Lori3
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Thank you TomJH. You always seem to be able to explain "things" in such a beautiful way.
Well said indeed!
Lori
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Huh kriegerg69. Never mind who the actor was, sorry. The other thing is I don;t think I was overly sensitive regarding my experience. I mean just imagine your looking at some pictures, thinking "Oh that is a nice one," "I like that one," "Never seen that one before", and then all of a sudden "What the hell?"
My husband was dozing off next to me on the couch, so it wasn't like I screamed so loud I woke him up out of a sound sleep. I just disturbed him a little and he went right back to sleep. I also didn't really almost fall off the couch. I was just using a little dramatic license if you know what I mean.
I did however turn off the website immediately. Sorry ,it is not like seeing that picture scarred me for life, it is just that I did want to see that picture.
I think a lot of us like to remember our favorite actors as they were in the films we loved them in, not dead lying in their coffins. Films and the stars we love are to many of us an escape from this "sick world." And if that escape is only for a few hours, we love that pretend world they take us too. Reality at times is hard enough without see a legendary star dead. Also, it is not that I can't take it. I have seen a lot worse during my life, it just that if given the choice I choose to pass on such photos.
OK?
Thanks
Lori
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Kriegerg69, I guess we all have different tastes and interests. I still feel for the loved ones of those poor celebrities. Can you image innocently searching for a picture of your now departed famous father or mother and coming across an autopsy photo! That to me is just cruel! The problem is it can happen even when you are not looking for such a photo, like it did with Tom.
I personally don't get the pictures people take of there loved one in their coffin. I don't want to remember my loved one that way. I want to remember them through films and pictures when they were alive, healthy, happy and with the spark of light in their eyes. It was very hard for me to see mother and my best friend in their coffins.
One night when I couldn't sleep I got out my laptop and innocently started searching for pictures of my favorite actor. All of sudden I was looking at a picture of him in his coffin. It didn't have a full facial shot,(Thank you God) but you could tell it was him. It caught me so off guard I actually screamed out NO, woke up my husband and damn near fell off the couch. I immediately closed out the website.
Tom, I am starting to get paranoid and stressing out. Please tell me the picture you saw that started this tread was not of my favorite actor? Please!
Lori
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So well said TomJH. Those type of pictures are disgusting. I often think how would the people who publish and / or take such pictures would feel if one of their loved one had a similar picture taken and displayed on the internet? However, it probably is that such people don't have a moral compass and really don't care.
While I believe that our bodies are only our temporary "houses" in which our real self live, (granted some may have better constructed houses than others) we the loved ones, friends and "fans" connect to the outer shell or "house" of that person. This is perfectly natural as we need that "image" to remember the person after they depart this world. When that image is distorted and disrespected with graphic inhuman like pictures it is so wrong.
I remember when I first saw the movie JFK, and there on the screen were autopsy pictures of our fallen President. Even being a nurse I was disgusted and nauseated with the scene, and thought I don't want to see this!
Thank you for not mentioning the name of actor whose dignity was not respected at all, and who obviously was helpless to stop such a horrible thing for happening. I don't want to remember any of our classic actors that way!
Lori
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TomJH have told you I love you! Thank you my friend, I appreciate all your support and understanding.
I don't mind one bit you posting the link to my petition for that long awaited box-set of John Garfield's films to appear.
My petition is kind of at a "stand still" right now, although I have had a few "big" names sign it, and people as far as Germany and England have added their names.
Oddly more men have signed than women. Well it might not be that odd since John Garfield was one of those rare stars who both women and men loved equally. (Men in a brotherly way.)
At the Hollywood Canteen during it's hey day, I read every night the soldiers would yell, "We want Johnny, we want Johnny." He would sweetly step up on the stage and tell a few jokes. The troops of WWII loved him.
People today are not aware of how much good he did, and how generous a man he was.
Lastly, according to my unofficial poll, The Breaking Point is the second most requested film that people want included in his box-set. It was second only to The Postman Always Rings Twice.
I voted for it and so did his daughter.
Thanks again Tom
Lori
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Thank you Drago2. No my husband has never "beat" on me nor will he ever. He knows if he did I would call his father who would "drop a dime" on him, and I would take the cat and leave, period. (Both our daughters are married and out of the house.)
