Dargo2

Okay NOW I see how Swayze(John Cameron that is) got mentioned in this thing! LOL I hadn't seen Miles' picture down there until just NOW!!! (...hey Miles ol' boy...yeah, it might be a good idea to wait your turn from now on...though I DO have to admit this whole mess o' confusion here HAS been a whole lot o' fun!!!..at least for ME anyway!!!)

You got him, Miles! Well done! Yep, that's Robert Clarke...the star of The Hideous Sun Demon and other assorted and sundry Grade-Z '50s Sci-Fi/Monster flicks...AND a regular on the old '60s TV variety show "The King Family Show". (...'cause he was married to one of the King sisters)

Psst...hey lavender...now that you've read my earlier comment here that the Timex guy was actually John CAMERON Swayze, ya know, it ain't to late to re-edit this post of yours here and change that "Patrick" thing to "Cameron"!!! LOL (edit to follow) Good girl. I see you've now corrected it. Well done, young lady!!!. (...that's okay, I understand...ya see it IS fairly common knowledge that John CAMERON Swayze COULD BE quite the 'dirty dancer" TOO, and so I fully understand your confusion here!) Edited by: Dargo2 on May 29, 2013 9:30 PM

Nope, sorry Twinkeee. It isn't John Swayze, either. (...THOUGH this guy DID often "take a lickin' and keep on tickin'" TOO in a few movies...you WERE speakin' of "John CAMERON Swayze" here, RIGHT?!...well, that's still wrong...sorry)

Nope, sorry Slayton. This dude was a Yank, not a Brit. (OOPS! edit to follow...) I just Wiki'd Mr. McGoohan and it appears he was actually born in the U.S., but was raised in Ireland and Britain...BUT, that being said, nope, the guy presently in question here is still not "Secret Agent Man"...though I WOULD be more than happy to do my rendition of that Johnny Rivers song for ya if you'd like!!! Edited by: Dargo2 on May 29, 2013 9:08 PM

Yeah, maybe Lavender, but evidently dear ol' Durward had little sense o' humor when it came to what Dothery mentioned here about Jay Ward's fracturing his name and using it as a pun on his cartoon show starring the Moose and Squirrel from Frostbite Falls Minnesota! (excerpted from Wikipedia's Durward Kirby bio page) Kirby's name was spoofed in the animated series The Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, where a man's hat (size 7-5/32) was called the "Kirward Derby". It supposedly had magic powers that made its wearer the smartest person in the world. Kirby considered suing, but his business manager pointed out that it would only bring more attention to the show. (Jay Ward, producer of The Bullwinkle Show, offered to pay Kirby to sue him.)

Have you posted THIS guy yet, slayton?

And Tom, don't forget Burt's Oscar winning portrayal of Elmer Gantry here. However, once mentioning this, let us not forget that the title character WAS supposed to be the ultimate ham, and thus while Burt solidly and believably plays that aspect of this flamboyant character, he also tones it down just right in the more intimate scenes. (...and so maybe this is why you didn't mention this role of Lancaster's here, eh?!)

>Well part of the standard Western formula is to have the audience hate the bad guy so the hero can even the score in the end. Unforgiven does that in spades. When I see the movie on TV I tend to skip the Little Bill parts (just too brutal for my taste), but I will make sure I'm there for the final killings (yea, revenge is sweet in a western!). Ya see James, THIS right here is why I think Unforgiven is a standout and original Western...the exact opposite what you've just stated here. First, Eastwood's Will Munny is anything BUT a "hero" or even a very "admirable" protagonist in this film. And, even given the brutality which Hackman's Little Bill exhibits in this story, there IS something about his character which someone can find "admirable"...such as his belief that a revenge seeking vigilante such as Munny has no place in the soon-to-become modern West. In other words and bringing this back to my earlier point that this film and how it so effectively shows all the major characters' good and bad aspects of their personalities and doesn't fall back into the old "White 10 gallon hatted good guy vs the black 10 gallon hatted bad guy" cliche, is what elevates this Western to the top or near top of all Westerns ever made.

>Dargo- I am impressed! Did you attend Peck's funeral, or just recall the details in reports later? LOL Yep, the latter, Char. Greg and I didn't run in the same circles all that time I resided in SoCal. And nope, I don't recall ever having the pleasure of boarding the gentleman on any flights out of LAX, either. I suppose I should have said somethin' down there in this such as: "But of course, after Alex revealed the correct "answer", I did recall hearing or reading somewhere about Mr. Peters giving the eulogy at Peck's funeral."

