years ago.) If I had my choice, I would pick Body and Soul over Humoresque though.
Edited by: Lori3 on Jun 12, 2012 2:18 AM
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I have to agree with you Randy_D. I thought that Priscilla Lane and Robert Cummings did a great job in this film.
Sometimes I think that some of our old classic stars and even our newer today stars can actually get over exposed too much of a good thing, if you know what I mean. It is nice to see what other (maybe less iconic) stars can do with a good script, director and great supporting case.
This is just my opinion of course, and both Joel and Barbara were very talented actors who both made numerous great movies.
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Sorry, I could n't help myself. I think some people will know why I will be watching a few of the films tomorrow celebrating Miss.Lane's birthday. She was a fine and lovely to actress for sure.
However, I be watching Four Daughters especially to see John Garfield "knock it out of the park" in his first film performance in the above film. He performance is so ground breaking in that film and his Mickey Borden character is so heartbreaking as well. He just doesn't belong to this nice, clean WASP type family or with their WASP type boyfriends and husbands.
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Lori3.
Happy Birthday Pricilla Lane.
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Thanks sewannie, your explanation makes a lot of sense. The reason I sort of complained about those B pictures is that I just don't want someone who is not familiar with John Garfield to tune and think "he was OK, due to those two films. I would rather have TCM air some of his more impressive roles!
The reason I didn't mention Body and Soul or Force of Evil is that I didn't think TCM had the rights to those films since they were made under Garfield's production company. I know that Olive Films will be releasing the above titles on July 31st on DVD and Blue ray on two separate discs.
I am aware that Four Daughters will be aired tomorrow, 09:30am my time, followed by Daughter's Courageous, thanks.
You see if it were me picking the films for John Garfield's Tribute, I would have included his first film Four Daughters (1938) and his last He Ran All The Way (1951). In both films he gives beautiful performances, and ironically he plays that "eternal outsider" alway looking in, wanting to belong, but his characters just can't figure out how to belong. (Heartbreaking in many ways.)
Any ways, I am very happy and thankful that TCM is doing this tribute to John Garfield and I am glad that they are including The John Garfield Story. It is very well done, and gives us insight into some of the good things he did for this country and for minorities in film. We are also given insight into some of tragic events that marked his life.
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Lori3
Edited by: Lori3 on Jun 11, 2012 2:53 PM
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I debated for a long time before I decided to post this, just because I didn’t want to be attacked and told I don’t know what I am talking about.
First of all I am thrilled that on September 19^th^ there will be a John Garfield Tribute, and the majority of the films of his they will be showing are very good. However, why in the world would “they” put in “Flowing Gold (1940) and East of the River (1940) in the mix? Two of his B pictures I have to admit. Well, I guess with Flowing Gold you also get to see Frances Farmer and Pat O’Brien, but East of the River is a real bomb. I mean Garfield does the best that he can with what he is given, but you can’t expect Chief Ramsey to make a gourmet meal with just some bologna and cheese can you?
I mean why didn’t the choose to put in these time slots, something like The Fallen Sparrow, Humoresque, Saturday’s Children, Destination Tokyo, Pride of the Marine or The Postman Always Rings Twice for goodness sake? (And that is just to name a few.)
Now I am not sure how films are selected to be aired on TCM. I mean does TCM have some huge vault filled with films and someone just goes in there and picks out films made by a certain actor? Or, does TCM have to deal with some kind of distributor and they get the films to air from some other company? I really don’t know, so if someone does please clue me in.
It is just that Mr. Garfield made many more superior films and gave much more impressive performance than in those two “B” pictures TCM has chosen to show.
Oh well, I am happy with the rest of the selection, I just wish they would of put Four Daughters in the mix too. It was his first film, and his performance is so ground breaking in it, plus we can see our first film “rebel” in his performance.
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Lori3
Edited by: Lori3 on Jun 11, 2012 3:09 AM
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You see Bilgewasser I didn't know that Tony Perkins was gay! Not that it matters, at all to me I could care less. I do however really don't want to read about how one of the iconic stars that I have admired for years, liked to dress up like Snow White and be spanked.
On amazon some to the books have the "look inside" feature to them. Oh rainy day I "looked inside" one of those older tell all books. Oh boy, some of the stories this person tells about some of our most iconic stars are really a little beyond kinky! (Thank God my favorite wasn't in the "kinky" section.)
I actually had to stop reading it because I thought the next time I see so and so in a movie I am going to picture him doing some weird stuff.
I think while we all know that the Hollywood stars are human, we still kind of want to wash over some of their faults. I am sure many will think that I am living in a make believe world, but I really don't want to know that one of my favorites liked to kill kittens every full moon. I can except certain faults, but other weird things no thank you, I would rather just not know.
So MovieProfessor, you know I admire you and your wealth of information, and I so appreciate all that you have shared with me, but I don't think I will be buying the "Full Service" book.
Oh and clore I love what you wrote: "To me, that's like those who testified before HUAC and named others and then justified it by saying "I only gave them names they already had." Nah, cough up the truth - you did it because if you didn't, you wouldn't get to sign the contract for your next job. Personal gain, that's all."