My husband is a bad hombre in that he doesn't take sh_t from anyone, and he will defend his family friends and country with his life.
He knows of my Garfield "thing" and is OK with it. He doesn't understand it, but he is OK with it.
Sorry if I came off like a (you know what).
Oh, and I agree with your last sentence completely. (Shocking I know.)
Lori
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Huh Dargo2. I have always "gone" for the "bad boy" type. You should meet my husband, he is a real bad hombre!
There are plenty of people in the fan club I belong to that have been passionate fans of Garfield's for over 40 years, so believe it or not I am not alone.
What about the others on this site that are passionate about their favorite actor or actress?
Thanks for singling me out, makes me feel special.
You see Drago2, it's fun to be an infatuated psychotic.
Thanks for understanding.
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Hi ginnyfan. Being a nurse and having worked on a cardiac floor, I know for a fact that people (espesically men, sorry) go into denial when confronted with serious issues e.g. chest pain, tightness of the chest etc. It could have been denial or maybe he was just "done" with all the mess and ready to go "home."
Lori
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His funeral broke the records previously set by Valentino.
A hour before his funeral was to begin, his widow was visited by two New York city police officers who asked her to please hold an open casket service for the public. She didn't want to at first, but when one of the officers said if she didn't they feared there might be a riot and sensing the panic in his voice she agreed.
Public mourners passed by the casket to say goodbye to a guy they felt they knew.This lasted up to near midnight.
In the back of chapel sat the deceased step-mother weeping quietly. For the last ten years since his fathers death he had been sending her a monthly check for $85.00. The day of his funeral she received his last check. Now it was for $50.00 with note stating he was sorry but he was no longer working steadily.
The numbers at not real clear but it is estimated that anywhere from 7,000 to 10,000 regular New Yorkers paid their final respects to this "regular" guy that a great talent lived in.
This all happened 60 years ago on May 23, 1952 at the funeral for John Garfield.
HUAC, the blacklisting, and the Hollywood community had did their thing, but it was the public who spoke the loudest on that day.
Forgive me again. There is just something inside of me, and I can't really figure it out, but I can't let John Garfield's memory die and I will do all I can to help give his memory the "star recognition" I and many others believe he deserves.
Lori
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Huh Sepiatone, I have to agree with your wife, at least as far as my husband goes. He loves those action hero type movies that are so popular now. You know the kind I mean. They have minimal dialogue, with maximal explosions, car cases, and flying people with super powers. No thinking is required to watch or enjoy these types of movies. (Although there are only few I enjoy,)
My husband has no interest or use for old classic movies, UNLESS it is an old WWII classic movie. He really loves those, and I use to call them "my babysitter for him."
With those old WWII films he will sit completely still, looking at the TV screen, with his mouth half open. It really is kind of cute and when I want him "out of my hair" for a few hours I always pray that TCM has one of those old WWII films on.
I enjoy watching those old WWII movies as well, but to the extent that my husband does. Maybe the OP considers old WWII films, "Men's Movies." The rarely if ever have a "dame" present in them.
Lori3
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TCMfan23. Yes, I admit Lana Turner in her day was "hot" and her role in TPART makes one believe some poor drifter like Garfield's character would agree to kill for her.
Turner and Garfield had a great on-screen sexual chemistry.
One critic wrote, "You can tell by just looking at Garfield's face what he wanted to do, and you could tell by looking at the way Turner looked at him she won't mind one bit."
No graphic sexual scenes were needed There was just great acting with minimal dialogue to show the lust and sexual longings of the two characters. (Maybe it wasn't acting after all, who knows?)
Lori
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Huh, EngeniaH. From all my reading and research of John Garfield I think that he and Miss Turner were a little more than "just friends" during the filming of The Postman Always Rings Twice. I did read also that after the film was finished they remained friends.
In in 1973 interview Lana Turner said that The Postman Always Rings Twice was her favorite of all the films she had ever made. She also said, she loved working with Garfield, that he was shy, intelligent and he "keep a girl on her toes."
Garfield and Turner had a great and "hot" screen chemistry together. And The Postman Always Rings Twice was the film that introduced me to the beautiful acting art that was John Garfield!
