Dargo2
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WhyaDuck, while I agree with almost all of your assessment of Carson's great and special talent for hosting "The Tonight Show" and your thoughts about the present lack of a "training ground" for hosts of these sorts of programs, please don't forget that toward the end of his 30 year tenure as host of his show, there was the beginnings of a feeling within the entertainment community and even in the minds of some of the viewing public that Johnny had "overstayed his welcome" and had become a little too "vanilla" and a little, shall we say "passe". In fact, just a few years before his retirement this idea had been presented as fodder for a semi-reoccurring comedy skit on "Saturday Night Live" which featured Dana Carvey performing his Johnny Carson impression and with Phil Hartman as Ed McMahon, and with the comic premise that their show was stuck in the past...to which I remember Carson later making a few offhanded remarks on his own show in reference to that skit and which seemed to sting him a bit.
The only reason I brought this up is that I feel that after this same amount of time(30 years) in which David Letterman has hosted his late night programs on both the NBC and CBS networks, I've never felt this point could be applied to Letterman at all, as I think his more acerbic style has helped keep this whole "vanilla" aspect from ever becoming a factor in his case.
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Well twinkeee, it is a rather sentimental film, what with little Donna Corcoran doing an excellent job of tugging at one's heartstrings throughout, wouldn't ya say?
(...that's pretty much all I meant)
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My very first thought after reading your question here WhyaDuck were these two scenes in the great The Best Years of Our Lives. and which might not have been quite as emotionally moving without Hugo Friedhofer's stirring score being played during them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU0d3DVcKoY
And my second thought was this closing scene in The Apartment, with Adolph Deutsch's score playing while Shirley MacLaine is running down the street and toward's Jack Lemmon's place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKKj6G3RPAg
(...of course this could be 'cause these two films are probably my two favorite movies of all time...yep, I'm just a sentimental ol' slob, I suppose)
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Just wanna say here TB that after I watched Scandal at Scourie last night, I've NEVER felt SO manipulated by a film in all my life!
(...and loved every minute of it)
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Now Mark, wouldn't ya say Tim's performance as the shell-shocked soldier who gets slapped by George C. Scott's Patton in that movie about the egocentric "Old Blood and Guts", makes his turn as FDR seem almost pale by comparison???
(...btw, my dearly departed father who served in Patton's Third Army almost throughout the war, told me as we walked out the theater after viewing this film together back in 1970 and during its initial release that he always thought it was miraculous that the guy made it all the way through the war...and PRIMARILY because not ONLY did the Germans want the guy dead, but that probably HALF the Americans soldiers who served under him wanted to take a shot at the guy TOO...which was probably the first time I had ever heard that old joke)
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Well, yeah, SURE you're say this NOW, Sepia!
(...ESPECIALLY after goin' directly from a shot of Mia to a shot of Cliff here!)
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So Joe, I take it that unlike the rest of the Birthday Boys down there today, try as ya might, you couldn't find a picture of a 30 year old Will Wright, huh?!
(...but then AGAIN of course, I'll bet ol' Will probably pretty much looked like THAT even when he WAS 30 years old TOO, huh?!...yep, kinda like Walter Brennan, huh!)
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Nope Addison, other than the loose association with the Jerry Lester hosted program previously mentioned here, Steve Allen was the first host of the program we've come to know as "The Tonight Show". Parr took over in '57 after Allen left and then for a short interim a number of "guest hosts" which included Ernie Kovacs took over before Parr's 1957-62 run.
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Aah, so finance was referring to the old "Broadway Open House" program...not "Broadway After Dark" btw, allthumbs. Yes, I knew of that show and it "kinda sorta" bein' the precursor to "The Tonight Show".
And yep, I also knew of "Darmar", though being a "car guy", my first "introduction" to her(or at least a reference to her "attributes") was when I was a kid, and people would call the bumper protrusions on cars such as on this '55 Caddy here, "Dagmar bumpers"....
