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Yep, you're correct Fred. The term has also come to be a code word for "small town America" too, and maybe not just those towns and cities not near one of the coasts. (...and which I suppose then begs the question: At a present population of about half a million, where does this leave FRESNO?) LOL

Yeah, well...EXCEPT for Fresno! EVERYONE knows THAT PLACE is a dump!!! (...juuuuuust kiddin', any Fresnonians out there...JUUUUUUST kiddin')

Thanks for the clarifications below, Rich. Yep, there DOES seemed to be some of the plot in "The Robe" which over the years I have come to confuse with "Quo Vadis", huh. (...and yet another reason I'm lookin' forward to watchin' it this weekend)

Okay, one more thing here then... >Dargo wrote -(...yep, I'm surprised at your age you haven't learned that it's a fool's errand to debate the "True Believers" out there, my friend!) >When one writes "True Believers" in quotes, they're commenting on the beliefs of others. And Kyle, remember what I said earlier about how some folks use the ol' "Well that's my belief, and so all further discussion is now over" tactic? Well, the ONLY reason I brought that whole "True Believers" thing into this (and btw, maybe you don't know this, but the term "True Believers" can be correctly applied to not ONLY those holding hard and fast beliefs about religion, but to those who hold hard and fast beliefs about almost ANY topic under the sun...but I digress) was because of the method Jake used to disagree with Sepia's contention that Richard Burton's acting was subpar in this film, and then Jake's whole put-down "you must be a sage" thing and pretty much "end of discussion", and NOT some reasonable and rational counterpoints to Sepia's contention.

Yeah, maybe, but you probably have ALSO noticed two things here, Fred. One being that my online signature around here doesn't say "Dargo in Sedona", AND that the few times I have "bragged" about livin' in Sedona, its always about the scenic beauty of the place and NEVER that the denizen of this place by virtue their choice in residence hold some sort of special place in the eyes of God and thus by association have just that little bit extra hold on the concept of "righteousness". And of which, has always been the impression I've gotten from many of Jake's postings around here. Though once again, I SUPPOSE I could just be misreadin' a little too much into all that, huh...though somethin' tellin' me I'm not. (...and now, what say we get off THIS and get back to talkin' about "The Robe", which as I said I'm lookin' forward to seein' again this weekend after all these years)

>I wish you wouldn't talk like that Dargo. We don't make fun of your beliefs. Eeh! Now Fred, after all this time, I would've thought that you would've picked up on the idea that it's okay with ME if people wanna make fun of ANY of my "beliefs"! It's all boils down to HOW they do it, 'cause I HOPE you would have noticed that I LOVE hearing opinions which differ from mine, UNLESS the person doing it RESORTS to the hackneyed use of the ol' "Well, THAT'S what I believe and so ALL further discussion is now OVER" tactic! And, regarding your bringing up the issue of "Regionalism" here: >You are free to believe whatever you want to believe. This is America, all of it.... East Coast, Midwest, South, Heartland, Southwest, and West Coast. I absolutely AGREE with on this, however PLEASE remember that whenever I tweak the nose of our gentlemen "in the Heartland", it is almost ALWAYS because of HIS continually overt pressing of the point that HIS beloved "Heartland" is somehow more "virtuous" than any OTHER part of this great country of ours. (...so, maybe talk to HIM about THAT, eh?!)

Well, as I recall(though I'm actually lookin' forward to seein' it again, as it's been MANY years since my last viewing of it) it DOES contain a scene with the crucifiction of Jesus, RIGHT?! Yep, I'm pretty sure that that's where the "robe" in the story comes from, RIGHT?! And so, while yes, it's storyline may not be primarily based upon biblical passages, the crux of the plot is based upon the notion that "Christianity can save a soul from eternal damnation", RIGHT?! (...oh, and that a guy who begins to believe in its power can ALSO get the virtuous Christian gal by the end of the story TOO, right?!...YOU know, that whole "Quo Vadis" kinda thing!...but like I said, it's been many o' year since my last viewing of it, and so I COULD be wrong here)

Now Sepia, WHY you ya want to get our friend in "The Heartland" all fired up here again, HUH??? I mean you have to remember that Mr. Burton is in a BIBLICAL-based story here, RIGHT?! And so NATURALLY good ol' Jake is gonna DEFEND the guy!!! (...yep, I'm surprised at your age you haven't learned that it's a fool's errand to debate the "True Believers" out there, my friend!) ****!!!!

>And to the one who's Mom didn't appreciate the movie being made fun of, well, don't we all get our hackles up a bit when our favorites get mocked? Well, "ol' sage" , that was ME who STILL cracks up every time I think of that Easter night at the folks' house, though I have to admit your point was well taken about how we all tend to defend the films we all hold dear. Case in point, the gentleman right down there below me here who seems to take exception with your opinion of Mr. Burton's work in this film. LOL (...though I defy ANYONE to find a false or laughable note in MY favorite all-time films: "The Apartment" and "The Best Years of Our Lives"...go ahead, TRY!)