Yep, that's why I said "sometimes". There are indeed some roles of his that I feel he perfectly plays and that he doesn't overact or present too intensely for how I feel the character would respond in a scene. (...and has been said many times by many people, it's just a shame that Mr.Dean died so young at that crossroads of CA Hwy-46 and 41 in that beautiful little 550 Spyder of his, 'cause now nobody will ever know how better and more refined an actor he could have become)

I have to admit I would've written down: "Who was Ossie Davis?", if I were one of the contestants. But of course, after Alex revealed the correct "answer", I did recall Mr. Peters giving the eulogy at Peck's funeral. (...but then again it wouldn't have made any difference in the final score if I had been playin', 'cause I would have been SO ahead of the other two contestants by Final Jeopardy that I wouldn't have needed to bet one single dollar during that part of the show, 'cause it would've been a runaway!!!!) LOL

Wow, and here I would've sworn that the lady was Helen O'Connell ! (...hey, maybe I have a new posting for that "Lookalike" thread here, eh Lavender?!)

>James Dean always managed to throw some slices of ham onto each of his peformances, I think. Well Dark, if you're gonna mention THAT fairly early adherent to Strasberg's school of thought about the art of acting, then what say we ALSO mention here the guy who's name FIRST comes to mind whenever that acting style is mentioned...yep, one Mr. Marlon Brando. (...'cause I'm tellin' ya here, while SOME folks, no, make that a LOT o' folks think he's the end-all AND be-all of acting, THAT dude could REALLY chew the ol' scenery sometimes, ya know!!!)

Well, here's ya two possible explanations for the lack of a response around here about that L.A. Times article you mentioned, James: 1- Almost all the regulars around these here parts already know what kinda heated arguments responding to it would have invariably ensued. ...OR... 2- Jake just hasn't seen your post yet!!!! (...and my money's on No.2!!!) LOL

Wow James, I gotta say Gene Hackman's Little Bill is my favorite of all of 'em in Unforgiven, and here's the reason why. He's portrayed as the most intelligent and knowing character in the movie but has the fatal flaw of being too egocentric and yes, as you noted, much too brutal. Yep, I thought the way Hackman fleshed out this complicated character was magnificent, and evidently so did his fellow members of the Academy, 'cause you may recall that he took home the Best Supporting Actor Oscar for it. (...of course then again I must admit here that I might be biased, as in my view Gene Hackman can do no wrong, as the guy has been my favorite "modern" actor for years)

Good point, Slayton...TO a point, anyway. In other words, while yes, this early Eastwood effort IS pretty much a Shane ripoff, I'm going to take exception to this one line of yours here: >I guess it's another indication of his lack of originality. You see, I think Eastwood's masterpiece of a Western, namely Unforgiven, is such a departure from ANY other Western ever made, that it invalidates your sentence. Tell me, what other Western ever made presents all the major characters involved in totally fleshed-out detail, both the good AND bad in all of 'em, and as in real life?

LOL So, it appears you saw that earlier post of mine today, eh heuriger?! (...btw, how's the Watchtower printing business lately?...oh wait, THAT'S right...never mind)

Wait! Twinkeee got one RIGHT???!!! "What a revoltin' development dis is!" (...sorry Twink...just couldn't resist doin' my William Bendix impression here after that answer o' yours there, THAT'S all!)

Actually James, the term "British"(especially during Deborah's time on earth and before the fairly recent occurrence of "Limited Scottish Independence") would apply to Ms. Kerr, as the term means those who are native of the British Isles, which of course still includes Scotland. And so, yeah, while MAYBE it would of..ahem..would HAVE been more precise for me to specify that gorgeous and classy babe as "Scottish", I still was not wrong in calling her "British" Now, IF I would of..ahem..would HAVE called her "ENGLISH", then THAT would have been TOTALLY incorrect on my part, dude! (...btw, I sure hope you've finally mastered the phrases of "Would HAVE" and "Should HAVE, instead of the incorrect "Would OF" and Should OF", 'cause I'm really gettin' tired of kidding you about this, ol' buddy!!!) LOL

Btw, I don't believe I've yet mentioned with whom I'd like to have this imaginary romantic evening. Deborah Kerr (...we're talkin' real class here, ya see...yep, some o' them there British babes have real class, ya know...just like them there British motorsickles!)

You're welcome, Eugenia. Ya see? You meet the nicest people of a Triumph Motorcycle! (...okay, so I stole that line from the old Honda Motorcycle ads...so sue me!!!) LOL

And WHO can forget his wonderful TV program that spotlighted the life of ordinary everyday people?! (...this ain't it, but is a "reasonable facsimile" of it...and maybe one of the funniest spoofs ever broadcast)

Yeah, well, at LEAST the dude rides the right brand of motorcycle in that flick anyway, Eugenia!!!

Well THAT'S because his service was so subpar during the British Club's meeting! (...yeah, I noticed him...I mean, how in the world could anyone NOT notice him, ESPECIALLY once he turns in profile!!!)