So true. That's why I admire my favorite so much. He refused to name names and in doing so he saw his film career taken right out of his hands. What he learned on streets of NY as a kid stayed with him, "You don't rat on your friends" period! He couldn't hurt others, but he could hurt himself and he did. I admire his bravery so much. I am just not sure he knew he was going to lose more than his film career.
Lori3
Edited by: Lori3 on Jun 11, 2012 1:39 AM
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What saves this version of a Star is Born is when Judy sings! I mean, please "The Man that Got Away" the whole "Swanee" production number, and "Turn Your Frown Upside" I think gives us a glimpse of what it might have been like to see her in concert. I also think her acting is first rate in the film.
I simply love Judy Garland! She was one of the greatest entertainers the world has ever seen. (At least that is my opinion.)
And when I get to Heaven she is going to sing just for me.
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ginnyfan, that is a sweet story you shared about Ginny and Judy Garland. I am sure Judy didn't mean to make Ginny nervous, but I do understand Ginny's feelings.
I agree with TopBilled, you should start a blog in Ginny's honor.
Also I read your other post, on the September Schedule thread. You watch Garfield and I will watch Ginny's film. I am sure I am never seen the film you mentioned.
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Well thank you calvinme for posting the September schedule. People on these message boards must know I will be happy when September comes.
Wednesday September 19th JOHN GARFIELD TRIBUTE. Yes! All day long. Not sure why TCM picked September 19th for the date to do a tribute to John Garfield, but I will take it, and be grateful for it!
I have to purchase a DVD recorders before then.
Tom, hope you read this TCM with be airing The Breaking Point on the above date. Garfield made only two more films after The Breaking Point, but he is so good in this film it is remarkable. One of my favorites, ever since Tom introduced me to it through these message boards
Thank you TCM.
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MarlonFan, I would encourage you to not only re-read Brando's autobiography but seek out other books that have been written about him e.g. through amazon or your local library. I mean if John Garfield has had 4 books written about his life, Marlon Brando must have around 40 written about his.
Another thing is seek out some "fan club" Brando has that is active on the web. It is very nice to share things with other fans who also admire and love your favorite.
Facebook is another place to look for other fans of Brando. We the fans of Garfield are really blessed because Garfield's daughter has a facebook page and she is very kind and understanding of us the fans of her father. She routinely shares with us, little known facts and pictures of her father and even occasionally visits our fan club site and comments how much she appreciates the kind things she write about her father.
Next year we are all planning to meet in New York and visit John Garfield's final resting place together. I live in Oregon but I am going and I am dragging my husband with me. We will also see the sites of New York. If my husband doesn't want to go with us to the grave site, I will send he off to golf with a couple of the other fan's husbands.
Sorry to get off topic again but I just thought I would share some things that MarlonFan can do to become a "passionate" admirer and fan like I am with John Garfield.
Lori3
P.S. We need more passionate people in this world and on these message boards. How else are we going to drive people crazy with our "posts" about our favorites.
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Happy Birthday Judy! I have loved you since I first saw you in "The Wizard of Oz" when I was a little girl.
What unbelievable talent you had, God given for sure.
Rest in Peace Always Judy. You are so loved.
Lori
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Bilegewasser. It is funny that you mention Truman Capote. Years ago I was a big time Monty Python fan. (I still love their brand of humor.) Michael Palin was my favorite.
I wrote him a short letter telling him how funny I thought he was, etc and I requested an autograph picture. I ended my letter with writing, "I have never done this type of thing before, well there was that time I wrote and requested a picture from Truman Capote.
I got a picture back from him, and he wrote on the outside frame of the picture. "To Lori thanks for the nice comments, on the bottom he wrote Truman Capote, then crossed that out and signed his name, Michael Palin. I thought it was very sweet and funny of him to do that.
kriegerg69, sorry about me repeating my Gene Kelly story in two different threads. I guess my memory is going, but I will never forget the night I met Mr.Kelly.
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RowanMartin68. I am glad you like that line from MST3K. Those guys to me are hysterical!
My husband doesn't appreciate them so much, and says I have the sense of humor of a 10 or 12 year old boy!
What? Hey I don't care, they make me laugh and it always good to have laugh or two every day.
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What about Robert Blake? I know he has had some problems as an adult in his later years, but he was a very good child actor. In my opinion at least. Plus he really was a cute little boy.
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You already know about my Gene Kelly meeting, on the "If you could shake hands with an actor" thread.
Many, many years ago I had many gentlemen callers. Just kidding.
Many years ago before I married a date took me to a restaurant in Beverly Hills CA. Just a few tables away from us was sitting Jack Lemmon. I kept glancing at him off and on during our meal.
When it was time to leave we passed by his table, (he had finished his meal and was talking to a couple men) and I stopped and said, "Mr.Lemmon may I have your autograph?" He said, "Finally you came over here, I have been waiting for you to stop by." He was so sweet and charming and signed his autograph for me. I think I said, "You are a great actor."
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Again from the MST3K GANG. Movie: Attack of the Moon Beast.