>Seems to be a lot of backlash against John Williams these days, but how many amazing scores has he written? I couldn't imagine any scene from the STAR WARS trilogy or SUPERMAN or RAIDERS or JAWS or ET or SCHINDLER'S LIST without his music. Don't worry here sewhite, you're not alone with this thought here. I too think John Williams has earned a spot on that list of great film scorers. (...just remember one thing the next time somebody around here bad-mouths the guy...the TCM.com boards are chalked full of folks who think almost ANY film, ANY actor, ANY movie music composer, etc, etc, etc, who appeared on the Hollywood scene AFTER ol' Louis B. Mayer was dead and buried, is by their very definition "inferior" to those which were working during the time ol' Louis' was runnin' the show out there in Tinseltown!...yep, as long as you remember THIS, you'll be JUST fine, amigo!!!) LOL

>."Blasphemers! Idolators! For this you shall drink bitter waters! God has set before you this day his laws of life and good and death and evil. Those who will not live by the law...shall die by the law!!" Oh yeah, NOW I remember that part, FlyBack! Isn't that the scene he drops one of his stone tablets he's carryin' and also says somethin' like: "I have 15....oops...TEN Commandments here that you folks have now forsaken!" ??? (...wait...maybe I'm thinkin' of another movie here, huh...sorry...never mind...again)

OH! Btw FlyBack I forgot to reply to your original post here and your following quite here... >For me the best thing in both films is Jay Robinson as that crazy Caligula. Well, all I can say here is that Jay in that role always kinda reminded me of the ol' "Center Square" on a certain ol' game show. Uh huh, 'cause I always thought Paul Lynne might've been able to do THAT whole kinda Roman Emperor routine TOO! (...not that there would be all THAT much difference in the portrayals, of course, but at least PAUL might have been able to hit the punchlines a little bit better anyway...oh...wait...these flicks weren't comedies, huh!...never mind then!) LOL

Well, to tell ya the truth here, Nora...THIS one looks like your "namesake"(i.e. Miss Loy) who is about to tell that old spooky campfire tale about the "escaped mental patient, "The Hook Man", to a bunch of kids has she shines a flashlight under her face!!!! (...so, am I CLOSE???)

Hmmmm...I MIGHT be able to place the guy here. Would that be a very young Gilbert Roland?

Wow, and here I was thinkin' how much that also looked like Dothery's suggestion of Phillip Terry. (...say, maybe one for the "Lookalikes" thread here, maybe?!)

>Star wrote: overblown soap opera disguised as The Ten Commandments. >Tells me a little bit about you star...live and learn...please keep your distance...Jake in the Heartland LOL!!! Yes Star, at YOUR age you should know that there are just SOME things that a person should NEVER question, and if they ever DO, then SOME folks will find your thoughts "punishable" enough to have you banished from their circle of friends for LIFE!!!! ****!!!!!!! (...btw Star, your opinion of The Robe reminded me of the time about 15 or 20 years ago when my wife and I started snickering while we watched Anne Baxter over-emoting "Oh Moses! Oh Moses" in The Ten Commandments while at my parents' house after Easter dinner...my now dearly departed mother found absolutely NO humor in our "display of irreverence" and continued to "scold" us by saying that SHE though the movie was one of the "greatest ever made"...to which I THEN responded with my impression of Billy Crystal's old comedy routine of impersonating Eddie G. Robinson saying, "M-yeah SEE?! Where's your Moses NOW, see?!...needless to say, good ol' mom found even LESS humor in THAT!!!!!) ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like Gene Nelson to me, slayton.

Yep, you've got him, Rich! The other "Dick Curtis", and not to be confused with the comedian of the same name who is maybe best remembered as the game show host on one the funniest "Dick Van Dyke Show" episodes ever titled "Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth". (...the one where Laura inadvertently spills the beans on nationwide TV that Alan Brady wears a toupee...you remember the line she says when Alan asks her what he's now going to do all those toupees..."Well, there must be some needy bald people!") LOL

Okay Fred, good idea. This actor not only often played the heavy in many a western, but was also featured in a few Three Stooges shorts...one of 'em being their take on the leaders of the Axis Powers.

>I find DEMETRIUS AND THE GLADIATORS to be infinitely superior to the bore-fest that is THE ROBE. AND, we have our first anagram of the day, ladies and gentlemen!!!

>Also, did Susan Hayward smoke? Well, this movie was made in the '50s, RIGHT?! Then I'm thinkin' Susan probably had a pack of Chesterfields and a Zippo(not to be confused with one of the Marx Bros ) sittin' in her purse out there in the desert of Utah TOO! (...'cause they ALL smoked back then, ya know!)

So, are ya waitin' for others to chine in here with their guesses then, Fred?

OH yeah, dp. You might remember this PSA which ran for a while in the mid-'80s....

GOOD! At least I've FIRST gotten past the guy who knows almost EVERY old actor and actress' name around here anyway!!!

Good idea, Fred. And so, how's 'bout THIS guy here?...