Thanks
Lori
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We will never forget you Mr.Garfield. How can we forget you, when you left such an array of beautiful, powerful, poignant and believable performances on the silver screen for us to enjoy and marvel at? We never forget your bravery too, for while many “gave in” you did not. You stayed true to your friends and to yourself. A remarkable God given talent lived in you and we are so thankful you shared your genius with this world.To us your fans, you are "Our Beloved Star."
Sorry, I had to do this since 60 years ago today, John Garfield left this world. A victim of a heart attack or broken heart, we will never know.
"Say not in grief 'he is no more' but live in thankfulness that he was"- Hebrew proverb
Lori
Edited by: Lori3 on May 21, 2012 3:23 PM
Edited by: Lori3 on May 21, 2012 3:25 PM
Edited by: Lori3 on May 21, 2012 3:29 PM
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John Garfield in "He Ran All The Way!" He gave a beautiful performance in his last film.
The final curtain came down on John Garfield 60 years ago on May 21, 1952, dead from a massive heart attack at the age 39. Many contribute his ultimately death due in part to the extreme stress he was under thanks to the HUAC witchhunters and the blacklisting. His phones were tapped and he was followed by the FBI. Horrible time in our history, and so shameful what was done to this man.
His name was cleared of any Communist activity a month after his death.
Rest in Peace Mr.Garfield, to me you were simply the best!
Lori
Edited by: Lori3 on May 21, 2012 2:26 AM
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Oh, I agree with you regarding Gary Oldman! He is a remarkable actor for sure.
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Hello Lazyking. I agree with your analysis on what makes a great actor completely!
Screen presence is so important. In a way the camera must love them, and the audience should always be drawn to their character in the film.
Also they must have the ability to not only express their character's emotions through the spoken word, but also through their use of their eyes, facial expressions, and body language.
And yes, the actor must listen and respond appropriately to the other actors in such a way as not to appear to be trying to "steal" the scene.
Lastly, the actor must make his or her character believable or it just won't work.
Many of our past and present actors have these qualities, in fact far too many to mention.
I will however state that my favorite actors John Garfield had these qualities and then some, and that to me at least is what made him such a great and powerful actor.
Thanks.
Very interesting topic.
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I am just wondering what people thought of the program on "AFI Master-The Art?"
Did anyone watch it?
What did you think of Wahlberg and Russell discussions, etc.
I am biting my tongue or really holding back my fingers from typing my comments.
And please don't tell me this "spamming."
If it is I am sorry.
Thanks
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From the film "Four Daughters" 1938
"http://www.youtube.com/embed/-3wxT1fFUFY"
This is John Garfield's film debut, and here you can witness a "star being born."
Once John Garfield's character "Mickey Borden" enters into the film, you can't take your eyes off him. He steals the movie, and shocks to audience with his beautiful portrayal of the lost and bitter young musician.
The eternal outsider always looking in.
The first film rebel was born! He paved the way for all the other "film" rebels.
Edited by: Lori3 on May 8, 2012 1:29 AM
Edited by: Lori3 on May 8, 2012 1:40 AM
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Swell!
Thanks countessdelave, and thank you TopBilled for the info too.
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What month does SUTS start,and how long does it last?
I didn't look at all the posts, I only saw the schedule for August.
Thank you
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I have been a nurse for many years now, and it is a very rewarding and also a very hard profession both physically and emotionally.
I can't think of any other films that portray nurses in positive "light" than those already mentioned.
For years especially on TV nurse were portrayed has "over-****" females who just stand around and talk or are "flirting" with the doctors.
The truth is that nurses are the ones who are with the patients for 8-12 hours straight. It is very important to have good doctor of course, but you better pray you have a good nurse too. He or she can save your life.
I have been a cardiac nurse, pediatric nurse, worked in Infection Control, and now I teach nursing students.
Infection Control really was my favorite position. So I will tell you that one of the most important things you can do as a patient is ask your healthcare worker before they touch you, "Excuse me, but have you washed your hands?" That is your right as a patient. Maybe you all are already of this, but "Handwashing is the single most important thing to prevent infections."
In my day, I have seen too many patient's acquire an infection in the hospital that they did not come in with. Some of the patients even died because of the infection.
HAPPY NURSES WEEK! And remember it is important that you wash your hands frequently as well.