A guy takes a girl to his home for the first time. After some small talk he says:
"I would like you to meet a little friend of mine."
Crow for the girl says: "Huh, could you at least kiss me first."
The guy is really talking about his pet lizard!
Lori
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Ok MarlonFan, the reason I got to shake hands with Gene Kelly is while everyone was in the theater and after he had did his talk I saw him get up and leave to go into the lobby. I sure he did that because otherwise he would have been surrounded by about 200 or so people. When I saw him leave I got up and went down the other aisle to see if I could stop him for just one minute and shake his hand.
The thing is that I had been communicating with him through a few letters prior to this. I had written him and asked for autograph picture and he sweetly sent me one with a lovely message. Then when his house almost burned down one year during Christmas, I sent him a note saying how sorry I was that this happened. Every year after that I got a Christmas card from Gene Kelly until his death.
When I meet him in the lobby I put out my right hand and said, "Mr.Kelly, I am Lori so,and so." He took my right hand in his right hand then place his left hand on top and said, "How nice to finally meet you Lori." All I could say is "I think you are wonderful." He said thank you and left with a beautiful blonde on his arm.
When I finally saw my friends I had came with one of my friends said, "Lori I saw the determination in your face when you got up to follow him, and the Devil himself I sure couldn't have stopped you."
I when never forget that night, and how kind Gene Kelly was to one of his fans. He was older of course when I met him, but still a nice looking man, and the blonde with him was beautiful.
MP stand for the MovieProfessor.
Welcome Marlon fan, you read and study up on your favorite Marlon Brando (who was a great actor) and you can tell us a thing or two about him that I sure a lot of us don't know. OK?
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Lori3
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Wow MarlonFan what ever gave you the idea I was a "big wig" in motion picture industry? Are you sure you don't have me mixed up with someone else on these message boards?
No MarlonFan, I am just a fan of classic movies and the classic actors that starred in the old great movies. I have my favorites of course, and I have been a fan of the old classic movies most of my life.
On my favorites I do read and study up on them.
No "big wig" at all, I am simply a nurse, nothing more.(Well, I am also a wife, mother etc.)
I am pretty sure you have me mixed up with someone who has the initials MP.
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Well first of all I would want to do more than shake the hand of the following. I would want to shake their hand, give them a little kiss and hug and say thank you.
*Judy Garland:* I would want to thank Judy for sharing her amazing talents with the world, and I would tell her she deserved the Oscar for "A Star is Born."
*Lawrence Olivier:* I would want to thank Sir Olivier for introducing me to the beauty of Shakespeare. It was only through watching his Shakespearian films did I come to appreciate and further explore the plays and sonnets of the Bard.
*Gene Kelly:* I did already shake Mr.Kelly's hand at a tribute for Judy Garland years ago in California. He was very kind and sweet. However, I was so tongue tied all I could say was, "I think you are wonderful." I would like a do over.
*Steve Irwin:* I know he is not really an actor, (He did do one film). I would want to thank him for his pure passion and love for all the animals on this earth, even the not so cute or pretty ones. I would let him know it was because of him that I volunteer at my local zoo.
And lastly, but by no means least, I would want to thank *John Garfield* for leaving us such an array of beautiful, passionate and believable performances on film for us to enjoy and marvel at. I would also say how I admired his bravery and loyalty to his friends when he refused to name names during that horrible HUAC witchhunting time. He stood strong, while others gave in. With Mr.Garfield I would want to give an extra tight hug and extra sweet kiss.
They really are many other actors and actress I would be honored to shake their hands, I just don't have to time right now to list them. The ones I listed are the "top ones" in my book.
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Lori3
Have you ever personally met a big actor/actress?
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Hi TomJH. While I can understand how Mr.Grant might have felt, famous people have to know that being approached and asked for there autograph goes with their fame.
It would be so sad (to me at least) if I approached a favorite star for an autograph or just to let them know how much I admired their talent and then have them be "nasty or mean" like someone earlier described how Kirk Douglas behaved once.
I was happy to read that my favorite always gave his autograph when asked. Even when he was in a hurry he would say, "Ok, turn around" and then use the person's back as a board to sign his name on a piece of paper.
One of my daughters use to work for a Star Bucks near Beverly Hills. She told me that quite a few "stars" came in to get their coffee. She said that Sarah Jessica Parker was always very nice but Gillian Anderson one of the stars of The X-Files was a real, well it rhymes with witch.
I think also some famous people want to be recognized and complimented on their talent.
Years ago when I was a floor nurse I took care of the mother of James Cameron. This was during the time he was married to Linda Hamilton. I never was on duty when he came in to visit his mother, but I frequently saw Linda when she came to visit her mother in-law with her baby. I commented on how cute her baby was and she beamed like all proud mommies, but I never said anything to her.
Later in the afternoon after Linda left I commented to my patient that I didn't realize that her daughter in-law was Linda Hamilton and I thought was a very good actress. I said, I just didn't say anything to her because I didn't think it was appropriate with you being in the hospital. She said, "Oh you should of said something to her, she loves it when people recognize her and ask her for her autograph.
You never know what some people what.
Lori3