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Hmmmm...sounds like you're tryin' to lead me into a trap here, ol' buddy, 'cause as far I know it was Steve Allen who pretty much began the program as we've come to know it, back in '54.
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Actually, I was thinkin' more that a title such as "Best Food Forward" sounds more like it might be one of those Ealing Studio comedies made in the '50s and starring Alec Guinness as a chef who gets fired("sacked") from his job and thus turns to robbing the Bank of England in order to make ends meet!
(...btw lydecker...sorry about the sidetracking here...ol' chap!)
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Soooo...how 'bout Chuck Norris then???
I mean, there MUST be SOME underlying and subconscious reason why lydecker here spelled it "food" instead of "foot" here, ya know!
(...uh huh...what was that thing Freud said about there being no such thing as accidents?!)
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I've heard it said before that, "The pioneering Hollywood directors such as Wyler, Wellman, Ford and others knew more of 'real life' than of cinema, compared to the film directors who would came later and who would know more of films than of 'real life'."(or something to that effect, anyway)
And so, if this statement IS true to any degree, then this phenomenon we're talking about here makes perfect sense, of course.
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Aaah..."Foot", NOT "food", huh?!
Soooo, I take it there wasn't anyone like THIS guy here yelling out...
"FOOD FIGHT!!!"
...in this one, huh?!
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Karl-Otto Alberty.
I doubt anyone ever played a better Nazi on screen.
From The Great Escape...
"Hands...UP!"
(...and speakin' of that movie...Happy Birthday today, "Cooler King"!!!)
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Hey Fred! These "brick houses" you're talkin' about here. Is it true some of 'em are "mighty mighty", and "built like an Amazon"???
(...sorry, couldn't resist)
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While over the years Letterman MIGHT have toned himself down a bit or as you said "gone Corporate", I think for a 65 y/o guy he's still pretty "edgy" and "hip". And the reason I say this is because even today he doesn't seem afraid to disagree or "get into it" with some of his guests, whereas Leno has always come across as if the last thing he wants to start is a "controversy" of any sort, and which of course usually plays better in "The Heartland", and thus as the linked article in this thread mentioned is where Leno's stronger ratings have always been located.
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I'm not so sure that even that's true, finance. And the reason I say this is because in a world where it seems more and more people know less and less about what happened in the world before they were born, and once again seem to take that "perverse pride" in that fact, AND because both Steverino and Johnny are now so long ago in the past that many out there only know of and remember Leno hosting "The Tonight Show", then I doubt one could even say what you said about the "history of TV" being knowledgeable in general would be correct.
(...and btw, and speaking of "Steverino" here...as you probably know, Letterman's show from the very beginning and all the way back to his NBC days, always had a decidedly "Allen-esque" flavor to it, such as those "Man on the street" segments)
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And Sans, speaking of some of Leno's ongoing segments...
I have to say I won't miss his "Jaywalking" segments all that much...and their constant reminders of how clueless so many Americans are about the subjects of History and Geography.
(...'cause I'm old enough to remember a time in this country when people would've thought twice before signing some release contract to allow a program to broadcast nationwide how utterly ignorant they are, and whereas now it seems so many Americans take some sort of perverse pride in their ignorance)
Edited by: Dargo2 on Mar 24, 2013 10:57 AM
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...yep, and never a very good interviewer either...at least in my estimation anyway.
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How about: "Is that the best you have?!" (or ..."ya got"), which is a line that ya might see spoken in a film while someone is shopping and/or might often see spoken as a sarcastic retort.
(...and speakin' o' which Sepia, I LOVED your sarcastic retort in that courtroom!...BRAVO!!!)
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Uh huh...it's Morgan Brittany.
(...and who Courteney Cox always kinda reminded me of)
NBC planning to replace Jay Leno with Jimmy Fallon
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And Sepia, you could also add Merv Griffin, Dick Cavett and of course Joan Rivers to these attempts by other networks at grabbing some of Carson's ratings.
(...that latter of course which would bitterly sting Carson and create the "feud" between the two which would last until Johnny's death)