Sorry, I am done teaching for now.
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I love "The Fallen Sparrow!" It is one of my all time favorite Garfield films.
It has everything! It's has "dames" three of them, at has the villain Walter Slezak, it has that film noir quality to it, great sets, great supporting cast, great direction and a "stand-out" performance by John Garfield! It to me a quintessential 1940's film, right down to those "poor dead animals" women used to carry around with them in the 40's.
Garfield made this as a loan out to RKO, and I guess when Jack Warner saw it he realized Garfield indeed needed and deserved better roles.
I have a couple of times listed it in the "Suggest A Movie" section, but so far no luck.
It is a forgotten "gem" of a movie, much like John Garfield himself.
Edited by: Lori3 on May 7, 2012 1:45 AM
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I just read on a Film Noir website I belong to that some company by the name of Olive Films will be releasing on DVD / Blue Ray two of John Garfield's greatest films.
Force of Evil and Body & Soul both are due to be released July 31, 2012.
This is very exciting news for me and I hope for other Garfield fans.
This good news will not however excuse WB from not putting together that long over due John Garfield box-set! So, if you still haven't added your name to my petition, please take one minute and add your name.
Here is the link to my petition. I need names,please.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/778/073/466/give-star-recognition-back-to-a-legendary-star/
Any ways, can somebody please give me an AMEN, and take me to church!
Again, great news for not only Garfield fans, but "film noir" fans as well.
Christmas will come really earlier for me this year!
(If my husband is a good guy)Thanks,
Lori
Edited by: Lori3 on May 5, 2012 5:05 PM
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"One and one is two, two and two is four, and five will get you ten if you work it righ!."
Mae West, from "My Little Chickadee."
Edited by: Lori3 on May 4, 2012 11:49 PM
(If my husband is a good guy)
Tasteless, Tasteless, Tasteless!
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Sepiatone wrote: I DO have a problem with the excuse, "I want to remember him/her as they WERE." HOGWASH. I usually hear this crap from people who lacked the sensitivity to visit with these people when they were sick and/or dying, or refuse to go to their funeral. As if the funeral was about THEM rather than the deceased. I helped care for my cancer riddled Mother and saw her at her worst. Yet, whenever she's mentioned, my first mental image IS of how she looked when she was well or in her prime. I HATE that selfish and sh*twitted excuse!
I am not sure why certain people are getting upset with me regarding my post, but when you make the above statement I have to reply to you. I have been a nurse for over 25 years now and I have seen and been with plenty of people when they died. I have seen babies, children, young people and old people die. I never left their bedside or ran out of the room crying. I have helped prepare the bodies of my patients so their loved ones could see them in a dignified way, not with tubes and medical devices attached to every part of their body. I have handed mothers their still-born babies so they could see them and say goodbye, and stayed close to little ones as they lost their battle with cancer. So please don't paint me with the board brush of being one who lacks the sensitivity of visiting with or being with a dying person. I am a good nurse, and I have cried with family members, patients, other nurses and doctors as well when we tried with everything we had to save a life. I never ever left any patient when they needed me, even it was as "hard as hell" to stay.
I have been to plenty of funerals in my life. And in the case of my mother and my best friend, well they died within 3 months of each other. My mother died in her sleep and my best friend after only 2 days of being admitted to the hospital. In both cases I stepped up and looked at them both in their coffins and both times I broken down in tears. I knew they were both gone, but seeing them laid out like that was such too much. Sorry!
In the case of the actor's who's funeral photo I accidently came across, like I said it didn't scar me for life! I knew he was dead of course, but as I was innocently looking at a slide show of pictures of him in his prime, of photos of his famous films when without warning up pops this funeral photo. I wasn't looking for that photo, it startled me, I wasn't interested in looking at it. I simply said out loud No (not on purpose it just came out of my mouth) stopped the slide show, got off the site and went to bed. I did not have a "bleeding nervous breakdown."
I am well aware of the tradition of people taking pictures of the deceased. And if that works for them fine with me. I just don't care for such photos, it is a personal preference, period.
I do want to remember and do remember my loved ones and favorite actor(s) as they were, alive healthy, happy and with that light of life in their eyes.
OK?
I am sorry you lost your mother to cancer. I wish the disease of cancer would just die off.
Lori